Bishonen indef-blocks FT2, Holy crap, he hasn't been desysopped by Jimbo Options

[trenton]

I'm surprised the unblock hasn't been taken to ArbCom for the wheel-war bit.

Hypocrisy at a finest.

The block should have been labeled as "Arbitration Enforcement"

[SirFozzie]

I'm surprised the unblock hasn't been taken to ArbCom for the wheel-war bit.

As far as I am aware, nobody has ever been sanctioned for wheel-warring for undoing a single admin action (that hadn't already been undone). According to the letter of [[WP:WHEEL]], wheel-warring doesn't actually start until somebody redoes an admin action that has already been undone once, and I believe that's usually how it's enforced (when it's enforced).

Correct. There's an additional caveat , however, that undoing an Arbitration Committee Action (or an ArbCom Enforcement action, which by default is an arbitration action) unilaterally without discussion is considered a "Real Bad Thing." (That came out recently)

[Anonymous editor]

sarcasticidealist (who is here and I'm sure will comment) put AN/I back on semi-protection.

also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...otection_of_ANI

This post has been edited by Anonymous editor: Tue 13th January 2009, 10:27pm

[EricBarbour]

damn, this is one hot topic.

FT2 finally did it. He's become the OJ Simpson of Arbcom.

[Sarcasticidealist]

sarcasticidealist (who is here and I'm sure will comment) put AN/I back on semi-protection.

I actually misunderstood Tznkai's protection summary ("temporary halting high traffic to subpage"). I thought he meant that he was halting high traffic *to* a subpage (that being ANI). It didn't occur to me that "subpage" could be used as a verb. If I'd understood his summary properly, I wouldn't have unprotected. Oh well.

This post has been edited by sarcasticidealist: Tue 13th January 2009, 10:27pm

[written by he who wrote it]

Clearly she's fed up with FT2's inability (or deliberate refusal) to give a straightforward answer to an apparently simple question. My guess is that she hopes the heat of a massive dramafest will force him to either answer or bail.

I'm struggling to understand how she could think causing a huge dramafest is a positive result. What is her goal here?

To shine a big effin' spotlight on FT2's bad behavior? To force FT2, and the arbcom, to quit stalling and either admit to misuse of oversight or explain why it wasn't actually a misuse? It's MeatBall:DirectAction.

[wikiwhistle]

It is simply ludicrous that people think they can solve problems like this. Yes, FT2 is obviously unfit to be an arbitrator, and arguably unfit to hold any position of responsibility on the site. But for Bishonen to swoop in and ban him based solely on her own say-so? It's just incredible to me that Wikipedia cannot grow out of such stupidity. FT2 is a long-standing contributor and any decision about blocking him should be based on the will of the community, not a single admin's say-so. Regardless of what happens to FT2, Bishonen (and/or her dinosaur alter-ego) should be desysopped.

It is bullying IMHO, what reason did she give? No-one can say he's disruptive, exceptionally, as an editor.

This post has been edited by wikiwhistle: Tue 13th January 2009, 10:29pm

[Dzonatas]

I'm surprised the unblock hasn't been taken to ArbCom for the wheel-war bit.

As far as I am aware, nobody has ever been sanctioned for wheel-warring for undoing a single admin action (that hadn't already been undone). According to the letter of [[WP:WHEEL]], wheel-warring doesn't actually start until somebody redoes an admin action that has already been undone once, and I believe that's usually how it's enforced (when it's enforced).

Found the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...am_M._Connolley

[Milton Roe]

I hope Bishonen thought long and hard about the amount of heat she's about to take before she did this.

Yeah, as in

Shame the flaming Godzilla version of Bish never made it to sysop, or the block could have been done by "it" as an even more drawwhmaitc move. Zoophilia fought with a radioactive Japanese monstermovie creature. Hmmm. Appropriate.

[Black Kite]

I'm surprised the unblock hasn't been taken to ArbCom for the wheel-war bit.

Well, sort of

This post has been edited by Black Kite: Tue 13th January 2009, 10:31pm

[Anonymous editor]

I hope Bishonen thought long and hard about the amount of heat she's about to take before she did this.

Yeah, as in

Shame the flaming Godzilla version of Bish never made it to sysop, or the block could have been done by "it" as an even more drawwhmaitc move. Zoophilia fought with a radioactive Japanese monstermovie creature. Hmmm. Appropriate.

the block was done by Bishzilla. Bishonen doesn't perform admin activities except through her sock.

[Sarcasticidealist]

Shame the flaming Godzilla version of Bish never made it to sysop, or the block could have been done by "it"

It was done by it - she had the bit transferred.

[JoseClutch]

It is simply ludicrous that people think they can solve problems like this. Yes, FT2 is obviously unfit to be an arbitrator, and arguably unfit to hold any position of responsibility on the site. But for Bishonen to swoop in and ban him based solely on her own say-so? It's just incredible to me that Wikipedia cannot grow out of such stupidity. FT2 is a long-standing contributor and any decision about blocking him should be based on the will of the community, not a single admin's say-so. Regardless of what happens to FT2, Bishonen (and/or her dinosaur alter-ego) should be desysopped.

I never would have expect to see you in the "longstanding contributors should be unaccountable for their actions" crowd, who seem to be the ones advocating this hogwash.

[Milton Roe]

Shame the flaming Godzilla version of Bish never made it to sysop, or the block could have been done by "it"

It was done by it - she had the bit transferred.

Yikes. Should have checked. Too many times when I parody or satirize WP for the lulz, I find the real thing has already equalled or outdone me.

[Dzonatas]

I'm surprised the unblock hasn't been taken to ArbCom for the wheel-war bit.

Well, sort of

*gasp*

Statement by Jehochman

I suggest the entire matter be sent to Jimbo for sorting. The Committee is not competent to handle this matter, or they would have done so already. Jehochman Talk 22:37, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

[everyking]

It is simply ludicrous that people think they can solve problems like this. Yes, FT2 is obviously unfit to be an arbitrator, and arguably unfit to hold any position of responsibility on the site. But for Bishonen to swoop in and ban him based solely on her own say-so? It's just incredible to me that Wikipedia cannot grow out of such stupidity. FT2 is a long-standing contributor and any decision about blocking him should be based on the will of the community, not a single admin's say-so. Regardless of what happens to FT2, Bishonen (and/or her dinosaur alter-ego) should be desysopped.

I never would have expect to see you in the "longstanding contributors should be unaccountable for their actions" crowd, who seem to be the ones advocating this hogwash.

Accountable to the community. Not to Bishonen acting as an individual admin. Bishonen could propose action to the community, but it's unacceptable for her to make the judgment and carry out the sentence without any community deliberation.

[SirFozzie]

Jimbo has already stated he's not going to act on this.

[Bottled_Spider]

My guess is that she hopes the heat of a massive dramafest will force him to either answer or bail.

I'm struggling to understand how she could think causing a huge dramafest is a positive result. What is her goal here?

Erm ........... She hopes the heat of a massive dramafest will force him to either answer or bail? No? Yes? Hello? Jesus.........

[everyking]

Durova's summary in the RfAr is excellent. She correctly observes that any action against FT2 should be taken after due deliberation and not on the say-so of a lone admin. She even points out Bishonen's inappropriate use of a joke account to carry out admin actions.

[Moulton]

I'm surprised the unblock hasn't been taken to ArbCom for the wheel-war bit.

Well, sort of

*gasp*

Statement by Jehochman

I suggest the entire matter be sent to Jimbo for sorting. The Committee is not competent to handle this matter, or they would have done so already. Jehochman Talk 22:37, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Jimbo has already stated he's not going to act on this.

This scenario is exemplary of what I call a Polionic System.