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[Somey]

If that's the case, why do you spend so much of your time on this forum talking about it? If something made me "puke" I would certainly keep away from it - although that may be difficult with Wikipedia, I'd at least stop yakking about it on webforums.

How many times do we have to answer this question, in painful, excruciating detail, before you stop asking it?

Can Staff please confirm that if "Sam" has an account here hes been blocked?

Personally, I don't believe he has an account here... definitely not under any of the Wikipedia names he's used, at least, though of course he probably would have come up with something completely different. And of course, I don't have access to Wikipedia CheckUser data to confirm something like that. (Gee, I wonder why not...)

Still, I doubt he would have registered here at all - I'm sure it's not easy to keep track of all those identities concurrently on multiple sites.

[zvook]

I revisited this a few days ago, and I've figured out who Sam is. If Jimmy and the voters had known what his older account was, he probably wouldn't be an arb today.

You played a great round of Wikipedia this time, Sam.

How did you link Fys with Sam Blacketer? Was it just by looking at likely candidates in topic areas and timing, and following the various rabbitholes thereof? It's been noted that the accounts were deliberately overlapped to make this difficult to near-impossible.

[Milton Roe]

So Sam Blacketer was that Dbiv guy from a few years ago?

Dbiv was bad news. He played Wikipedia like a board game, providing one of the worst examples of cronyism. He was completely unethical, and I hope he is now sick as a parrot.

Case closed.

Yet another example of why WP's governance is just a mess.

And let us not fail to notice the hypocrisy of the fact that when we found out what Boothroyd/Blacketer did for a living, it was (according to his now-suddenly deleted BLP) pretty much what he accused Greg of doing, above, while "Blacketer." Providing potted bios of UK politicians for money. Which, in his case, he duly eventually uploaded to Wikipedia. He's done hundreds of them. SO--- this was not all work done compleley altruistically and as a hobby.

Jimbo, you've been had, again, by somebody you protected and your people promoted. And I see you're now blocking Kohs from pointing out in most public fora what a dupe you've been AGAIN. Which means that NOW you really ARE effectively protecting one guy who used Wikipedia for a business-extension, at the expense of another who did it honestly. If you didn't before, you certainly are NOW. No fair hiding under the banner of ignorance NOW.

Windily and Unconvincingly Yrs,

Milton Roe

[LessHorrid vanU]

Last night, I sent the following to the WikiEN-l mailing list:

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On Nov 24, 2007 3:37 PM, Christiano Moreschi <moreschiwikiman at hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:

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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Core_Contest



On Sat Nov 24 16:00:03 UTC 2007 Sam Blacketer
sam.blacketer at googlemail.com commented:


I hope Greg Kohs is as sick as a parrot.

--
Sam Blacketer
London E15

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I hope you'll all join me in saying that I hope "Sam Blacketer" is as sick as a parrot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...001#Resignation

It took a while, but once again, we can all see that those who cast stones at me are very often guilty of much worse than I've ever done on Wikipedia. Sick as a parrot, indeed.

--
Gregory Kohs

This was the response I received this morning:

Your request to the WikiEN-l mailing list

Posting of your message titled "Re: Get paid to edit ethically"

has been rejected by the list moderator. The moderator gave the
following reason for rejecting your request:

"Sorry Greg, can't see a reason to let this flame war continue. --
Steve B."

Any questions or comments should be directed to the list administrator
at:

wikien-l-owner@lists.wikimedia.org

I can't say that I'm surprised, or that I blame the list moderators. My snappy "told you so" was probably too powerful and would have led to the complete collapse of the Wikipedia system. So, for survival itself, they had to reject it.

Don't worry, I sent an even more inflammatory retort to Jimmy Wales, Mike Godwin (both of whom said, "Sorry, but there's nothing we can do" when I complained that "Blacketer" was using their tax-advantaged mailing list to wish ill on me and call my business and my clients unethical), David Gerard (to teach me how to skull dance), and "Sam Blacketer" himself. They'll get the message, one way or another. I don't need their stinking WikiEN-l list to do it. In fact, rejecting the post just makes them look even more corrupt.

Greg

C'mon, Greg. If they were really going to stop you from trying to contact them regarding your mutual history they would have responded with,

"Thank you for your esteemed custom. The "Severe Shirley" latex bondage-nurses uniform will be dispatched promptly, with an invoice that is payable within 14 days of this acknowledgment."

To ensure your retreat, they would then send a large, ripped, empty box to your home address (which they know) together with said promised invoice still firmly attached.

That is what I would do, anyway. I think the doors of communication are still open between you and WP.

[Milton Roe]

That is what I would do, anyway. I think the doors of communication are still open between you and WP.

You think so? Since "Blacketer" turns out to have been doing on WP what he did for money in real life, which was bios of UK politicos, I'm waiting for Jimbo to tell me I'm "windy and unconvincing" when I note that he's been HAD again by the gamer, while at the same time banning the honest man Kohs.

Could you let him know I'm waiting for him to come here and have it out with me, on neutral ground, where neither of us has the advantage? Apparently he has his fingers stuck in his ears when it comes to Kohs. The wonderful irony being that his last pronouncement on the issue happened just as he got pwned again by one of this gamers. Something he still is not admitting, therefore pwning him yet again. The man can't win.

[tarantino]

How did you link Fys with Sam Blacketer? Was it just by looking at likely candidates in topic areas and timing, and following the various rabbitholes thereof? It's been noted that the accounts were deliberately overlapped to make this difficult to near-impossible.

Something I found on WP. I don't want to say exactly what because people may avoid doing it in the future. Edits times and interests were then compared to confirm it.

Here's a chart of the overlapping edit histories. Sam is blue and Fys is red.

[CharlotteWebb]

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg231/sonitnarat/sam.png

This looks interesting. What software do you use to construct this chart?

Not sure I've seen anyone with such a regular sleep pattern.

This post has been edited by CharlotteWebb: Mon 25th May 2009, 7:53pm

[zvook]

Something I found on WP. I don't want to say exactly what because people may avoid doing it in the future. Edits times and interests were then compared to confirm it.

Here's a chart of the overlapping edit histories. Sam is blue and Fys is red.

Understood, and all quite interesting. Had I only demonstrated similar skills in the past, I could now salute you as an Irish monk.

[RMHED]

How did you link Fys with Sam Blacketer? Was it just by looking at likely candidates in topic areas and timing, and following the various rabbitholes thereof? It's been noted that the accounts were deliberately overlapped to make this difficult to near-impossible.

Something I found on WP. I don't want to say exactly what because people may avoid doing it in the future. Edits times and interests were then compared to confirm it.

Here's a chart of the overlapping edit histories. Sam is blue and Fys is red.

Looks like somebody's got a little bit too much time on their hands. It really isn't important you know, it's just a sodding website.

[Son of a Yeti]

Not sure I've seen anyone with such a regular sleep pattern.

And long holidays. Which, by the way, were the only time when he did not hack WP for 16 hours a day

[The Joy]

How did you link Fys with Sam Blacketer? Was it just by looking at likely candidates in topic areas and timing, and following the various rabbitholes thereof? It's been noted that the accounts were deliberately overlapped to make this difficult to near-impossible.

Something I found on WP. I don't want to say exactly what because people may avoid doing it in the future. Edits times and interests were then compared to confirm it.

Here's a chart of the overlapping edit histories. Sam is blue and Fys is red.

Looks like somebody's got a little bit too much time on their hands. It really isn't important you know, it's just a sodding website.

No, it is not "just a website." How many times do we have to say it here?

[RMHED]

How did you link Fys with Sam Blacketer? Was it just by looking at likely candidates in topic areas and timing, and following the various rabbitholes thereof? It's been noted that the accounts were deliberately overlapped to make this difficult to near-impossible.

Something I found on WP. I don't want to say exactly what because people may avoid doing it in the future. Edits times and interests were then compared to confirm it.

Here's a chart of the overlapping edit histories. Sam is blue and Fys is red.

Looks like somebody's got a little bit too much time on their hands. It really isn't important you know, it's just a sodding website.

No, it is not "just a website." How many times do we have to say it here?

Yes it is "just a website", albeit one that punches way above its financial weight. Wikipedia isn't important, at best it's useful, at worst it's libellous. If you or others want to imbue it with power it doesn't have, then that's up to you.

[LessHorrid vanU]

How did you link Fys with Sam Blacketer? Was it just by looking at likely candidates in topic areas and timing, and following the various rabbitholes thereof? It's been noted that the accounts were deliberately overlapped to make this difficult to near-impossible.

Something I found on WP. I don't want to say exactly what because people may avoid doing it in the future. Edits times and interests were then compared to confirm it.

Here's a chart of the overlapping edit histories. Sam is blue and Fys is red.

Looks like somebody's got a little bit too much time on their hands. It really isn't important you know, it's just a sodding website.

Um, if Greg is to believed then it wasn't a case of too much time on their hands - but what they were paid to be doing. If they were working freelance on a results basis then they had no reason to divide the day between work and play, and especially if they got themselves into an area of responsibility on the site. Is there a chance of a article/non-article breakdown within the above?

[RMHED]

How did you link Fys with Sam Blacketer? Was it just by looking at likely candidates in topic areas and timing, and following the various rabbitholes thereof? It's been noted that the accounts were deliberately overlapped to make this difficult to near-impossible.

Something I found on WP. I don't want to say exactly what because people may avoid doing it in the future. Edits times and interests were then compared to confirm it.

Here's a chart of the overlapping edit histories. Sam is blue and Fys is red.

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg231/sonitnarat/sam.png

Looks like somebody's got a little bit too much time on their hands. It really isn't important you know, it's just a sodding website.

Um, if Greg is to believed then it wasn't a case of too much time on their hands - but what they were paid to be doing. If they were working freelance on a results basis then they had no reason to divide the day between work and play, and especially if they got themselves into an area of responsibility on the site. Is there a chance of a article/non-article breakdown within the above?

Sam may or may not have too much time on his hands, my comment was directed at Tarantino. It really isn't that important you know LHvU, get a grip. Honestly, who but the obsessives really cares what Sammy boy was doing, he's been rumbled.

[UseOnceAndDestroy]

Yes it is "just a website", albeit one that punches way above its financial weight. Wikipedia isn't important, at best it's useful, at worst it's libellous.

Wikipedia holds itself out to be an encyclopedia and so invites its audience to trust it (despite the well hidden "ignore us, we're crap" disclaimer). It's an attempt to enclose, own and control knowledge on a substantial scale, and the efforts of its unpaid labourers to downplay the implications of that enterprise don't make it any less poisonous.

The "just a website" ploy - which seems to get pulled out by every other wikipediot that blows through here - is as disingenuous as the "just a mop" dismissal of adminship.

[One]

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg231/sonitnarat/sam.png

This looks interesting. What software do you use to construct this chart?

Not sure I've seen anyone with such a regular sleep pattern.

I have. Baxter was pretty clockwork, for example. But half of Wikipedians have atrocious sleeping patterns--due to not having jobs, no doubt. Mine are awful.

I just use Excel.

[tarantino]

This looks interesting. What software do you use to construct this chart?

Not sure I've seen anyone with such a regular sleep pattern.

It's a scatter plot from a spreadsheet.

Looks like somebody's got a little bit too much time on their hands. It really isn't important you know, it's just a sodding website.

It really doesn't take that much time, maybe a half hour or so. Cool Hand Luke could confirm that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:John254_...ten_Eriksen.png

Is there a chance of a article/non-article breakdown within the above?

It would be easy to do, but would take a little longer.

[RMHED]

Yes it is "just a website", albeit one that punches way above its financial weight. Wikipedia isn't important, at best it's useful, at worst it's libellous.

Wikipedia holds itself out to be an encyclopedia and so invites its audience to trust it (despite the well hidden "ignore us, we're crap" disclaimer). It's an attempt to enclose, own and control knowledge on a substantial scale, and the efforts of its unpaid labourers to downplay the implications of that enterprise don't make it any less poisonous.

The "just a website" ploy - which seems to get pulled out by every other wikipediot that blows through here - is as disingenuous as the "just a mop" dismissal of adminship.

If any one is foolish enough to take a Wikipedia article at face value then they probably deserve a bloody good slap.

It really is "just a website", in the same way that Google or Amazon are just websites. Now Google and Amazon being powerful commercial concerns will likely survive for a time, Wikipedia on the other hand is exceedingly unlikely to be around for very long, it has no financial clout.

The fact that so many obsess about Wikipedia is probably more worrying than anything actually contained on Wikipedia.

[One]

Looks like somebody's got a little bit too much time on their hands. It really isn't important you know, it's just a sodding website.

It really doesn't take that much time, maybe a half hour or so. Cool Hand Luke could confirm that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:John254_...ten_Eriksen.png

After you have the settings for the plot worked up, it takes less time than that to make subsequent plots; just a matter of cutting and pasting.

[Daniel Brandt]

Help me out here. Is Dbiv/Boothroyd, who has been on an earlier version of hivemind for years, definitely one and the same as Sam Blacketer, who resigned this month from the EAC (evil arbitration committee)? And he's also aka "Fys"? If so, then his mugshot belongs on the main hivemind page as a former arbitrator, and I'll be happy to add him there.