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| Milton Roe |
Sat 23rd May 2009, 10:45pm
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QUOTE(RMHED @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 2:44pm)  Yes lucky old David Boothroyd AKA as Wikipedia User Sam Blacketer, User Fys, User Dbiv and User David Boothroyd, was having his privacy protected by his chums. Now if only other marginal BLP's could be so well cared for. When is somebody going to mention on WP that having a BLP up on WP AND using your own name as username, doesn't allow you to use 3 other accounts, at least one of them a sock at the same time? For example: User:Fys doesn't exactly say "Unblocking user:Dbiv (my alternatve account)", now does he? That would be an edit dif comment we'd like to see. As with the Weiss/Mantanmoreland case we're about to see much gaming of the system, carried on under the idea that is was necessary to protect the editor's privacy. And of course this will be used as a weapon against all anti-gamers.  QUOTE(One @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 3:37pm)  QUOTE(RMHED @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 9:44pm)  Yes lucky old David Boothroyd AKA as Wikipedia User Sam Blacketer, User Fys, User Dbiv and User David Boothroyd, was having his privacy protected by his chums. Now if only other marginal BLP's could be so well cared for. They sort of are: BLPs can be deleted if the subjects ask for the dramatic force of the site on them. Meaning what? QUOTE The problem is that they have to raise their profile to do this. It would be better if these were routine. There's an understatement. It would be nice with wikiadmins had to put up with the same BLP crap that everyone does. But of course they don't. If they later become admins, then they game the system and maybe get a BLP deleted without anybody making the connection. Or not. If they get outed at WR first, well, then they get what they want, but not in the way they wanted it.
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| MBisanz |
Sat 23rd May 2009, 11:14pm
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 11:45pm)  For example: User:Fys doesn't exactly say "Unblocking user:Dbiv (my alternatve account)", now does he? That would be an edit dif comment we'd like to see.
Milton, you missed both Charlotte's comment above and mine at WT:AC/N. Dbiv was renamed to Fys. But MediaWiki only renamed the first half of the block log (it was an error that was just fixed in 2009. So at the time, it read Dbiv unblocked User:Dbiv, but when it was renamed, it became Fys unblocked User:Dbiv. At the time it would have been (and at the related RFAR was) crystal clear what had occurred.
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| Milton Roe |
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QUOTE(MBisanz @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 4:14pm)  QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 11:45pm)  For example: User:Fys doesn't exactly say "Unblocking user:Dbiv (my alternatve account)", now does he? That would be an edit dif comment we'd like to see.
Milton, you missed both Charlotte's comment above and mine at WT:AC/N. Dbiv was renamed to Fys. But MediaWiki only renamed the first half of the block log (it was an error that was just fixed in 2009. So at the time, it read Dbiv unblocked User:Dbiv, but when it was renamed, it became Fys unblocked User:Dbiv. At the time it would have been (and at the related RFAR was) crystal clear what had occurred. Okay, I have to retract the sock comment (although having this coverred up by software screwups later is way convenient). I see that the "I'm not supposed to do this" relates to the unblocking himself. His reasoning is all-the-more precious: "Yes, I know I am not supposed to do this. Justification 1: Block was wrongly applied. Justification 2: I have a major edit which I am not going to lose come what may. WP:IAR applies." Hey, I want WP:IAR to apply to me! We've got your basic campaign bio-massager for Brit labour MPs, who sticks his own bio up on Wikipedia, then spends all his time writting canned political bios and posting them on WP.  With a weeee bit more attension to Labourites. Okay, so this is working, until he starts to rise in the ranks. He tries to get his own BLP deleted and is no more successful than anybody else usually is at this (extracting your own BLP off WP is ordinarily much like extracting teeth). He dares not make a stink about it, but progresses through a series of alternatve names. Soon, due to software screwups, there's hardly any trace of the old him at all. And now, he's way up to arbitrator! Who knows how long before he'll be arbitrating cases involving politicians' BLPs in the UK. But, so sorry, he got outted on WR (you couldn't do that on WP, no matter how corrupt it was) and his real name and BLP name is known. So then (fancy that) Jehochman immediately NOW deletes his BLP for being non-notable.  Nobody had noticed that it was non-notable before, even during its first RfD.  And yes, there was some overly private information in it, perhaps. All of it added by the subject. Who was now in a position of not being able to remove it, without notice. WP: you're totally corrupt. You're full of people who cannot stand your own rules to apply to themselves. And full of other people who support this state. WP, you make me puke. 
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| Milton Roe |
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QUOTE(WikiWatch @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 10:05pm)  QUOTE(Alex @ Sun 24th May 2009, 10:09am)  QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 24th May 2009, 1:04am)  WP, you make me puke.  If that's the case, why do you spend so much of your time on this forum talking about it? If something made me "puke" I would certainly keep away from it - although that may be difficult with Wikipedia, I'd at least stop yakking about it on webforums. Roe's drama queen histrionics does get tiring  Feel free not to read. The difference (and it's not small one) is that I don't write to game any system or gain any power.  So stick it, Alex.
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tarantino Sam Blacketer Wed 12th November 2008, 3:31am One No, it seems that verification was not formalized ... Wed 12th November 2008, 3:43am tarantino
I dunno. I'm just tired of outing.
How is t... Wed 12th November 2008, 4:23am  Knight I don't think that http://meta.wikimedia.org/w... Wed 12th November 2008, 4:37am   One
I don't think that [url=http://meta.wikimedia... Wed 12th November 2008, 4:57am   Proabivouac
Perhaps someone should ask Sam on his talkpage to... Thu 13th November 2008, 2:46am    Moulton The record suggests that trusting the Foundation t... Thu 13th November 2008, 3:56am Proabivouac
Incidentally, is this really important? I don... Thu 13th November 2008, 2:35am thekohser
I dunno. I'm just tired of outing.
I'm ... Fri 22nd May 2009, 1:11am  Kato
[quote name='One' post='141163' date='Tue 11th No... Fri 22nd May 2009, 1:20am   One
I'd be more annoyed that a prominent supporte... Fri 22nd May 2009, 2:16am    Lar
[quote name='Kato' post='174269' date='Fri 22nd M... Fri 22nd May 2009, 4:04pm     zvook
Heh. Of course due to aggressive cultural imperi... Fri 22nd May 2009, 4:34pm Random832 Incidentally, is this really important?
His name ... Fri 22nd May 2009, 4:54pm  Shalom Tarantino: It must have taken you at least an hour... Fri 22nd May 2009, 5:51pm Eva Destruction FWIW, English phone books aren't a reliable so... Wed 12th November 2008, 3:51am Alex It does seem a little strange that in December 200... Wed 12th November 2008, 11:18am tarantino
And Sam Blacketer almost certainly is a pseudonym... Thu 13th November 2008, 2:20am  tarantino
And Sam Blacketer almost certainly is a pseudony... Thu 21st May 2009, 11:04pm   Alex
I revisited this a few days ago, and I've fig... Thu 21st May 2009, 11:22pm   Milton Roe
I revisited this a few days ago, and I've fi... Fri 22nd May 2009, 12:13am   Kato
[quote name='tarantino' post='141270' date='Thu 1... Mon 25th May 2009, 6:07pm    Milton Roe So Sam Blacketer was that Dbiv guy from a few year... Mon 25th May 2009, 6:53pm   zvook
I revisited this a few days ago, and I've fi... Mon 25th May 2009, 6:29pm    tarantino
How did you link Fys with Sam Blacketer? Was it j... Mon 25th May 2009, 7:27pm     CharlotteWebb
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg231/sonitnar... Mon 25th May 2009, 7:50pm      Son of a Yeti
Not sure I've seen anyone with such a regular... Mon 25th May 2009, 8:11pm      One
[quote name='tarantino' post='174771' date='Mon 2... Mon 25th May 2009, 9:01pm      tarantino
This looks interesting. What software do you use ... Mon 25th May 2009, 9:09pm       One
Looks like somebody's got a little bit too m... Mon 25th May 2009, 10:11pm     zvook
Something I found on WP. I don't want to say... Mon 25th May 2009, 8:01pm     RMHED
[quote name='zvook' post='174766' date='Mon 25th ... Mon 25th May 2009, 8:03pm      The Joy
[quote name='zvook' post='174766' date='Mon 25th... Mon 25th May 2009, 8:12pm       RMHED
[quote name='RMHED' post='174776' date='Mon 25th ... Mon 25th May 2009, 8:23pm        UseOnceAndDestroy Yes it is "just a website", albeit one t... Mon 25th May 2009, 8:53pm         RMHED
Yes it is "just a website", albeit one ... Mon 25th May 2009, 9:12pm      LessHorrid vanU
[quote name='zvook' post='174766' date='Mon 25th... Mon 25th May 2009, 8:30pm       RMHED
[quote name='tarantino' post='174771' date='Mon ... Mon 25th May 2009, 8:42pm  CharlotteWebb
So we have a UK Wikipedian, with what can be cons... Sat 23rd May 2009, 9:53am   CharlotteWebb
[quote name='tarantino' post='141270' date='Thu 1... Sat 23rd May 2009, 6:26pm    RMHED
[quote name='tarantino' post='141270' date='Thu ... Sat 23rd May 2009, 6:43pm    CharlotteWebb Wonder if anyone is concerned that Sam, er... Dave... Sat 23rd May 2009, 6:45pm The Joy Should we call a spade a spade? :grin:
Or am I ... Fri 22nd May 2009, 12:17am tarantino
Should we call a spade a spade? :grin:
Or am I... Fri 22nd May 2009, 12:33am Alex He's now identified. Not that that means much ... Fri 22nd May 2009, 8:25pm the fieryangel
He's now identified. Not that that means much... Fri 22nd May 2009, 8:40pm trenton it's kinda funny looking at that page. What ki... Fri 22nd May 2009, 8:33pm CrazyGameOfPoker
it's kinda funny looking at that page. What k... Fri 22nd May 2009, 9:03pm  Random832 Nearly impossible given that the data the guy keep... Sat 23rd May 2009, 5:39am  trenton
[quote name='trenton' post='174414' date='Fri 22n... Sat 23rd May 2009, 7:10am MZMcBride
Are there any of you Wikipedians out there who ha... Fri 22nd May 2009, 9:26pm CrazyGameOfPoker
[quote name='tarantino' post='141162' date='Tue 1... Fri 22nd May 2009, 10:00pm  MZMcBride
[quote name='tarantino' post='141162' date='Tue ... Fri 22nd May 2009, 10:05pm tarantino Resignation
Sat 23rd May 2009, 6:19pm RMHED Is this Sam? Sat 23rd May 2009, 7:13pm zvook
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Boothroyd... Sat 23rd May 2009, 7:29pm  CharlotteWebb
Entries like this become confusing when a user is... Sat 23rd May 2009, 8:06pm  Somey Seems to be.
Okay, so... Someone, possibly Mr. Boo... Sat 23rd May 2009, 8:35pm   MBisanz
...do we know if he still wants the BLP article d... Sat 23rd May 2009, 8:43pm    RMHED
[quote name='Somey' post='174551' date='Sat 23rd ... Sat 23rd May 2009, 8:51pm  UseOnceAndDestroy http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...... Sat 23rd May 2009, 9:26pm   MBisanz
[quote name='zvook' post='174545' date='Sat 23rd ... Sat 23rd May 2009, 9:28pm    zvook
[quote name='zvook' post='174545' date='Sat 23rd... Sat 23rd May 2009, 10:37pm   CharlotteWebb
[quote name='zvook' post='174545' date='Sat 23rd ... Sat 23rd May 2009, 9:28pm cyofee Good work, tarantino.
There's an Indian sayin... Sat 23rd May 2009, 8:36pm One
Yes lucky old David Boothroyd AKA as Wikipedia Us... Sat 23rd May 2009, 10:37pm     Milton Roe
WP, you make me puke. :sick: :yak:
If that... Sun 24th May 2009, 12:32am EricBarbour Yes lucky old David Boothroyd AKA as Wikipedia Use... Sun 24th May 2009, 9:50am tarantino IIRC Dominic edited the bio around the same time t... Sat 23rd May 2009, 10:47pm MBisanz
IIRC Dominic edited the bio around the same time ... Sat 23rd May 2009, 11:10pm Alex Wow... is all I can say. He sure fooled us. Thankf... Sat 23rd May 2009, 11:13pm Kevin
Wow... is all I can say. He sure fooled us. Thank... Sat 23rd May 2009, 11:25pm  Alex
Wow... is all I can say. He sure fooled us. Than... Sat 23rd May 2009, 11:30pm thekohser
Wow... is all I can say. He sure fooled us. Thank... Sun 24th May 2009, 4:00am trenton Ha. Like this kangaroo court needed any more credi... Sat 23rd May 2009, 11:20pm The Adversary Back to "Sam_Blacketer":
With hindsight ... Sun 24th May 2009, 1:01am Malleus
Back to "Sam_Blacketer":
With hindsight... Sun 24th May 2009, 2:05am  Ahypori
[quote name='The Adversary' post='174596' date='S... Sun 24th May 2009, 2:24am   Malleus
Sam voted against the desysopping of Aitias, henc... Sun 24th May 2009, 3:09am    Milton Roe
Sam voted against the desysopping of Aitias, hen... Sun 24th May 2009, 3:43am Viridae Hmmm it seems i blocked the guy way back in feb 20... Sun 24th May 2009, 2:34am thekohser Last night, I sent the following to the WikiEN-l m... Sun 24th May 2009, 12:29pm Milton Roe
Don't worry, I sent an even more inflammatory... Mon 25th May 2009, 8:50am LessHorrid vanU
Last night, I sent the following to the WikiEN-l ... Mon 25th May 2009, 6:56pm  Milton Roe
That is what I would do, anyway. I think the door... Mon 25th May 2009, 7:22pm georgeieboy This is what wikipedia is all about. Falsehood and... Sun 24th May 2009, 10:25pm sbrown I do support Greg whos been treated very badly by ... Mon 25th May 2009, 6:49am thekohser Yahoo! Answers joins the censorship squad:
Mon 25th May 2009, 2:33pm GlassBeadGame It never ceases to amaze me the rancor Wikipedian ... Mon 25th May 2009, 2:50pm Jon Awbrey
It never ceases to amaze me the rancor Wikipedian... Mon 25th May 2009, 3:10pm  GlassBeadGame
[quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='174754' date='M... Mon 25th May 2009, 3:17pm Somey If that's the case, why do you spend so much o... Mon 25th May 2009, 6:24pm Daniel Brandt Help me out here. Is Dbiv/Boothroyd, who has been ... Tue 26th May 2009, 2:49am
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