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| Kato |
Wed 10th December 2008, 10:05pm
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In a blog post, disgraced WMF UK spokesman David Gerard - previously best known as the guy who blocked a whole region of Utah, and censored various IPs round the world, as well as censoring "encyclopedia text", all because he didn't like the views of one person who turned out to be correct anyway - and the guy currently accused of entirely deleting ("oversighting" or "censoring" if you will) edits on the subject of zoophilia to protect a fellow high-powered Wikipedian who made them, for political reasons - boasts that after his appearances in the media to oppose the recent IWF censorship:
QUOTE(David Gerard) A small amount of gleeful dancing on the skulls of the IWF today. This is aimed at a group who work with the Police and Child Protection agencies to alert ISPs about potentially illegal exploitative images of children. He goes on to write: QUOTE(David Gerard) I predict a flood of helpful citizenry going to the IWF reporting page and entering any image on any top 10 website that might be “potentially illegal.” Much as the head of the IWF is “potentially a fabulous drag queen.” Can Wikipedia get more hypocritical, arrogant and obnoxious? EDIT: More on David Gerard here. |
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Thu 1st January 2009, 8:20pm
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To some extent, people like Dave can get away with this sort of thing by pointing out that there are "a few exceptions" and then telling anyone who objects, "well, of course, you're one of the exceptions." (Which is usually followed by, "Would you like to see my collection of early-Baroque Italian butt-plugs?")
He's also used this term "ad-banner trolling" quite a bit in the past - you'll never hear anything positive from him about ad banners, even though they're one of the main reasons the so-called "information economy" has survived this long. And it's clear that Dave doesn't understand the relationship between the commercial web and the "free" web that Wikipedia supposedly is a part of. In fact, his essential point doesn't even scan correctly - the purpose of the "unsubstantiable bullshit" is to reward both new and existing advertisers, and convince them to advertise more - not "GET THE CLICKS." It's the advertisers' job to put together something that people will actually click on. The tech press's job is to produce copy that's reasonably accurate, of interest to at least somebody, and that will rank well in search engines, so that people will see the ad. Sure, ad banners suck - so does all advertising. But advertising allows commercial sites to do things that mob-sourced sites like Wikipedia can't do, such as have stable versions of things, and impose quality standards (not to mention behavioral standards) that are actually meaningful. And evidently, at least in Davegerardland, Wikipedia's job is to try to make commercial media websites look bad, and also to have as big a search-engine footprint as possible so as to help put them out of business. Presumably, the idea there is to replace them with "free" media sites, at which point we'll get more stories whose message is, "FREE IS GOOD! FREE IS GOOD!" At which point, the end of the information economy as a viable human enterprise will be close at hand, and we'll all have to go back to actually working for a living. ![]() |
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To some extent, people like Dave can get away with this sort of thing by pointing out that there are "a few exceptions" and then telling anyone who objects, "well, of course, you're one of the exceptions." (Which is usually followed by, "Would you like to see my collection of early-Baroque Italian butt-plugs?") He's also used this term "ad-banner trolling" quite a bit in the past - you'll never hear anything positive from him about ad banners, even though they're one of the main reasons the so-called "information economy" has survived this long. His is a bit of a hypocrite, what with his hosting lemonparty dot org and a dozen other shock sites used in trolling. They each contain links to adultfriendfinder, heyya and other similar sites that pay referral fees. |
Kato David Gerard "dances on the skulls" of the IWF Wed 10th December 2008, 10:05pm
GlassBeadGame
In a blog post, disgraced WMF UK spokesman David ... Wed 10th December 2008, 10:08pm
Alex Well let's face it, the whole thing was a big ... Wed 10th December 2008, 10:22pm
Kato
Well let's face it, the whole thing was a big... Wed 10th December 2008, 10:37pm
Lifebaka I'm not sure you can equate Gerard to all of W... Wed 10th December 2008, 10:53pm
Kato
I'm not sure you can equate Gerard to all of ... Wed 10th December 2008, 11:13pm

Lifebaka
[quote name='Lifebaka' post='146447' date='Wed 10... Wed 10th December 2008, 11:26pm
Silly Fake Name
And the ISPs not forwarding the actual IP addres... Wed 10th December 2008, 11:38pm
Lifebaka
And the ISPs not forwarding the actual IP addre... Wed 10th December 2008, 11:46pm
Cedric Hopefully, Gerard in his capacity as "spokesm... Wed 10th December 2008, 10:57pm
dogbiscuit
Hopefully, Gerard in his capacity as "spokes... Wed 10th December 2008, 11:15pm
Dzonatas
Hopefully someone will think to contrast the ... Fri 12th December 2008, 4:56pm
Piperdown David Gerard is now notable by Wikipedia's sta... Thu 11th December 2008, 12:45am
Kato Sticky Parkin asks about creating a Biography on D... Fri 12th December 2008, 4:17am
EricBarbour
Heh. In that case, Mr. Gerard can personally remo... Fri 12th December 2008, 5:29am
Alison
A small amount of gleeful dancing on the skulls o... Fri 12th December 2008, 5:59am
Kato [quote name='Alison' post='146665' date='Fri 12th ... Fri 12th December 2008, 6:15am
Somey In his blog post, the Australian resident of the U... Fri 12th December 2008, 6:55am
dtobias Forces of censorship and oppression always claim t... Fri 12th December 2008, 1:29pm
dogbiscuit
Forces of censorship and oppression always claim ... Fri 12th December 2008, 3:05pm

JoseClutch
However, it would be foolish to assume that any s... Fri 12th December 2008, 5:37pm

Milton Roe
However, it would be foolish to assume that any ... Fri 12th December 2008, 8:05pm

JoseClutch
[quote name='JoseClutch' post='146745' date='Fri ... Fri 12th December 2008, 9:42pm
Somey Forces of censorship and oppression always claim t... Fri 12th December 2008, 5:31pm
Dzonatas ... there's no question that there's a lot... Fri 12th December 2008, 6:12pm
dtobias
You can try to claim sensationalism. I wonder if ... Fri 12th December 2008, 7:51pm
Random832
Weren't you going to write something up on ... Fri 12th December 2008, 7:55pm
Dzonatas
Weren't you going to write something up on... Fri 12th December 2008, 8:46pm
dtobias (Though, if I were putting myself forward as a spo... Fri 12th December 2008, 1:48pm
Kato Silvered tongued David Gerard, Wikimedia Foundatio... Thu 1st January 2009, 2:58pm
GlassBeadGame Way to pay the tech press back for their yeoman... Thu 1st January 2009, 4:08pm
CrazyGameOfPoker
Way to pay the tech press back for their yeoman... Thu 1st January 2009, 4:27pm
tarantino
[quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='149624' date='T... Thu 1st January 2009, 7:21pm
EricBarbour
And evidently, at least in Davegerardland, Wikipe... Thu 1st January 2009, 9:08pm
Pumpkin Muffins
To some extent, people like Dave can get away wit... Fri 2nd January 2009, 8:09pm
LessHorrid vanU Can anyone tell me what the last sentence of DG... Thu 1st January 2009, 8:43pm
Eva Destruction
Can anyone tell me what the last sentence of DG... Thu 1st January 2009, 8:56pm
Somey Glad to be of service
Hmmm... :hmmm: Thanks, but ... Thu 1st January 2009, 9:18pm
EricBarbour
In essence, this is just another way of saying th... Thu 1st January 2009, 9:36pm![]() ![]() |
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