FT2 vs. SlimVirgin, The end is near! Options

[Shalom]

I can't make this up. SlimVirgin might be desysopped for unblocking Giano.

Read all about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...:_re_SlimVirgin

[Hipocrite]

The FT2, Charles Matthews axis of ArbCom believes their actions are sacrosanct. This is an example of their whiney petulance at anyone disagreeing with them - shades of OrangeMarlin, SLRubenstein, Vanished user. The patten is that one of the two freakishly anti-encyclopedia Arbitors does something, it gets undone, and then, using their Arcom mailing list, they campaign other Arbitors to back them up. Because the opposing parties don't get to see what falsehoods FT2 and CM are peddling about them, and because FT2 and CM will agressively create findings and remidies on the proposed decision page (skipping the workshop and evidence page entirely), and arbcoms desire to present a unanimous face, they are able to get this done.

I'm shocked FT2 didn't just recuse himself and work entirely through their mailing list and Charles. He's the most ham-handed manipulator ever. Why he didn't have one of his pet admins file the case (Elonka is the obvious candidate), why he didn't recuse - it's pure hubris.

[dogbiscuit]

I'm shocked FT2 didn't just recuse himself and work entirely through their mailing list and Charles. He's the most ham-handed manipulator ever. Why he didn't have one of his pet admins file the case (Elonka is the obvious candidate), why he didn't recuse - it's pure hubris.

FT2 simply is not as bright as he likes to think he is*, after his ill-fated previous attempt to steam-roller ArbCom into taking a decision that in retrospect turned out not to have been an ArbCom decision but something of his own doing, you would have thought he had learnt his lesson. The pure failure to recognise not that he had a conflict of interest, but that even with the gubbins he spouts that others would not call him on this conflict, speaks volumes. One can only think he had DG or similar in the background egging him on, telling him black is white and 2 + 2 = 5. FT2 is definitely someone who once he believes he is right simply cannot hear any criticism - well it must be wrong if he doesn't agree so why take any notice?

I believe in modern parlance this is known as an epic fail.


*And we can thank our lucky stars that... for those of a certain age, though I think I've used that line before.

[Kato]

*And we can thank our lucky stars that... for those of a certain age, though I think I've used that line before.

Dean Friedman - where is he now? Actually, I knew someone who was still a massive fan of Dean Friedman well into the new millennium and went to see him tour about 6-7 years ago - so he's obviously still in circulation somewhere. Ugh.

Anyway, SlimVirgin writes:

Overturning a block once is not wheel-warring. By the ArbCom's own definition, wheel warring is the repeated overturning of an admin action. There is also no obligation for admins to discuss blocks before overturning them, especially when they feel the block is clearly wrong. All attempts (including by myself) to change WP:BLOCK to prohibit unblocking without discussion have failed — admins want to retain the right to overturn a block immediately, where they feel in good faith that it cannot be justified

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Yet last year, when Jimbo banned Miltopia and Zscout370 undid the ban, Jimbo wrote:

For those who have not followed along. I banned a longtime abusive problem user who had slipped through the cracks by being just annoying enough to get indef blocked and reinstated multiple times, and I asked for calm over the weekend. Zscout370 instead wheel warred with me by unblocking and making snide remarks. Well, no. Admins don't do that. Not to any admin.--Jimbo Wales 19:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

So who is right? Jimbo Wales or SlimVirgin?

[Kelly Martin]

So who is right? Jimbo Wales or SlimVirgin?

Obviously, it's "wheel warring" when an admin reverses a Jimbo-block, but not wheel-warring when two ordinary admins reverse one another. Obviously, FT2 is claiming Jimbo-nature; the question is whether the rest of the Arbcom (or Jimbo himself) will ratify this claim.

[dogbiscuit]

So who is right? Jimbo Wales or SlimVirgin?

Obviously, it's "wheel warring" when an admin reverses a Jimbo-block, but not wheel-warring when two ordinary admins reverse one another. Obviously, FT2 is claiming Jimbo-nature; the question is whether the rest of the Arbcom (or Jimbo himself) will ratify this claim.

The answer has to be "none of the above". If the system is so messed up that those at its pinnacle cannot interpret and apply rules in a rational and transparent way then that tells us that it might just be a problem with the rules.

This should not be this hard, should it?