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Kato
post Sun 15th February 2009, 7:36am
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How does user Calton (T-C-L-K-R-D) get away with having a user page like that?

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The above obviously includes the various trolls, spammers, quacks, greedheads, and crackpots -- and their enablers -- who hang out at ED and WR. I also seem to have attracted the unwanted attention of a crackpot spamming "psychologist" calling himself "Wyatt Ehrenfels", that indefinitely banned (for good reason) spammer Gregory Kohser, and various indefinitely banned anger-management poster children. If you're one of the those various trolls, spammers, quacks, greedheads, crackpots, and/or their enablers, welcome! Now get lost.


This is just a blatant attack on two named Wikipedians.

He's already been blocked a number of times for "Persistent incivility and taunting of other users".
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post Sun 15th February 2009, 10:27am
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QUOTE(Kato @ Sun 15th February 2009, 7:36am) *

How does user Calton (T-C-L-K-R-D) get away with having a user page like that?

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The above obviously includes the various trolls, spammers, quacks, greedheads, and crackpots -- and their enablers -- who hang out at ED and WR. I also seem to have attracted the unwanted attention of a crackpot spamming "psychologist" calling himself "Wyatt Ehrenfels", that indefinitely banned (for good reason) spammer Gregory Kohser, and various indefinitely banned anger-management poster children. If you're one of the those various trolls, spammers, quacks, greedheads, crackpots, and/or their enablers, welcome! Now get lost.


This is just a blatant attack on two named Wikipedians.

He's already been blocked a number of times for "Persistent incivility and taunting of other users".


It seems that others have objected to it before but for some reason it has been allowed to remain. I thought giving a free pass to certain admins to insult banned editors by their real names was no longer allowed in Wikipedia. I guess I was wrong.
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post Sun 15th February 2009, 11:29am
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Calton isn't an admin, but the fact that it was reverted back to about 7-8 times is astonishing.

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post Sun 15th February 2009, 1:45pm
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Since Kato's post of 7:36am (UTC) the offending text has been :
[1] Removed by IP 78.102.45.128. First post using that IP, but apparently the Feds know who it is.
[2] Replaced by admin Gb (T-C-L-K-R-D) (This user has an alternate account here for use on public or shared computers). See fun fun fun on talkpage. Heh.
[3] Removed again by very semi-retired admin Alison (T-C-L-K-R-D) . This is a privacy/BLP issue as far as she's concerned. So there.
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post Sun 15th February 2009, 2:03pm
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QUOTE(Calton)
spammer Gregory Kohser

Does Calton get off on the technicality of failing to publish the correct name of that villainously vile miscreant and reprehensible reprobate, Greg Kohs?
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post Sun 15th February 2009, 2:45pm
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How disappointing--I thought Calton had left after he was blocked for one of his temper tantrums late last year. Anyway, isn't he supposed to be under some kind of civility restriction? Wasn't that agreed on ANI?
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post Sun 15th February 2009, 6:28pm
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QUOTE(everyking @ Sun 15th February 2009, 2:45pm) *

How disappointing--I thought Calton had left after he was blocked for one of his temper tantrums late last year. Anyway, isn't he supposed to be under some kind of civility restriction? Wasn't that agreed on ANI?


I figured by his imperious behavior that Calton was an admin. Anyway, it looks like Calton was trying to shame Greg and the other guy by naming them on his userpage. Absolutely bush league behavior. The only thing more embarrassing to see is that a few admins were trying to help him do it.

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post Sun 15th February 2009, 8:47pm
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QUOTE(Bottled_Spider @ Sun 15th February 2009, 1:45pm) *

Drama Report
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Since Kato's post of 7:36am (UTC) the offending text has been :
[1] Removed by IP 78.102.45.128. First post using that IP, but apparently the Feds know who it is.
[2] Replaced by admin Gb (T-C-L-K-R-D) (This user has an alternate account here for use on public or shared computers). See fun fun fun on talkpage. Heh.
[3] Removed again by very semi-retired admin Alison (T-C-L-K-R-D) . This is a privacy/BLP issue as far as she's concerned. So there.


So Alison has made it stick. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (T-C-L-K-R-D) removed the same offense 3 times in a 3 week period. He was reverted each time by an admin and was thanked with a 48 hour block for disruption.

This is a guy who's been around for 3 years (albeit with a 2 year break in the middle), and spends virtually all his time repairing biographies of living people. Arbcom dickhead Coren declines his first unblock request with the rationale "the blocking admin makes a good argument that your behavior has been nonetheless disruptive."

The second unblock request begins with "I'm sorry. This is Kafkaesque. It is not disputed that I did not make the edit for which I was blocked." The very special Sandahl replies "You say you are Kafkaesque, if you are User:Kafkaesque you need to need to make this unblock request in this account name."

If any of you wikipediacs are looking to be nudged towards thw WP exit, here you go.
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post Sun 15th February 2009, 8:49pm
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Welcome to Kafkapedia.

Or is it Cacapedia?

Or Ferchachtapedia?
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post Sun 15th February 2009, 8:54pm
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QUOTE(tarantino @ Sun 15th February 2009, 1:47pm) *

The second unblock request begins with "I'm sorry. This is Kafkaesque. It is not disputed that I did not make the edit for which I was blocked." The very special Sandahl replies "You say you are Kafkaesque, if you are User:Kafkaesque you need to need to make this unblock request in this account name."

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You'll have to admit that is very funny. In a mindless, beaurocratic, machinelike Kafkaesque sort of way, of course. smile.gif

Where else can you get this sort of stuff, except maybe the military or the DMV (where we Americans go to register our cars, although our legislators don't have to use the ones we use, so they're not subjected to this. Rather the same with their health care.)
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post Sun 15th February 2009, 9:23pm
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Sun 15th February 2009, 3:49pm) *

Welcome to Kafkapedia.

Or is it Cacapedia?

Or Ferchachtapedia?



Cuckoopedia evilgrin.gif
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post Sun 15th February 2009, 10:27pm
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Well, it seems Mr. Wales himself has picked up this cause. See his comment on my talk page here. Exciting, I'm sure.

Wales also seems to think User:Gb should hand in his admin bit.[1]

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post Sun 15th February 2009, 10:39pm
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QUOTE(AuburnPilot @ Sun 15th February 2009, 10:27pm) *

Well, it seems Mr. Wales himself has picked up this cause. See his comment on my talk page here. Exciting, I'm sure.

Wales also seems to think User:Gb should hand in his admin bit.[1]

Well done, Jimbo - again.

Jimbo is fast becoming one of the most reasonable figures on WP.

I know... I can't believe it either.
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post Sun 15th February 2009, 10:58pm
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QUOTE(AuburnPilot @ Sun 15th February 2009, 10:27pm) *

Well, it seems Mr. Wales himself has picked up this cause. See his comment on my talk page here. Exciting, I'm sure.

Wales also seems to think User:Gb should hand in his admin bit.[1]

big :)

Well, that didn't take long once it was pushed up the ladder! Good job, Jimbo.

edit: AP, regarding the IP's edits, even though he may be a banned user, his actions were more appropriate than yours.

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QUOTE(tarantino @ Sun 15th February 2009, 4:58pm) *

QUOTE(AuburnPilot @ Sun 15th February 2009, 10:27pm) *

Well, it seems Mr. Wales himself has picked up this cause. See his comment on my talk page here. Exciting, I'm sure.

Wales also seems to think User:Gb should hand in his admin bit.[1]

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Well, that didn't take long once it was pushed up the ladder! Good job, Jimbo.

edit: AP, regarding the IP's edits, even though he may be a banned user, his actions were more appropriate than yours.


I didn't block User:78.102.139.57 (who you link to above). I did block User:78.102.45.141, however, and for 1 week no less. Although the two IPs are obviously the same person, I can understand the sentiment and likely wouldn't make the same block.
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post Mon 16th February 2009, 12:02am
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QUOTE(tarantino @ Sun 15th February 2009, 8:47pm) *
So Alison has made it stick. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (T-C-L-K-R-D) removed the same offense 3 times in a 3 week period. He was reverted each time by an admin and was thanked with a 48 hour block for disruption.

First block was by Calton, second by Badger Drink, third by Auburn Pilot. I know Calton isn't an admin; is Badger Drink? And Gb was the hatchet-man. What a bunch of scumbags.
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The second unblock request begins with "I'm sorry. This is Kafkaesque. It is not disputed that I did not make the edit for which I was blocked." The very special Sandahl replies "You say you are Kafkaesque, if you are User:Kafkaesque you need to need to make this unblock request in this account name."

Yes. Mr. Sandahl, who wouldn't recognize the term "Kafkaesque" as he's no fan of Kafka (being much too verbose for his tastes) is clearly a prize numptard who needs, nay, begs to have a hobnailed boot planted upside his arse. Theoretically speaking, of course.
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QUOTE(Kato @ Sun 15th February 2009, 5:39pm) *

Jimbo is fast becoming one of the most reasonable figures on WP.


...in the sense of "reasonable" as in "Be reasonable: do it my way!" (which, I believe, was the text of a Mad magazine sticker distributed as part of a sheet of clever-slogan stickers inserted into one of their 1970s giant-size special issues).

But we all think that way; for instance, I've never had the strong dislike of David Gerard many of you have, because he actually more-or-less took my side in the big BADSITES wars of a couple of years ago... which made him "reasonable" by my own definition!
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"I'm sorry. This is Kafkaesque. It is not disputed that I did not make the edit for which I was blocked."

"You say you are Kafkaesque, if you are User:Kafkaesque you need to need to make this unblock request in this account name."


The more I look at it, the more I think this priceless exchange really deserves to be immortalized. Could somebody please add it to WP:LAME so it doesn't get lost?

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Calton sez:
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QUOTE(Kato @ Sun 15th February 2009, 5:39pm) *

Jimbo is fast becoming one of the most reasonable figures on WP.
Might have something to do with the tidal wave of bullshit and edit-war his
Frankenstein creation is slowly succumbing to.
Not to mention the bad publicity.

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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 16th February 2009, 12:23am) *

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"I'm sorry. This is Kafkaesque. It is not disputed that I did not make the edit for which I was blocked."

"You say you are Kafkaesque, if you are User:Kafkaesque you need to need to make this unblock request in this account name."


The more I look at it, the more I think this priceless exchange really deserves to be immortalized. Could somebody please add it to WP:LAME so it doesn't get lost?

You're right.

When I first saw it, I thought it was someone taking the piss, but it now seems like that reply was genuine. Sandahl (T-C-L-K-R-D) really did say that in seriousness, thinking that the guy was User:Kafkaesque. Just when you think the Irony factor on Wikipedia couldn't go any further.
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