Admin watch, Quis custodiet ipsos custodes Options

[Peter Damian]

Apologies if this is already on another thread

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tony1/AdminWatch

The talk page is quite funny

[Queeran]

Hey look - they had a nice pile-on on WP:ANI, followed by starting to ban people from wikipedia merely for contributing to this one. Guess it fails for the same reason anything else fails, you have to get anything with a prayer of sanctioning admins for abuse past the rest of the abusive shits. Front and center on the block, the ever-abusive dickweed JzG, and following up the equally malicious jpgordon, with an assist from Tanthalas39, who first says no policy is being breached, then comes back and declines the unblock anyways. I wonder who sent him a nice threatening, private email saying "you'd better be on board or I'll cause you trouble" - just the sort of shithead move JzG always pulls and everyone lets him get away with.

And of course, they're in full abuse mode now...

[LessHorrid vanU]

Hey look - they had a nice pile-on on WP:ANI, followed by starting to ban people from wikipedia merely for contributing to this one. Guess it fails for the same reason anything else fails, you have to get anything with a prayer of sanctioning admins for abuse past the rest of the abusive shits. Front and center on the block, the ever-abusive dickweed JzG, and following up the equally malicious jpgordon, with an assist from Tanthalas39, who first says no policy is being breached, then comes back and declines the unblock anyways. I wonder who sent him a nice threatening, private email saying "you'd better be on board or I'll cause you trouble" - just the sort of shithead move JzG always pulls and everyone lets him get away with.

And of course, they're in full abuse mode now...

I think Admin Watch has a better chance of being a useful resource without the likes of WhoWatches taking instances out of the blue and saying, "See, ADMIN ABUSE!!!" He did it with me as an example, and he wouldn't listen to any response and just re-iterated a couple of misconceptions regarding admin judgement and said me doing otherwise was abuse. Also, he didn't notify me that he was using an action of mine as an example, someone else let me know, but when he was being discussed at ANI he complained bitterly about not being notified...

I support Admin Watch as a concept, because it is true that posting stuff on Admin Noticeboards does tend to bring out a protectionist sentiment in the readership - who are largely either admins or admin wannabe's. A board where non flagged editors can co-ordinate to reveal patterns of abuse (or at least, non optimal actions) from a particular admin could be useful, providing it isn't... er... "overscrutinised" by likely subjects. It would also be more effective if it wasn't populated mostly by individuals with an anti-Admin advocacy tendency (although it should be recognised that someone with such a viewpoint is more likely to suffer from admin abuse than those who are unfortunate to catch a sysop with a grudge). In fact, I may even offer to patrol it to ensure against coercive editing if it gets to a reasonable standard (and, er, they would be happy for an admin to be so involved).

[Queeran]

What you really MEAN to say is YOU abused someone, you got caught, and rather than just fess up to it and fix your own mistake, you're a typical scumwad abuser who decided to kill the messenger.

Face facts. You made a block that wasn't in line with policy, then you admitted openly that you do this all the time by making a default "policy" to block for 31 hours as a base.

Of course, since you're an abusive jerk admin, you have no problem lying through your rotten teeth about what you did and what the situation is any more than JzG, jpgordon, or the rest of the scum do.

And then of course there's the lying scum shit going on even more right now - Black Kite lying his fucking face off claiming a commenter was a "TOR Proxy" (I call bullshit, there's no fucking proxy there, I scanned it myself and it has only one edit anyways), Scarian making threats against Malleus Fatuorum, the whole nine yards.

This instance is just another example of how you shithead lying admins cover up for each other, especially the wikilawyering bit. You don't really want to see wikipedia cleaned up, you'll never consider the possibility that you were wrong, and you don't even want to see anyone attempt to point out when another admin screwed up unless they bend down, crawl, kiss your boots, and lick something grosser first. I went through this shit when I was falsely accused of being a sockpuppet for no reason other than a jumped-up cocksucker of an admin decided they needed someone new to abuse in order to "extend" an arbcom block, I watched the same thing happen to at least a dozen other people, and of course any attempt to fix it fails miserably thanks to "people" (if you even fucking qualify as such) like you.

I call it as I see it. You don't "support" fixing the system. You're the judo arm of the misinformation operation, the Microsoft "embrace, extend, redirect" player, just as JzG is the crazy asswad with a hammer who thinks his job is to smash everything in sight.

[Black Kite]

And then of course there's the lying scum shit going on even more right now - Black Kite lying his fucking face off claiming a commenter was a "TOR Proxy" (I call bullshit, there's no fucking proxy there, I scanned it myself and it has only one edit anyways), Scarian making threats against Malleus Fatuorum, the whole nine yards.

TOR check for that IP

I've locked WhoWatches talkpage after his latest unblock rant. I don't usually do that, but this was just getting pointless, as no-one is going to unblock. He was only derailing what was previously quite a useful discussion on AdminWatch (which I don't have any objection to if it's run properly, and Tony1 is probably the person to make sure it does).

BK

This post has been edited by Black Kite: Fri 2nd January 2009, 10:48pm

[Peter Damian]

[ blanked - all these people, including the admins, are nutcases. Everyone on Wikipedia, including myself, is a nutcase]

This post has been edited by Peter Damian: Fri 2nd January 2009, 11:17pm