Bishonen indef-blocks FT2, Holy crap, he hasn't been desysopped by Jimbo Options

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This post has been edited by Anonymous editor: Tue 13th January 2009, 9:34pm

[Somey]

Good thing he already has a WR account! That should save him some time.

[Anonymous editor]

unblocked 10 minutes later by another admin.

This post has been edited by Anonymous editor: Tue 13th January 2009, 9:40pm

[trenton]

....and unblocked by crony Scarian...

Incidentally anybody want to start a pool on the word count of FT2's "clarification"? My guess is 20,404 words which will probably amount to the Essjay defense of "I had to lie to protect myself and my family from the uber-evil WR stalkers"

[Kelly Martin]

I guess the WikiDramaQuotient (WDQ) had dropped too low, what with the ArbCom elections being over and all.

[Peter Damian]

F--- I was just going to bed how dare she do that.

[Bottled_Spider]

This is going to be fun.

[SirFozzie]

.... WHAFUCK????

15 edit conflicts before I could post.

ANI Go Boom!

I hope Bishonen thought long and hard about the amount of heat she's about to take before she did this.

This post has been edited by SirFozzie: Tue 13th January 2009, 9:59pm

[everyking]

It is simply ludicrous that people think they can solve problems like this. Yes, FT2 is obviously unfit to be an arbitrator, and arguably unfit to hold any position of responsibility on the site. But for Bishonen to swoop in and ban him based solely on her own say-so? It's just incredible to me that Wikipedia cannot grow out of such stupidity. FT2 is a long-standing contributor and any decision about blocking him should be based on the will of the community, not a single admin's say-so. Regardless of what happens to FT2, Bishonen (and/or her dinosaur alter-ego) should be desysopped.

[Dzonatas]

....and unblocked by crony Scarian...

Incidentally anybody want to start a pool on the word count of FT2's "clarification"? My guess is 20,404 words which will probably amount to the Essjay defense of "I had to lie to protect myself and my family from the uber-evil WR stalkers"

I thought there was an ArbCom decision that admins shouldn't undo actions of other admins because it would be a wheel-war and lead to suspension of sysop bits and such. (Connely & George)

[Anonymous editor]

reading the thread.

Obviously Bish has just heavily invested in popcorn stocks and is trying to make a quick return on investment. *munch* –xeno (talk) 21:48, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Damned right. Pass the salt. GbT/c 21:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Spot on.

[cyofee]

It is simply ludicrous that people think they can solve problems like this. Yes, FT2 is obviously unfit to be an arbitrator, and arguably unfit to hold any position of responsibility on the site. But for Bishonen to swoop in and ban him based solely on her own say-so? It's just incredible to me that Wikipedia cannot grow out of such stupidity. FT2 is a long-standing contributor and any decision about blocking him should be based on the will of the community, not a single admin's say-so. Regardless of what happens to FT2, Bishonen (and/or her dinosaur alter-ego) should be desysopped.

Bishonen just followed WP:BOLD.

This post has been edited by cyofee: Tue 13th January 2009, 10:03pm

[EricBarbour]

FT2 is an obvious kook, and makes the entire project look ridiculous. It only shows how poorly things work here that he could get any position of responsibility, much less keep it for any length of time. However, I can't imagine this block will stick, and I can see all manner of drama ensuing. I think social ostracism works better than a block in cases like this. Friday (talk) 21:31, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I seriously think Bishonen should start an RFC on FT2. Blocking him like this is punitive. The encyclopedia isn't being damaged with him editing it. Majorly talk 21:33, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm not exactly sure what good this is supposed to do. What exactly is the block going to prevent - and if we're going to be creative - what behavior, practice, norm, policy, or principle is being assuaged here?--Tznkai (talk) 21:34, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
WP:RFC time. Gwen Gale (talk) 21:35, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Friday, please don't throw around terms like "kook". This is a delicate matter and inflammatory words might only cause problems. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:39, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

It's good to see that more people are starting to talk about FT2's insane behaviour.
He still has his brown-nosers, but general opinion seems to be moving against him.

About time, after FIVE YEARS of his backstabbing and meaningless verbal diarrhea.....

Hah! 13 votes of confidence, 63 votes of no confidence.....

This post has been edited by EricBarbour: Tue 13th January 2009, 10:23pm

[written by he who wrote it]

Clearly she's fed up with FT2's inability (or deliberate refusal) to give a straightforward answer to an apparently simple question. My guess is that she hopes the heat of a massive dramafest will force him to either answer or bail.

[SirFozzie]

It is simply ludicrous that people think they can solve problems like this. Yes, FT2 is obviously unfit to be an arbitrator, and arguably unfit to hold any position of responsibility on the site. But for Bishonen to swoop in and ban him based solely on her own say-so? It's just incredible to me that Wikipedia cannot grow out of such stupidity. FT2 is a long-standing contributor and any decision about blocking him should be based on the will of the community, not a single admin's say-so. Regardless of what happens to FT2, Bishonen (and/or her dinosaur alter-ego) should be desysopped.

Bishonen just followed WP:BOLD.

There's also been WP:REVERT, and now we're on WP:DISCUSSing how unnecessarily BOLD and ill-advised it was.

This post has been edited by SirFozzie: Tue 13th January 2009, 10:14pm

[Anonymous editor]

Clearly she's fed up with FT2's inability (or deliberate refusal) to give a straightforward answer to an apparently simple question. My guess is that she hopes the heat of a massive dramafest will force him to either answer or bail.

I'm struggling to understand how she could think causing a huge dramafest is a positive result. What is her goal here?

[Dzonatas]

I'm surprised the unblock hasn't been taken to ArbCom for the wheel-war bit.

Hypocrisy at a finest.

[SirFozzie]

That is the first time I've seen ANI full protected due to excessive usage.

[Sarcasticidealist]

I'm surprised the unblock hasn't been taken to ArbCom for the wheel-war bit.

As far as I am aware, nobody has ever been sanctioned for wheel-warring for undoing a single admin action (that hadn't already been undone). According to the letter of [[WP:WHEEL]], wheel-warring doesn't actually start until somebody redoes an admin action that has already been undone once, and I believe that's usually how it's enforced (when it's enforced).

[Anonymous editor]

You know, time was we blocked editors for disruption. Blocking to get attention and make a fuss doesn't seem very sensible to me. --TS 21:51, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

agree