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Gerard blocks Giano for sockpuppetry, invokes good/bad hand accounts policy - wrongly |
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| Doc glasgow |
Wed 19th November 2008, 9:33am
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David Gerard was obviously trolling, but he's also in the clear in terms of abuse.
Q1:Did he abuse checkuser?
A: He CU'd a publicly undisclosed sock that was running for arbcom. Whilst his motives are strongly smelly here, there's no way he'd be sectioned sanctioned for that. He had "probably cause". The socking was obvious, and technically there's no way to dispute the contention Giano was either gaming or being disruptive. (I don't actually think he doing either - but Gerard's contention here is easily defensible enough to get him off the hook).
Q2: Did he breach the privacy policy?
A: No. No IP or personal information was disclosed. Linking to pseudonym accounts breaches nothing.
Q3: Did he misuse his admin blocking powers?
A:Probably the easiest charge to sustain, but also the least serious. Blocking was unnecessary, he could have removed the arbcom candidature with "checkuser confirms undeclared sock of established user". He could have e-mailed Giano and asked him to declare the sock (however, Giano had already blown off Thatcher's communique - so that was maybe pointless). Indef blocking a disruptive sock is standard policy, and although I don't see too much disruption the case can be made. So we are left with the 24 hour block of Giano - pointless really, and obviously for dramatic effect - but we've been here before.
Verdict: no sanctionable abuse, but he does get a "troll of the year" nomination. However the competition for the actual award will be tough.
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Wed 19th November 2008, 9:54am
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QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Wed 19th November 2008, 9:33am)  David Gerard was obviously trolling, but he's also in the clear in terms of abuse.
Q1:Did he abuse checkuser?
A: He CU'd a publicly undisclosed sock that was running for arbcom. Whilst his motives are strongly smelly here, there's no way he'd be sectioned sanctioned for that. He had "probably cause". The socking was obvious, and technically there's no way to dispute the contention Giano was either gaming or being disruptive. (I don't actually think he doing either - but Gerard's contention here is easily defensible enough to get him off the hook).
Q2: Did he breach the privacy policy?
A: No. No IP or personal information was disclosed. Linking to pseudonym accounts breaches nothing.
Q3: Did he misuse his admin blocking powers?
A:Probably the easiest charge to sustain, but also the least serious. Blocking was unnecessary, he could have removed the arbcom candidature with "checkuser confirms undeclared sock of established user". He could have e-mailed Giano and asked him to declare the sock (however, Giano had already blown off Thatcher's communique - so that was maybe pointless). Indef blocking a disruptive sock is standard policy, and although I don't see too much disruption the case can be made. So we are left with the 24 hour block of Giano - pointless really, and obviously for dramatic effect - but we've been here before.
Verdict: no sanctionable abuse, but he does get a "troll of the year" nomination. However the competition for the actual award will be tough.
I just don't like the thought of David Gerard knowing my name and address - he might want an invitation to tea or something. What would my wife think, if DG turned up on the doorstep? Saying: "Hello, I'm David a friend of Giano's?" All very worrying. Giano
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privatemusings Gerard blocks Giano for sockpuppetry Tue 18th November 2008, 10:25pm Doc glasgow
hee hee
impressively dumb!
(sorry DG, you... Tue 18th November 2008, 10:31pm LessHorrid vanU David Gerard has blocked Giano for operating the C... Tue 18th November 2008, 10:37pm Alex This thread is a duplicate. Should be merged.
Mod... Tue 18th November 2008, 10:47pm Alex Friday's opinion:
Tue 18th November 2008, 10:51pm Son of a Yeti
Friday's opinion:
It's getting better... Tue 18th November 2008, 11:00pm  Milton Roe
Friday's opinion:
It's getting bette... Tue 18th November 2008, 11:37pm sarcasticidealist Giano's handling this with uncharacteristic go... Tue 18th November 2008, 11:07pm Alex Now a request for arbitration is opened. Phil Sand... Tue 18th November 2008, 11:30pm Basil Phil Sandifer demonstrating that he hasn't los... Tue 18th November 2008, 11:35pm CrazyGameOfPoker ====Statement by [[User:Alex Bakharev|Alex Bakhare... Wed 19th November 2008, 1:01am Kato I might as well export a post I made to another th... Wed 19th November 2008, 1:15am EricBarbour
[b]All that blather about [i]those nasty arbcom m... Wed 19th November 2008, 5:36am The Joy I think it if this is accepted, it'll just be ... Wed 19th November 2008, 2:11am SirFozzie I have a sneaky suspicion that all folks who run f... Wed 19th November 2008, 2:15am The Wales Hunter
I have a sneaky suspicion that all folks who run ... Wed 19th November 2008, 2:27am SirFozzie That verification is REAL LIFE information (your n... Wed 19th November 2008, 2:28am The Wales Hunter Fair point. Though I wouldn't have any problem... Wed 19th November 2008, 2:37am Anonymous editor http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6817/facepalmmu... Wed 19th November 2008, 4:32am everyking None of these joke account sockpuppets should be a... Wed 19th November 2008, 5:57am Giano
None of these joke account sockpuppets should be ... Wed 19th November 2008, 9:27am  Cla68
None of these joke account sockpuppets should be... Thu 20th November 2008, 6:08am   Herschelkrustofsky
I usually just go to Jimbo's talk page and as... Sat 22nd November 2008, 9:56pm    Pumpkin Muffins ..and behold! This debate is now [url=http://e... Sun 23rd November 2008, 3:31am     The Joy
..and behold! This debate is now [url=http://... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:28am      Lar
I don't believe I've ever witnessed an on... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:44am       The Joy
I don't believe I've ever witnessed an o... Sun 23rd November 2008, 6:08am        Giggy
I'm not trying to gloat, Lar, and I can tell ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 7:28am         Deacon This recent block, done in the middle of a GMT nig... Sun 23rd November 2008, 7:45am       GlassBeadGame
I don't believe I've ever witnessed an o... Sun 23rd November 2008, 3:52pm     everyking
..and behold! This debate is now [url=http://... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:47am    Milton Roe
[quote name='Cla68' post='142155' date='Wed 19th ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 3:44am     Kato Probably Giano should have said that all the goth ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 4:57am      Milton Roe
[quote name='Milton Roe' post='142577' date='Sun ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 7:03pm Peter Damian I can't be bothered to comment. It's all ... Wed 19th November 2008, 9:09am maggot3 Already a thread about it, just for your informati... Wed 19th November 2008, 9:13am Peter Damian
Already a thread about it, just for your informat... Wed 19th November 2008, 9:17am  Doc glasgow
I just don't like the thought of David Gerar... Wed 19th November 2008, 1:01pm  Alex
I just don't like the thought of David Gerard... Wed 19th November 2008, 1:42pm Piperdown There's just something wrong with any organisa... Fri 21st November 2008, 1:29am Kato On an unrelated note, I generally loathe historica... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:44am Peter Damian Lovely comment on Giano talk page:
Oh yes and A... Sun 23rd November 2008, 8:59am Moulton [quote name='The Joy' post='142585' date='Sun 23rd... Sun 23rd November 2008, 10:49am Herschelkrustofsky
Oh yes and Adler knows his stuff. Mr. Adler, if ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 3:07pm SirFozzie and SlimVirgin has unblocked.
(Block log); 04:12 ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:18am Cla68
and SlimVirgin has unblocked.
(Block log); 04:12... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:29am  Cedric
That's a power play if I've ever seen one... Sun 23rd November 2008, 10:34am  Proabivouac
and SlimVirgin has unblocked.
(Block log); 04:12 ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 10:44am Deacon
and SlimVirgin has unblocked.
Was wondering wh... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:29am SirFozzie .. No. I don't agree with the block, but I wou... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:33am Deacon
.. No. I don't agree with the block, but I wo... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:48am Peter Damian I expect I will be accused of harrassing FT2 again... Sun 23rd November 2008, 3:45pm Herschelkrustofsky
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I may be missing something, but can anyone explai... Sun 23rd November 2008, 4:31pm  Deacon Giano is seen as, and to a large extent is, the le... Sun 23rd November 2008, 4:37pm   wikiwhistle
Giano is seen as, and to a large extent is, the l... Sun 23rd November 2008, 4:40pm   Herschelkrustofsky
Giano is seen as, and to a large extent is, the l... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:46pm    Peter Damian
[quote name='Deacon' post='142623' date='Sun 23rd... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:51pm  Obesity
That remark makes me think seriously of leaving W... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:06pm   Peter Damian
That remark makes me think seriously of leaving ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:11pm   groody
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Can't speak for Kato, but I can speak for mys... Sun 23rd November 2008, 7:35pm     groody ...vandalized stuff does NOT go "out of exist... Sun 23rd November 2008, 8:16pm     Lar
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[quote name='Milton Roe' post='142657' date='Sun ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:32pm       Lar
[quote name='Milton Roe' post='142657' date='Sun... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:34pm   Kato
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I may be missing something, but can anyone explai... Sun 23rd November 2008, 4:37pm Pumpkin Muffins
I may be missing something, but can anyone explai... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:38pm  Doc glasgow
[quote name='Kato' post='142620' date='Sun 23rd N... Sun 23rd November 2008, 8:56pm   Peter Damian
His "content contributors vs ruling admins... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:03pm    Doc glasgow
His "content contributors vs ruling admins... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:15pm     Newyorkbrad
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='142681' date='Su... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:25pm     Peter Damian
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='142681' date='Su... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:38pm      Newyorkbrad
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[quote name='Peter Damian' post='142691' date='Su... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:51pm      Doc glasgow
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='142681' date='S... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:54pm   Pumpkin Muffins Kato is right, and Pumpkin Muffins is talking crap... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:46pm Peter Damian Like this
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