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Peter Damian
post Wed 3rd December 2008, 5:06pm
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Apologies if this is already on another thread

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tony1/AdminWatch

The talk page is quite funny
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Kato
post Wed 25th February 2009, 11:49am
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There are still debates going on in the talk page, and elections are due in March.

On another thread, someone here talked about implementing mandatory desysoppings of admins after two years of service. And after that, the admin has to reapply via the normal processes if they wish to continue being an admin.

That would probably be a better way of ensuring that Admins stay within boundaries during their tenure and don't go on the rampage against others. It would devolve power away from cliques, and act as a reminder that if admins didn't behave, they would face the grim prospect of an inevitable unpleasant RFA on the horizon.

But it is unlikely to be supported, even though it would be a good thing. Political Wikipedios would quickly start quoting an Alphabet Soup Contradiction of WP:IGONRE ALL RULES and WP:NOT and any other crap they could think of. Such a proposal would be scorned, and the abuse would continue without interruption.
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post Wed 25th February 2009, 3:32pm
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QUOTE(Kato @ Wed 25th February 2009, 11:49am) *

On another thread, someone here talked about implementing mandatory desysoppings of admins after two years of service. And after that, the admin has to reapply via the normal processes if they wish to continue being an admin.

That would probably be a better way of ensuring that Admins stay within boundaries during their tenure and don't go on the rampage against others. It would devolve power away from cliques, and act as a reminder that if admins didn't behave, they would face the grim prospect of an inevitable unpleasant RFA on the horizon.

But it is unlikely to be supported, even though it would be a good thing. Political Wikipedios would quickly start quoting an Alphabet Soup Contradiction of WP:IGONRE ALL RULES and WP:NOT and any other crap they could think of. Such a proposal would be scorned, and the abuse would continue without interruption.


(I agree that it will probably never happen, but let's suppose for the sake of argument that this system is adopted)

Which current admins other than Newyorkbrad you think would successfully be re-elected after two years? (wow, has NYB been an admin that long? I had to go check actually)

Maybe this could be split into a separate thread as I'd like to hear other's opinions too, if anyone else wants to seriously answer this question.

Actually let's broaden it to "one year standing" so the result doesn't look so much like AfterMASH. Anything less than that and we'll mostly get names of people who can't be evaluated well due to lack of opportunity to screw up administratively.

I'm not asking for who anyone personally thinks is a good admin, though that would be an interesting discussion also as nobody ever talks about that here, only about the admins they have a problem with.

In a nutshell, who (once again, not named "Brad") would pass a re-confirmation RFA after one year or two years or whatever (with no intermediate time off to "reform" and "repent" whatever kind of sins they have accrued)?

I can't think of any offhand I'd bet money on, but I'll keep trying.
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post Wed 25th February 2009, 6:21pm
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QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Wed 25th February 2009, 9:32am) *
Which current admins other than Newyorkbrad you think would successfully be re-elected after two years? (wow, has NYB been an admin that long? I had to go check actually)
I'm sure quite a lot would be. We just don't know who they are because they're the admins that don't create drama, and we only pay attention to admins who create drama.
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Peter Damian   Admin watch   Wed 3rd December 2008, 5:06pm
Kato   That Tony1 guy is a real ballbreaker but he demand...   Wed 3rd December 2008, 5:20pm
Son of a Yeti   Apologies if this is already on another thread h...   Wed 3rd December 2008, 6:51pm
Kato   Despite a bunch of admins (led by that rather sini...   Mon 29th December 2008, 4:19pm
Peter Damian   Despite a bunch of admins (led by that rather sin...   Mon 29th December 2008, 5:24pm
Basil   Tony is a good guy who has been with the project ...   Mon 29th December 2008, 10:45pm
Obesity   I expect that will have something to do with this...   Mon 29th December 2008, 11:27pm
Eva Destruction   I expect that will have something to do with this...   Mon 29th December 2008, 11:27pm
Kato   Scroll down the deletion debate page for Tony...   Tue 30th December 2008, 2:34am
Queeran   Hey look - they had a nice pile-on on WP:ANI, foll...   Fri 2nd January 2009, 7:47pm
LessHorrid vanU   Hey look - they had a nice pile-on on WP:ANI, fol...   Fri 2nd January 2009, 8:29pm
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Black Kite   And then of course there's the lying scum shi...   Fri 2nd January 2009, 10:41pm
Queeran   Quoth the lying shitfucking asswad Black Kite, ...   Fri 2nd January 2009, 11:04pm
Peter Damian   [ blanked - all these people, including the admins...   Fri 2nd January 2009, 11:06pm
Black Kite   Black Kite, as I remember, was the one Wales warn...   Fri 2nd January 2009, 11:18pm
Castle Rock   What you really MEAN to say is YOU abused someone...   Fri 2nd January 2009, 11:10pm
Queeran   I don't have "trolling socks", or an...   Fri 2nd January 2009, 11:25pm
Castle Rock   I don't have "trolling socks", or a...   Fri 2nd January 2009, 11:58pm
GlassBeadGame   A thread discussing a Wikipedia users attempt at m...   Fri 2nd January 2009, 11:31pm
Black Kite   Strangely I tend to call bullshit as I find it, bu...   Fri 2nd January 2009, 11:37pm
Somey   Personally, I'd have to say that anyone using ...   Sat 3rd January 2009, 12:17am
Kato   ...we'll probably have to treat it as a thre...   Sat 3rd January 2009, 12:35am
Moulton   See also Narcissistic Wounding.   Sat 3rd January 2009, 12:35am
Random832   Speaking of thread derailment...   Sat 3rd January 2009, 5:08am
Kato   Renamed "AdminReview" from AdminWatch. ...   Sun 4th January 2009, 1:19am
Anonymous editor   link   Wed 14th January 2009, 1:37am
Kato   Tony seems to have got himself into a bitter dispu...   Wed 14th January 2009, 3:38pm
MBisanz   MBisanz is an occasional member here, but is pron...   Thu 15th January 2009, 1:38am
Somey   I was not the person who removed Brandt's comm...   Thu 15th January 2009, 5:00am
Kato   [quote name='Kato' post='151150' date='Wed 14th J...   Thu 15th January 2009, 1:03pm
Kato   Tony is still plugging away. One important potent...   Mon 19th January 2009, 12:45pm
Moulton   One important potential problem they'll need t...   Mon 19th January 2009, 1:09pm
Kato   The challenge is whether anyone in the Wikisphere ...   Mon 19th January 2009, 1:16pm
Kato   Tony's now taking a look at the Policies for A...   Fri 23rd January 2009, 3:12am
Milton Roe   A paradox. For if "Mr. Sanger" was rig...   Tue 3rd February 2009, 5:51pm
the fieryangel   A paradox. For if "Mr. Sanger" was ri...   Tue 3rd February 2009, 11:23pm
Milton Roe   A paradox. For if "Mr. Sanger" was r...   Wed 4th February 2009, 1:47am
the fieryangel   Alas, it also contains a few people like David Ge...   Wed 4th February 2009, 9:52am
EricBarbour   The vote on keeping AdminWatch is a fairly good in...   Fri 23rd January 2009, 4:07am
LaraLove   Dollar says someone high up in the cabal will del...   Fri 23rd January 2009, 4:14am
everyking   The vote on keeping AdminWatch is a fairly good i...   Fri 23rd January 2009, 4:51am
MBisanz   Sceptre, MBisanz, MZMcBride, Redvers, Scarian an...   Fri 23rd January 2009, 4:57am
Anonymous editor   The vote on keeping AdminWatch is a fairly good i...   Fri 23rd January 2009, 5:43am
Kato   Tony debates with User:Jayron, on a subpage here. ...   Fri 23rd January 2009, 4:12pm
EricBarbour   At present, probably the most productive "Adm...   Sat 24th January 2009, 8:50am
Kato   According to Tony Elections for the Coordinators ...   Tue 3rd February 2009, 4:20pm
Obesity   According to Tony Elections for the Coordinators...   Tue 3rd February 2009, 4:33pm
GlassBeadGame   According to Tony [quote=Tony1]Elections for the...   Tue 3rd February 2009, 4:37pm
Sarcasticidealist   This just in: The Fieryangel thinks that people sh...   Tue 3rd February 2009, 11:30pm
EricBarbour   It's still there, now called AdminReview. No ...   Wed 25th February 2009, 9:15am
Kato   There are still debates going on in the talk page,...   Wed 25th February 2009, 11:49am
Jon Awbrey   There are still debates going on in the talk page...   Wed 25th February 2009, 12:39pm
Sarcasticidealist   In a nutshell, who (once again, not named "Br...   Wed 25th February 2009, 3:41pm
JoseClutch   [quote name='CharlotteWebb' post='158364' date='W...   Wed 25th February 2009, 4:47pm
CharlotteWebb   In fact, I would be surprised if there were a doz...   Wed 25th February 2009, 5:20pm
Somey   How much of this (your viewpoint) hinges on admin...   Wed 25th February 2009, 6:11pm
JoseClutch   In fact, I would be surprised if there were a do...   Wed 25th February 2009, 7:36pm
Newyorkbrad   [quote name='CharlotteWebb' post='158385' date='W...   Wed 25th February 2009, 10:18pm
Eva Destruction   [A reconfirmation process won't work…] Whe...   Wed 25th February 2009, 10:32pm
Newyorkbrad   [A reconfirmation process won't work…] Wh...   Wed 25th February 2009, 10:35pm
Eva Destruction   [quote name='Eva Destruction' post='158479' date=...   Wed 25th February 2009, 10:38pm
Milton Roe   My hunch is that most admins would be reconfirmed...   Wed 25th February 2009, 10:40pm
EricBarbour   It is difficult to predict what sort of norms migh...   Wed 25th February 2009, 10:45pm
Sarcasticidealist   His Wiki-buddies do it for him. They serve at his ...   Thu 26th February 2009, 2:44am
GlassBeadGame   His Wiki-buddies do it for him. They serve at his...   Thu 26th February 2009, 3:01am
EricBarbour   Agree. Mr. Wales' greatest disservice to Wiki...   Thu 26th February 2009, 4:49am
Moulton   [quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='158523' date='We...   Thu 26th February 2009, 5:21am
One   [quote name='EricBarbour' post='158487' date='Wed...   Thu 26th February 2009, 4:27am
Jon Awbrey   Once again, I think this hits the mark. Jimbo see...   Thu 26th February 2009, 4:32am
Kelly Martin   There are 1600 administrators on the English Wikip...   Thu 26th February 2009, 3:15am
CharlotteWebb   A majority (even without the effective lowering o...   Wed 25th February 2009, 4:56pm
Sarcasticidealist   I forgot to mention, no self-noms. But yes, one co...   Wed 25th February 2009, 5:01pm
CharlotteWebb   Not sure of the meaning of your quotation marks, ...   Wed 25th February 2009, 6:03pm
A Horse With No Name   On another thread, someone here talked about imp...   Wed 25th February 2009, 3:53pm
CharlotteWebb   I'm sure quite a lot would be. We just don...   Wed 25th February 2009, 6:43pm
Bottled_Spider   Which current admins other than Newyorkbrad you th...   Wed 25th February 2009, 6:32pm
EricBarbour   I say it's time to look at the [i]badmin probl...   Wed 25th February 2009, 7:29pm
Sarcasticidealist   I still think that if Jimbo and his top whores (Ba...   Wed 25th February 2009, 8:59pm
Milton Roe   I still think that if Jimbo and his top whores (B...   Wed 25th February 2009, 9:49pm
Kato   One of the leading supporters - and apparently an ...   Tue 10th March 2009, 7:10pm
Cla68   One of the leading supporters - and apparently an...   Tue 10th March 2009, 11:33pm
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east.718   Perfect is the enemy of good.   Wed 18th March 2009, 4:28am
EricBarbour   Could swear someone else wrote a similar proposal-...   Wed 18th March 2009, 4:58am


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