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post Tue 13th January 2009, 9:34pm
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FT2 has posted a letter of resignation on Jimbo's talk page:

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post Thu 15th January 2009, 7:50am
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QUOTE(Cla68 @ Thu 15th January 2009, 1:42am) *

FT2 has posted a letter of conditional resignation on Jimbo's talk page:

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Yikes - I have to say, I wasn't expecting that. (Though the line about the "fair hearing with appropriate gravitas" is priceless!)

And he managed to do it in only 2,600 words, too... wtf.gif
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post Thu 15th January 2009, 8:59am
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QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 15th January 2009, 7:50am) *

QUOTE(Cla68 @ Thu 15th January 2009, 1:42am) *

FT2 has posted a letter of conditional resignation on Jimbo's talk page:

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Yikes - I have to say, I wasn't expecting that. (Though the line about the "fair hearing with appropriate gravitas" is priceless!)

And he managed to do it in only 2,600 words, too... wtf.gif

I got bored, but I think his little rant showed his fundamental lack of self-awareness which has always been at the bottom of his disputes.

I found the PoetLister section a classic - how he solved it all himself alone (is he therefore admitting that he was the one who hacked the private emails?) how this vital issue of international importance required him interfering with PL's employers at the highest level.

More generally all the good things we can never understand he did so perfectly because it is all private, so we just have to take his word for it. We have lost Wikipedia's most valuable asset, obviously.
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post Thu 15th January 2009, 3:20pm
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QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Thu 15th January 2009, 8:59am) *

I found the PoetLister section a classic - how he solved it all himself alone (is he therefore admitting that he was the one who hacked the private emails?) how this vital issue of international importance required him interfering with PL's employers at the highest level.


FT2 writes:

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I handled personally and alone, the cross-wiki inquiry into Poetlister/Cato. This involved a team of arbs, crats, and cross-wiki stewards, the historically prickly "political" relationships between the enwiki and wikiquote communities or users within them, WMF (Jimbo, Cary), three top level directors within the UK civil service, and the user himself. The risk here was of "rogue checkuser", the creation of a media storm harmful to the project, and immense loss of trust related to private data handling. It was complicated by a lack of formal proof of rogue-ness, and communal mis-belief these socks were genuine people. The matter was handled in a way that caused less drama than most desysoppings. It took a large part of 3 - 4 months of my year to do so, and was highly commended by seasoned Wikimedians.

Despite being by far the most sensitive and complex sock-puppetry matter in the entire history of all WMF projects combined, and with inter-project and real-life "political" concerns, it still concluded with barely a ripple in any WMF sense, and with all matters under good control from a WMF and enwiki perspective.


So who hacked Poetguy's private email - read all the posts to discover the sockpuppetry - and did the nasty? That question has never been answered.

What was FT2's involvement in that? If any?

And besides, by the time Poetguy imploded all over this board last Spring, Somey was just about the last person left who was still convinced Poetguy wasn't a fraud of some sort. FT2 was somewhere behind Inspector Clouseau and Helen Keller in making the necessary connections.

Anyway, I'm glad FT2 has resigned. I've been calling for leading disgraced Wikipedians to do the honourable thing and resign when it gets too much for a long while. But they hardly ever do. At least FT2 had the good sense now. Last month, when FT2 was engaged in some sordid drama or other here, I requested that he get off the pot asap. He should have done it then, as his extra month has done him no favors.

QUOTE(Kato @ Tue 16th December 2008, 3:47pm) *

FT2, word of advice; I hope you will lay down the tools from the websites you have used them, and get on with your mainstream life, as well.

It's time for you to move on from Wikipedia because you are drowning. And the only way is down for you.

Wikipedia has become too important for someone who goes about like you to hold positions of power over other people. And the whirlpools surrounding your every move are getting faster and faster.

You need to recognize this and cut your losses before you find yourself sinking deeper and deeper into grimy tarpits like this.
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Anonymous editor   Bishonen indef-blocks FT2   Tue 13th January 2009, 9:34pm
Somey   Good thing he already has a WR account! That s...   Tue 13th January 2009, 9:38pm
Anonymous editor   unblocked 10 minutes later by another admin.   Tue 13th January 2009, 9:40pm
trenton   ....and unblocked by crony Scarian... Incidentall...   Tue 13th January 2009, 9:41pm
Dzonatas   ....and unblocked by crony Scarian... Incidental...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:00pm
trenton   Called it! Fourth post. WR make such good vi...   Wed 14th January 2009, 1:58am
Kelly Martin   I guess the WikiDramaQuotient (WDQ) had dropped to...   Tue 13th January 2009, 9:53pm
Peter Damian   F--- I was just going to bed how dare she do that.   Tue 13th January 2009, 9:55pm
Bottled_Spider   This is going to be fun.   Tue 13th January 2009, 9:56pm
SirFozzie   .... WHAFUCK???? 15 edit conflicts before I could...   Tue 13th January 2009, 9:56pm
Milton Roe   I hope Bishonen thought long and hard about the ...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:30pm
Anonymous editor   I hope Bishonen thought long and hard about the...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:31pm
sarcasticidealist   Shame the flaming Godzilla version of Bish never m...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:31pm
Milton Roe   Shame the flaming Godzilla version of Bish never ...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:36pm
everyking   It is simply ludicrous that people think they can ...   Tue 13th January 2009, 9:58pm
cyofee   It is simply ludicrous that people think they can...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:03pm
SirFozzie   It is simply ludicrous that people think they ca...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:14pm
wikiwhistle   It is simply ludicrous that people think they can...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:28pm
JoseClutch   It is simply ludicrous that people think they can...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:32pm
everyking   It is simply ludicrous that people think they ca...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:40pm
Pumpkin Muffins   It is simply ludicrous that people think they can...   Tue 13th January 2009, 11:43pm
Anonymous editor   reading the thread. Spot on.   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:01pm
EricBarbour   It's good to see that more people are startin...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:05pm
written by he who wrote it   Clearly she's fed up with FT2's inability ...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:09pm
Anonymous editor   Clearly she's fed up with FT2's inability...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:17pm
written by he who wrote it   [quote name='written by he who wrote it' post='15...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:27pm
Bottled_Spider   My guess is that she hopes the heat of a massive...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:44pm
Anonymous editor   [quote name='Anonymous editor' post='151014' date...   Tue 13th January 2009, 11:44pm
written by he who wrote it   [quote name='Anonymous editor' post='151014' dat...   Wed 14th January 2009, 12:52am
Kelly Martin   [quote name='Bottled_Spider' post='151042' date='T...   Wed 14th January 2009, 1:03am
Bottled_Spider   [quote name='Anonymous editor' post='151014' dat...   Wed 14th January 2009, 11:47am
Anonymous editor   Yes. So you've been saying. A lot. Which is f...   Wed 14th January 2009, 9:27pm
Bottled_Spider   [quote name='Bottled_Spider' post='151134' date='...   Wed 14th January 2009, 10:47pm
Dzonatas   I'm surprised the unblock hasn't been take...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:19pm
sarcasticidealist   I'm surprised the unblock hasn't been take...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:21pm
SirFozzie   [quote name='Dzonatas' post='151015' date='Tue 13...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:23pm
Dzonatas   [quote name='Dzonatas' post='151015' date='Tue 13...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:29pm
trenton   I'm surprised the unblock hasn't been tak...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:22pm
Black Kite   I'm surprised the unblock hasn't been tak...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:30pm
Dzonatas   I'm surprised the unblock hasn't been ta...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:39pm
SirFozzie   That is the first time I've seen ANI full prot...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:20pm
Anonymous editor   agree   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:21pm
Anonymous editor   sarcasticidealist (who is here and I'm sure wi...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:23pm
sarcasticidealist   sarcasticidealist (who is here and I'm sure wi...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:26pm
EricBarbour   damn, this is one hot topic. FT2 finally did it....   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:25pm
SirFozzie   Jimbo has already stated he's not going to act...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:42pm
Moulton   [quote name='Black Kite' post='151030' date='Tue 1...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:50pm
everyking   Durova's summary in the RfAr is excellent. She...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:47pm
Bottled_Spider   Durova's summary in the RfAr is excellent. No...   Tue 13th January 2009, 11:08pm
Viridae   It is simply ludicrous that people think they can...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:52pm
Hipocrite   It doesn't take 2 months to answer a simple ye...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:55pm
Viridae   Oh every time I go away for a day or two a huge dr...   Tue 13th January 2009, 10:58pm
SirFozzie   Oh every time I go away for a day or two a huge d...   Tue 13th January 2009, 11:06pm
Dzonatas   Guess FT2 could be like that guard that shot Grant...   Tue 13th January 2009, 11:08pm
Somey   Guess FT2 could be like that guard that shot Grant...   Tue 13th January 2009, 11:16pm
Dzonatas   The RFArb seems to call this an attempt to desysop...   Tue 13th January 2009, 11:19pm
Cla68   If no one has said so already, I'll point out ...   Tue 13th January 2009, 11:27pm
cyofee   Desperate times call for desperate measures. Poli...   Tue 13th January 2009, 11:31pm
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Cla68   Has anyone linked to this statement by Thatcher ye...   Wed 14th January 2009, 1:10am
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Milton Roe   Aha - SV has filed this http://en.wikipedia.or...   Wed 14th January 2009, 11:55am
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Milton Roe   Why the hell does the same person have two differ...   Wed 14th January 2009, 7:23pm
Friday   The issue of which account was used seems like a t...   Wed 14th January 2009, 5:02pm
Dzonatas   You'd think by this time the forum would be ta...   Wed 14th January 2009, 5:39pm
sarcasticidealist   Though the case looks likely to be rejected, Fayss...   Wed 14th January 2009, 6:19pm
GlassBeadGame   Though the case looks likely to be rejected, [url...   Wed 14th January 2009, 6:29pm
Viridae   [quote name='sarcasticidealist' post='151140' dat...   Wed 14th January 2009, 8:40pm
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Cla68   FT2 has posted a letter of resignation on Jimbo...   Thu 15th January 2009, 7:42am
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Kato   Hey - we can play my bingo derived Wikipedia Flash...   Thu 15th January 2009, 4:33pm
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