Simple English Wikipedia, 50 times smaller, but still more stupid Options

[FurWissen2]

The Simple Wikipedia is about 50 times smaller than English Wikipedia, but the unprofessional behavior of the editors, the policies, and the way the policies are enforced are idiotic. Most editors there are Western European kids who have nothing to do. The Wikipedia lovers abound there, people who are extremely opposed to changes in Wikipedia, administrators who are hasty to use the tools when not completely informed about a situation, and people who are just immature.

The people there worship Wikipedia. Most of them hardly ever question policy, they instead blindly follow it as if it's dogma. The ones that frequently appear demonstrate their lack of seriousness and consideration for the real-life consequences of Wikipedia, by treating a collaborative website of its nature as a game, competitions like the WikiCup being obsessed over. Also see how the Simple Wikipedians are objecting so highly to flagged revisions, though they seem to provide no rational argument against it. They all just act like a bunch of inconsiderate children that have been indoctrinated into Wikipedia at a young age. I have nothing against children, though they should learn about the consequences of allowing Wikipedia biographies to remain so unmonitored, with such a small amount of regulation before they go spouting "All for the Wiki" propaganda. I was browsing the Christopher Columbus article and I saw something about him reaching Pelham, New York instead of India (when he actually came to a Bahamian island). It was there for three months. What if that was a biography being vandalized with plausible, but false, information?

I will continue...

[Razorflame]

Sorry, but I do not crave power and I am not a "child". I will have you know that I am over 18 years old.

Razorflame

[Bottled_Spider]

Sorry, but I do not crave power

Of course. Ten failed attempts at power is not, repeat not, a craving. Twelve, maybe. Fifteen, tops. Those guys and their accusations, eh?

and I am not a "child". I will have you know that I am over 18 years old.

Harrumph! Harrumph!!! Dog years? Let's face it, mate. Simple Wikipedia is not for you. Too complicated, and you're about as welcome there as the proverbial fart in a spacesuit. Give it up, eh?!

[Alex]

Sorry, but I do not crave power

Of course. Ten failed attempts at power is not, repeat not, a craving. Twelve, maybe. Fifteen, tops. Those guys and their accusations, eh?

and I am not a "child". I will have you know that I am over 18 years old.

Harrumph! Harrumph!!! Dog years? Let's face it, mate. Simple Wikipedia is not for you. Too complicated, and you're about as welcome there as the proverbial fart in a spacesuit. Give it up, eh?!

"Bottled Spider" - how about you go back in your bottle and put the lid on so no one can hear you, because no one gives a fuck what you think? What do you know about the project anyway? Very little by the sound of it.

Please crawl back under the rock from where you came from, thx.

This whole thread is hilarious. Why all the whining about a project you obviously all hate? Have you not got better ways to spend your lives, other than bitching about people and their hobbies? Oh... didn't think so.

Sorry, but I do not crave power and I am not a "child". I will have you know that I am over 18 years old.

Razorflame

Razor, I recommend you don't try arguing with the children here. Children always want their own way, whether they're right or wrong. Just carry on on Simple and ignore the trolls here. Some people here have legitimate criticisism, others don't. You've found the ones that don't.

[Somey]

This whole thread is hilarious. Why all the whining about a project you obviously all hate? Have you not got better ways to spend your lives, other than bitching about people and their hobbies?

You always react this way, Mr. Majorly. Why is that?

I'll start considering it a "hobby" when Wikipedia stops getting preferential Google rankings and allows the rest of the internet to develop organically in the way it should have all along, with responsible idiots writing relative stable content instead of irresponsible idiots writing totally non-stable content. Until then, I'm afraid it's not a "hobby," it's a "vicious attack on our fundamental cultural values."

[Alex]

This whole thread is hilarious. Why all the whining about a project you obviously all hate? Have you not got better ways to spend your lives, other than bitching about people and their hobbies?

You always react this way, Mr. Majorly. Why is that?

I'll start considering it a "hobby" when Wikipedia stops getting preferential Google rankings and allows the rest of the internet to develop organically in the way it should have all along, with responsible idiots writing relative stable content instead of irresponsible idiots writing totally non-stable content. Until then, I'm afraid it's not a "hobby," it's a "vicious attack on our fundamental cultural values."

I joined this forum during the Essjay controversy. It was interesting to read, and discuss, and I became more of a regular here later in the year. As of late, all this place seems to be is petty bitching from a bunch of angry and cynical individuals, with nothing better to do with their time. I can't believe people care that much about Simple.wp. Yes, it is a bit of a joke sometimes, but most of the editors are good decent people who care about the project. This place is becoming a joke. It seems every other thread is an attack on me or something/someone I like, mostly baseless mud slinging for the sake of it. I spent the last month refraining from posting; as each day goes by, this place gets worse and worse. I'm not the only one who thinks this, and has stopped regularly posting.

And FYI, CheckUser requests are often closed early, and mine was closed totally within policy.

[dogbiscuit]

I joined this forum during the Essjay controversy. It was interesting to read, and discuss, and I became more of a regular here later in the year. As of late, all this place seems to be is petty bitching from a bunch of angry and cynical individuals, with nothing better to do with their time. I can't believe people care that much about Simple.wp. Yes, it is a bit of a joke sometimes, but most of the editors are good decent people who care about the project. This place is becoming a joke. It seems every other thread is an attack on me or something/someone I like, mostly baseless mud slinging for the sake of it. I spent the last month refraining from posting; as each day goes by, this place gets worse and worse. I'm not the only one who thinks this, and has stopped regularly posting.

And FYI, CheckUser requests are often closed early, and mine was closed totally within policy.

The problem with Simple is that nobody understands what a Simple English Encyclopedia is intended to be, least of all the simpletons who think that it must be easy to write a Simple English encyclopeida without understanding how to write plain English, let alone simple English.

The leadership of that project might gain some respect if they spent a bit of time defining the parameters of the task rather than herding the gerbils over the cliffs.

It is a difficult task and requires good communication skills which your average teenager is unlikely to have. Unfortunately, it seems to be seen as a toy encyclopedia rather than a means to being the flagship version targeted at say Jimbo's dusty child. I bet if you asked half the editors what they were up to, they would not have the wit to know it was supposed to be an encyclopedia for those with limited language skills, but not necessarily limited intelligence.

Forget about Wikipedia governance games, and if you really are committed to the project rather than Wikipedia - Teh Game, spend a few weeks getting some writing guides into shape, and work out how to put together a writing tutorial or online seminars. Oh, and find someone who does know about Simple English and implement flagged revisions, even if that means there are only 5 articles worthy of flagging.

[Eva Destruction]

The problem with Simple is that nobody understands what a Simple English Encyclopedia is intended to be, least of all the simpletons who think that it must be easy to write a Simple English encyclopeida without understanding how to write plain English, let alone simple English.

The leadership of that project might gain some respect if they spent a bit of time defining the parameters of the task rather than herding the gerbils over the cliffs.

It is a difficult task and requires good communication skills which your average teenager is unlikely to have.

↑ What he said. Explaining things in simple terms is usually harder than in technical terms (go read the manual for any piece of electronic equipment, with the honorable exception of Apple, to see for yourself), otherwise we'd write the whole of Wikipedia in simple English. I'm not saying you (Alex) are necessarily one of them, but too many people see Simple Wikipedia as "Training Wheels Wikipedia" and use it as a dumping ground for Wikipedia's cranks and nutjobs ('Your "this band is so cool" article isn't what we're looking for, have you tried Simple?' or 'Your writing style is terrible, go try Simple').

For example, as I write this your main page includes "A baseball uniform is a special kind of uniform that baseball players wear. They mostly do this to show that their job is related to playing the sport, baseball." This isn't "simple English", this is "patronising English"; the "real" Wikipedia article starts off with "A baseball uniform is a type of uniform worn by baseball players", which is simpler than Simple's version.