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Jon Awbrey
post Tue 3rd March 2009, 4:30am
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How Wikipedia Is Putting The Existence Of A Free Press At Risk

QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ 30 Jan 2009)

Wikipedia has shown us that a mass medium can be rendered so plastic and so well-leveraged that any part of it can be manipulated by a relatively small number of people, in ways that defy a free society's usual means to guard against it, so long as the special interests in question have a moderate amount of resources and the will to do so. If there are portions of the content that remain untouched, it is for two reasons only: (1) no one has conceived a stake in them yet, (2) virgin forest makes for good cover.

If you're thinking that Wikipedia is the Latest Thing in Blows Against The Empire, then you have a DoubleThink coming.

Jon Awbrey, Comment in The Guardian, 30 Jan 2009, 2:02am

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post Tue 17th March 2009, 11:57am
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I think proper news organisations can capitalise from the web still - I think most people realise that bloggers can be just about anyone (competitors, marketers) masquerading, there's no oversight, so there's never going to be people getting all their news from blogs.

Newspapers just need to become web-papers that's it really smile.gif

I think BBC News is the best example of news moving to the web though just about every paper publishes it's articles online now too; telegraph.co.uk guardian.co.uk dailymail.co.uk etcetc
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post Tue 17th March 2009, 12:20pm
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QUOTE(Selina @ Tue 17th March 2009, 7:57am) *

I think proper news organisations can capitalise from the web still - I think most people realise that bloggers can be just about anyone (competitors, marketers) masquerading, there's no oversight, so there's never going to be people getting all their news from blogs.

Newspapers just need to become web-papers that's it really smile.gif

I think BBC News is the best example of news moving to the web though just about every paper publishes it's articles online now too; telegraph.co.uk guardian.co.uk dailymail.co.uk etcetc


There are lots of online journals, many of them free, and there is nothing about moving to a new medium that forced any of them to start using Phony Name Authors with Multiple Personality Disorders or ArbClowns instead of Editors. Those debasements of accountability are bad habits that Wikipedia imported from Usenet and Chatville in general.

The website and newsletter of the Scholarly Publishing & Academic Resources Coalition (SPARC) are good resources for following developments in the Open Access movement.

http://www.arl.org/sparc/

http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/newsletter/03-02-09.htm

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Jon Awbrey   How Wikipedia Puts The Existence Of A Free Press At Risk   Tue 3rd March 2009, 4:30am
Daniel Brandt   Along the same lines, Web 2.0 in general is increa...   Tue 3rd March 2009, 2:02pm
Daniel Brandt   For decades, many universities in the U.S. have ha...   Tue 3rd March 2009, 6:34pm
It's the blimp, Frank   Newspaper, more than any other type of media, ha...   Sat 30th October 2010, 6:05pm
Jon Awbrey   Newspaper, more than any other type of media, ha...   Sun 31st October 2010, 1:25am
Larry Sanger   There is this thing called supply and demand, see....   Wed 3rd November 2010, 3:21am
Jon Awbrey   There is this thing called supply and demand, see...   Wed 3rd November 2010, 3:28am
emesee   so, what has to change?   Mon 16th March 2009, 3:33am
Rhindle   I wonder what Neil Postman would say about wikiped...   Mon 16th March 2009, 5:07pm
Milton Roe   I wonder what Neil Postman would say about wikipe...   Mon 16th March 2009, 7:23pm
Jon Awbrey   I wonder what Neil Postman would say about wikipe...   Tue 17th March 2009, 2:34am
Jon Awbrey   Periodic Reminder — For all the nøøbs … An...   Fri 29th October 2010, 11:50pm
Peter Damian   I'm afraid you gentlemen are just showing ency...   Sat 30th October 2010, 9:57am
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Zoloft   [quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='259771' date='Sat 2...   Sun 21st November 2010, 8:47pm
MZMcBride   There's an undertone here that I think unfairl...   Sat 20th November 2010, 7:25pm
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MZMcBride   Now, any such “undertone” is of course purely ...   Sun 21st November 2010, 7:05am
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