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| Kato |
Sun 23rd November 2008, 4:06pm
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I may be missing something, but can anyone explain to me what Giano actually does to deserve this Cult Status?
Sure, he writes a few nice articles, but so did fellow sock-puppeteers Poetguy and SlimVirgin. And writing a decent article for WP isn't particularly taxing.
I just take a look at Giano's endless drama-fueled stunts and wonder why he hasn't been given the boot long ago? His relentless, hyperactive, jack-in-the-box rabble-rousing lacks any credibility to me.
This kind of thing is clearly bad for Wikipedia -- which is good for everyone else, of course. If Giano was doing this stuff as some kind of anti-Wikipedia activist, I'd be applauding him at every turn, but he and a whole load of followers seem to think these antics represent some kind of credible anti-corruption drive to improve the place.
When the red mist clears, Team Giano are generally found to be as indoctrinated, and as blind to the genuine problems of WP as the most hardline Wikipedo. Meaning that these interpersonal dramas actually obstruct reform by sapping time and energy.
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| Peter Damian |
Sun 23rd November 2008, 4:31pm
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QUOTE(Kato @ Sun 23rd November 2008, 4:06pm)  I may be missing something, but can anyone explain to me what Giano actually does to deserve this Cult Status?
Sure, he writes a few nice articles, but so did fellow sock-puppeteers Poetguy and SlimVirgin. And writing a decent article for WP isn't particularly taxing.
I just take a look at Giano's endless drama-fueled stunts and wonder why he hasn't been given the boot long ago? His relentless, hyperactive, jack-in-the-box rabble-rousing lacks any credibility to me.
This kind of thing is clearly bad for Wikipedia -- which is good for everyone else, of course. If Giano was doing this stuff as some kind of anti-Wikipedia activist, I'd be applauding him at every turn, but he and a whole load of followers seem to think these antics represent some kind of credible anti-corruption drive to improve the place.
When the red mist clears, Team Giano are generally found to be as indoctrinated, and as blind to the genuine problems of WP as the most hardline Wikipedo. Meaning that these interpersonal dramas actually obstruct reform by sapping time and energy.
That remark makes me think seriously of leaving WR. Perhaps I wouldn't be missed. Giano may not lack drama but he stands for all the maligned and abused and despised content contributors that are still there. And he sticks up for them too. That was an appalling remark Kato. I had a very high opinion of you until I saw this.
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| Deacon |
Sun 23rd November 2008, 4:37pm
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Giano is seen as, and to a large extent is, the leading defender of content-contributors against the parasitical mandarin class and their leadership. To what extent he contributes articles is almost irrelevant, but that he is a great writer is beyond the doubt of anyone that reads his articles. This is more than one can say for most of the puffed-up nobodies who support his blocks, who do absolutely nothing except chatter to each other, endow each other with glorifying positions and tell others what they should do.
That he's being constantly blocked though probably doesn't anger many of his supporters these days, as each one is a demonstration in impotence and stupidity that doesn't do anyone but the issuer harm. It's this latter thing that amazes me. The newbie admin blocking him for attention and patronage is one thing, but guys like DG and FT2 doing it astonishes me. I mean, there was no chance either of these blocks were going to stick.
This post has been edited by Deacon: Sun 23rd November 2008, 4:42pm
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privatemusings Gerard blocks Giano for sockpuppetry Tue 18th November 2008, 10:25pm Doc glasgow
hee hee
impressively dumb!
(sorry DG, you... Tue 18th November 2008, 10:31pm LessHorrid vanU David Gerard has blocked Giano for operating the C... Tue 18th November 2008, 10:37pm Alex This thread is a duplicate. Should be merged.
Mod... Tue 18th November 2008, 10:47pm Alex Friday's opinion:
Tue 18th November 2008, 10:51pm Son of a Yeti
Friday's opinion:
It's getting better... Tue 18th November 2008, 11:00pm  Milton Roe
Friday's opinion:
It's getting bette... Tue 18th November 2008, 11:37pm sarcasticidealist Giano's handling this with uncharacteristic go... Tue 18th November 2008, 11:07pm Alex Now a request for arbitration is opened. Phil Sand... Tue 18th November 2008, 11:30pm Basil Phil Sandifer demonstrating that he hasn't los... Tue 18th November 2008, 11:35pm CrazyGameOfPoker ====Statement by [[User:Alex Bakharev|Alex Bakhare... Wed 19th November 2008, 1:01am Kato I might as well export a post I made to another th... Wed 19th November 2008, 1:15am EricBarbour
[b]All that blather about [i]those nasty arbcom m... Wed 19th November 2008, 5:36am The Joy I think it if this is accepted, it'll just be ... Wed 19th November 2008, 2:11am SirFozzie I have a sneaky suspicion that all folks who run f... Wed 19th November 2008, 2:15am The Wales Hunter
I have a sneaky suspicion that all folks who run ... Wed 19th November 2008, 2:27am SirFozzie That verification is REAL LIFE information (your n... Wed 19th November 2008, 2:28am The Wales Hunter Fair point. Though I wouldn't have any problem... Wed 19th November 2008, 2:37am Anonymous editor http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6817/facepalmmu... Wed 19th November 2008, 4:32am everyking None of these joke account sockpuppets should be a... Wed 19th November 2008, 5:57am Giano
None of these joke account sockpuppets should be ... Wed 19th November 2008, 9:27am  Cla68
None of these joke account sockpuppets should be... Thu 20th November 2008, 6:08am   Herschelkrustofsky
I usually just go to Jimbo's talk page and as... Sat 22nd November 2008, 9:56pm    Pumpkin Muffins ..and behold! This debate is now [url=http://e... Sun 23rd November 2008, 3:31am     The Joy
..and behold! This debate is now [url=http://... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:28am      Lar
I don't believe I've ever witnessed an on... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:44am       The Joy
I don't believe I've ever witnessed an o... Sun 23rd November 2008, 6:08am        Giggy
I'm not trying to gloat, Lar, and I can tell ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 7:28am         Deacon This recent block, done in the middle of a GMT nig... Sun 23rd November 2008, 7:45am       GlassBeadGame
I don't believe I've ever witnessed an o... Sun 23rd November 2008, 3:52pm     everyking
..and behold! This debate is now [url=http://... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:47am    Milton Roe
[quote name='Cla68' post='142155' date='Wed 19th ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 3:44am     Kato Probably Giano should have said that all the goth ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 4:57am      Milton Roe
[quote name='Milton Roe' post='142577' date='Sun ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 7:03pm Peter Damian I can't be bothered to comment. It's all ... Wed 19th November 2008, 9:09am maggot3 Already a thread about it, just for your informati... Wed 19th November 2008, 9:13am Peter Damian
Already a thread about it, just for your informat... Wed 19th November 2008, 9:17am Doc glasgow David Gerard was obviously trolling, but he's ... Wed 19th November 2008, 9:33am Giano
David Gerard was obviously trolling, but he's... Wed 19th November 2008, 9:54am  Doc glasgow
I just don't like the thought of David Gerar... Wed 19th November 2008, 1:01pm  Alex
I just don't like the thought of David Gerard... Wed 19th November 2008, 1:42pm Piperdown There's just something wrong with any organisa... Fri 21st November 2008, 1:29am Kato On an unrelated note, I generally loathe historica... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:44am Peter Damian Lovely comment on Giano talk page:
Oh yes and A... Sun 23rd November 2008, 8:59am Moulton [quote name='The Joy' post='142585' date='Sun 23rd... Sun 23rd November 2008, 10:49am Herschelkrustofsky
Oh yes and Adler knows his stuff. Mr. Adler, if ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 3:07pm SirFozzie and SlimVirgin has unblocked.
(Block log); 04:12 ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:18am Cla68
and SlimVirgin has unblocked.
(Block log); 04:12... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:29am  Cedric
That's a power play if I've ever seen one... Sun 23rd November 2008, 10:34am  Proabivouac
and SlimVirgin has unblocked.
(Block log); 04:12 ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 10:44am Deacon
and SlimVirgin has unblocked.
Was wondering wh... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:29am SirFozzie .. No. I don't agree with the block, but I wou... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:33am Deacon
.. No. I don't agree with the block, but I wo... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:48am Peter Damian I expect I will be accused of harrassing FT2 again... Sun 23rd November 2008, 3:45pm Herschelkrustofsky
The only remotely uncivil remark he made was this... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:43pm   Herschelkrustofsky
Giano is seen as, and to a large extent is, the l... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:46pm    Peter Damian
[quote name='Deacon' post='142623' date='Sun 23rd... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:51pm  Obesity
That remark makes me think seriously of leaving W... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:06pm   Peter Damian
That remark makes me think seriously of leaving ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:11pm   groody
Please, Peter. This is vintage Kato. Anyone who... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:25pm    Milton Roe
Can't speak for Kato, but I can speak for mys... Sun 23rd November 2008, 7:35pm     groody ...vandalized stuff does NOT go "out of exist... Sun 23rd November 2008, 8:16pm     Lar
As Mr. Spock once said about logic, it's a wr... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:16pm      Milton Roe
[quote name='Milton Roe' post='142657' date='Sun ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:32pm       Lar
[quote name='Milton Roe' post='142657' date='Sun... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:34pm   Kato
Please, Peter. This is vintage Kato. Anyone who... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:26pm    Obesity
I don't recall writing anything of the sort y... Sun 23rd November 2008, 6:14pm     Kato
If I hurt your feelings, I'm sorry, but your ... Sun 23rd November 2008, 7:02pm  Kato
That remark makes me think seriously of leaving W... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:46pm wikiwhistle
I may be missing something, but can anyone explai... Sun 23rd November 2008, 4:37pm Pumpkin Muffins
I may be missing something, but can anyone explai... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:38pm  Doc glasgow
[quote name='Kato' post='142620' date='Sun 23rd N... Sun 23rd November 2008, 8:56pm   Peter Damian
His "content contributors vs ruling admins... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:03pm    Doc glasgow
His "content contributors vs ruling admins... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:15pm     Newyorkbrad
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='142681' date='Su... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:25pm     Peter Damian
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='142681' date='Su... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:38pm      Newyorkbrad
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='142681' date='S... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:48pm       Peter Damian
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='142691' date='Su... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:51pm      Doc glasgow
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='142681' date='S... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:54pm   Pumpkin Muffins Kato is right, and Pumpkin Muffins is talking crap... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:46pm Peter Damian Like this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Pal... Sun 23rd November 2008, 4:44pm wikiwhistle
Like this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Pa... Sun 23rd November 2008, 4:59pm  maggot3
Precisely, he's only worked on a few articles... Sun 23rd November 2008, 6:03pm Piperdown Most "uncivil".
http://en.wikipedia.org... Sun 23rd November 2008, 4:58pm Mike H
We went from Peter Damian to Michael Damian. Lov... Sun 23rd November 2008, 5:14pm Peter Damian Even our own Wikiwhistle joins the anti-Giano hord... Sun 23rd November 2008, 6:01pm JoseClutch True or not, Giano is also widely seen as the vict... Sun 23rd November 2008, 6:34pm Kelly Martin he gets a pass when he returns the level of civili... Sun 23rd November 2008, 6:50pm wikiwhistle Here is the content contribution in giano's la... Sun 23rd November 2008, 7:39pm GlassBeadGame It is not surprising that people disenchanted with... Sun 23rd November 2008, 7:47pm Peter Damian
Here is the content contribution in giano's l... Sun 23rd November 2008, 8:51pm Deacon In other news, FT2 has launched an Arbitration cas... Sun 23rd November 2008, 7:58pm One OK, this thread has gone on long enough without th... Sun 23rd November 2008, 8:06pm Milton Roe
OK, this thread has gone on long enough without t... Sun 23rd November 2008, 8:18pm The Wales Hunter
OK, this thread has gone on long enough without t... Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:00pm D.A.F. Interesting Sun 23rd November 2008, 9:16pm
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