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Kato
post Sun 15th February 2009, 7:13am
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It turns out that JzG is up to his old tricks in the quieter environment of the Spam Blacklist.

Apparently, last month, he unilaterally placed a couple of legitimate links on the "Spam blacklist" to enforce some content dispute he was involved in over Cold Fusion.

Funnily enough, he did this shortly after I theorized here:

QUOTE(Kato @ Sat 27th December 2008, 6:16pm) *

JzG has always been paranoid/obsessed/fixated with arbitrary bits of information which he alone judges to be "spam".

This "spam" notion is so riddled with discrepancies, anomalies and hypocrisies that only JzG has been able to fathom it.

Anything he comes across at any given time can potentially be removed by him as "spam". And the editor who added the removed material can quickly be denounced as someone "not cut out to be a Wikipedian" and may be added to his enemy list.



Some well respected spam supervisor bod picked him up on it (He actually wrote several scathing posts to JzG):

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...energytimes.com

QUOTE(Abd to JzG bolding mine)
Blocking and banning people who hold a minority position and advocate it is highly unlikely to improve the encyclopedia; it's more likely to make it dull and less useful. When I'm researching a topic, I want to know about the minority positions, in an NPOV but relatively complete manner, not just majority views.

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[JzG]'s been asked to revert the blacklisting on the grounds of conflict of interest, if nothing else, and he's refused. So ... we will now see if it is legitimate to make "fringe" arguments and RS arguments in blacklisting, if mission creep has overcome the restraints on the blacklists, and if an administrator can protect his own edits to an article by blacklisting. If that's happened, broader community attention will be necessary, I'm afraid. This part of this affair could end quickly, right here. --Abd (talk) 22:45, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

and sums up
QUOTE(Abd to JzG)
[this is] not the mission of the blacklist; instead, it was here used outside its mission by an administrator with clear involvement, in promotion of his "anti-fringe" POV, not in pursuit of true NPOV and balance, on the face of it, but of a "side."


JzG responds in the way only he knows how:
QUOTE(JzG)
Perhaps we can think again if we ever get rid of the ring of POV-pushers, but the fringe types are too much of a problem right now, they got far too embedded and lots of folks are having to work very hard to pick apart all their nonsense and move back towards policy compliance on several articles. Guy (Help!) 21:05, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


So JzG is doing this all over again. Abd's assessment of JzG here could be applied to a dozen conflicts initiated by JzG in the past, word-for-word. Surely this berserker should be banned by now?
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post Sun 15th February 2009, 1:24pm
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As Wiki tragicomedy goes, Guy's involvement in the Cold Fusion moshpit is moderately interesting.

Abd's summing-up of Mr. Angry's performance is here; the associated talkpage, complete with a nice Guy whine is here. Abd's reply is rather long-winded - all he needed to say was "In short, JzG, you screwed up", which he did.

Imagine the drama if JzG went temporarily insane® and blocked Abd for his impertinence. I'll pay someone money if they can engineer that.
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QUOTE(Bottled_Spider @ Sun 15th February 2009, 6:24am) *

Imagine the drama if JzG went temporarily insane® and blocked Abd for his impertinence.


In my opinion this you demand the impossible.

Or maybe you've simply misspelled "temporary sane"?
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Kato   JzG up to his old tricks on the Spam Blacklist   Sun 15th February 2009, 7:13am
Moulton   We need an Awbreyesque label for this abusive prac...   Sun 15th February 2009, 10:21am
Eva Destruction   User:Abd may be many things, but "well respec...   Sun 15th February 2009, 11:36am
Viridae   I have been watching this unfold.   Sun 15th February 2009, 11:52am
Moulton   [url=http://knol.google.com/k/barry-kort/chiastory...   Sun 15th February 2009, 12:36pm
Bottled_Spider   Imagine the drama if JzG went temporarily insaneÂ...   Mon 16th February 2009, 7:42pm
dtobias   This is rather old news now. JzG's general at...   Sun 15th February 2009, 2:47pm
Bottled_Spider   JzG's general attitude, in this and other issu...   Sun 15th February 2009, 3:01pm
Milton Roe   This is rather old news now. JzG's general a...   Mon 16th February 2009, 8:17pm
Cla68   More on the issue. I haven't formed an opinio...   Tue 17th February 2009, 7:08am
Kato   More on the issue. I haven't formed an opini...   Tue 17th February 2009, 7:21am
Milton Roe   How long before JzG storms off again in a fit of ...   Tue 17th February 2009, 7:37am
Castle Rock   How long before JzG storms off again in a fit of...   Tue 17th February 2009, 9:19am
dtobias   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Admin...   Tue 17th February 2009, 1:10pm
Jon Awbrey   He also has accused Abd of having a "hobby h...   Tue 17th February 2009, 1:22pm
dtobias   See Also • Necrozoophilia Redirects to Zoosa...   Tue 17th February 2009, 1:27pm
Milton Roe   [quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='156833' date='Tue ...   Tue 17th February 2009, 6:59pm
EricBarbour   At least Abd is honest. This is charming. This...   Sun 15th February 2009, 11:39pm
Kato   This appears to be a case of one crazy bastard ver...   Sun 15th February 2009, 11:43pm
Jon Awbrey   It turns out that JzG is up to his old tricks in ...   Mon 16th February 2009, 2:44am
Kato   Classic JzG: Has JzG's outrageous hypocrisy...   Tue 17th February 2009, 10:51am
Bottled_Spider   JzG. His mind beats time like clockwork. I like t...   Tue 17th February 2009, 11:35am
Moulton   [url=http://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/pr...   Tue 17th February 2009, 12:58pm
Piperdown   Has Cade Metz done a piece yet on Wikipedia's ...   Tue 17th February 2009, 6:04pm
EricBarbour   Jossi's out Slim's doing her bi-annual lay...   Tue 17th February 2009, 8:37pm
Jon Awbrey   Guy will win first place by acclimation. [b][co...   Tue 17th February 2009, 9:00pm
Milton Roe   Guy will win first place by [b]acclimation. [b...   Tue 17th February 2009, 9:06pm
Bottled_Spider   Perhaps if he took that helmet off his brain might...   Tue 17th February 2009, 10:23pm
Piperdown   And his battle with Hu12 is reaching a new level ...   Wed 18th February 2009, 2:27am
Apathetic   The phrase TL;DR was invented because of Abd   Tue 17th February 2009, 8:30pm
Abd   The phrase TL;DR was invented because of Abd No...   Wed 8th April 2009, 2:13pm
Viridae   Jossi's out Slim's doing her bi-annual la...   Tue 17th February 2009, 8:56pm
Kato   Is this JzG admitting to a Conflict of Interest ov...   Wed 18th February 2009, 1:14am
Piperdown   JzG has flouted just about every other policy in ...   Wed 18th February 2009, 2:37am
dtobias   Jzg is the Eric Cartman of Wikipedia. And Jimbo ...   Wed 18th February 2009, 4:04am
dtobias   Is this a professorial chair? http://upload.wikim...   Wed 18th February 2009, 1:38am
Kato   Ask JzG. He just wrote the article tonight, presum...   Wed 18th February 2009, 1:42am
Abd   So JzG is doing this [i]all over again. Abd...   Wed 8th April 2009, 1:51pm
Milton Roe   So JzG is doing this [i]all over again. Abd...   Wed 8th April 2009, 8:08pm
Abd   Try splitting the above into double the number o...   Fri 10th April 2009, 4:07pm
Fritz   [quote name='Abd' post='166794' date='Wed 8th Apr...   Thu 16th April 2009, 12:04pm
gadfly   It isn't that people aren't interested in...   Thu 16th April 2009, 1:10pm
Abd   [quote name='Fritz' post='168555' date='Thu 16th ...   Thu 16th April 2009, 3:59pm
Milton Roe   [quote name='gadfly' post='168558' date='Thu 16th...   Thu 16th April 2009, 10:34pm
dtobias   B. Pascal gets historical precidence! I use...   Thu 16th April 2009, 10:45pm
Milton Roe   B. Pascal gets historical precidence! I us...   Thu 16th April 2009, 10:50pm
Fritz   [quote name='Abd' post='166794' date='Wed 8th Ap...   Thu 16th April 2009, 1:12pm
Jon Awbrey   Oh, please, please, I beg of you — say "del...   Wed 8th April 2009, 2:02pm


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