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Jon Awbrey
post Tue 3rd March 2009, 4:30am
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How Wikipedia Is Putting The Existence Of A Free Press At Risk

QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ 30 Jan 2009)

Wikipedia has shown us that a mass medium can be rendered so plastic and so well-leveraged that any part of it can be manipulated by a relatively small number of people, in ways that defy a free society's usual means to guard against it, so long as the special interests in question have a moderate amount of resources and the will to do so. If there are portions of the content that remain untouched, it is for two reasons only: (1) no one has conceived a stake in them yet, (2) virgin forest makes for good cover.

If you're thinking that Wikipedia is the Latest Thing in Blows Against The Empire, then you have a DoubleThink coming.

Jon Awbrey, Comment in The Guardian, 30 Jan 2009, 2:02am

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Good Grief, it's like Wikipediots can't comprehend anything anymore that doesn't come in the form of animated cartoons.

QUOTE(Michael Moore @ 19 Nov 2010)

APCO was hatched in 1984 as a subsidiary of the Washington, D.C. law firm Arnold & Porter — best known for its years of representing the giant tobacco conglomerate Philip Morris. APCO set up fake “grassroots” organizations around the country to do the bidding of Big Tobacco. All of a sudden, “normal, everyday, in-no-way-employed-by-Philip Morris Americans” were popping up everywhere. And it turned out they were outraged — outraged! — by exactly the things APCO's clients hated (such as, the government telling tobacco companies what to do). In particular, they were “furious” that regular people had the right to sue big corporations … you know, like Philip Morris. (For details, see the 2000 report “The CALA Files” (PDF) by my friends and colleagues Carl Deal and Joanne Doroshow.)

— Michael Moore, “How Corporate America Is Pushing Us All Off a Cliff”, 19 Nov 2010

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Good Grief, it's like Wikipediots can't comprehend anything anymore that doesn't come in the form of animated cartoons.

QUOTE(Michael Moore @ 19 Nov 2010)

APCO was hatched in 1984 as a subsidiary of the Washington, D.C. law firm Arnold & Porter — best known for its years of representing the giant tobacco conglomerate Philip Morris. APCO set up fake “grassroots” organizations around the country to do the bidding of Big Tobacco. All of a sudden, “normal, everyday, in-no-way-employed-by-Philip Morris Americans” were popping up everywhere. And it turned out they were outraged — outraged! — by exactly the things APCO's clients hated (such as, the government telling tobacco companies what to do). In particular, they were “furious” that regular people had the right to sue big corporations … you know, like Philip Morris. (For details, see the 2000 report “The CALA Files” (PDF) by my friends and colleagues Carl Deal and Joanne Doroshow.)

— Michael Moore, “How Corporate America Is Pushing Us All Off a Cliff”, 19 Nov 2010



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Jon Awbrey   How Wikipedia Puts The Existence Of A Free Press At Risk   Tue 3rd March 2009, 4:30am
Daniel Brandt   Along the same lines, Web 2.0 in general is increa...   Tue 3rd March 2009, 2:02pm
Daniel Brandt   For decades, many universities in the U.S. have ha...   Tue 3rd March 2009, 6:34pm
It's the blimp, Frank   Newspaper, more than any other type of media, ha...   Sat 30th October 2010, 6:05pm
Jon Awbrey   Newspaper, more than any other type of media, ha...   Sun 31st October 2010, 1:25am
Larry Sanger   There is this thing called supply and demand, see....   Wed 3rd November 2010, 3:21am
Jon Awbrey   There is this thing called supply and demand, see...   Wed 3rd November 2010, 3:28am
emesee   so, what has to change?   Mon 16th March 2009, 3:33am
Rhindle   I wonder what Neil Postman would say about wikiped...   Mon 16th March 2009, 5:07pm
Milton Roe   I wonder what Neil Postman would say about wikipe...   Mon 16th March 2009, 7:23pm
Jon Awbrey   I wonder what Neil Postman would say about wikipe...   Tue 17th March 2009, 2:34am
Selina   I think proper news organisations can capitalise f...   Tue 17th March 2009, 11:57am
Jon Awbrey   I think proper news organisations can capitalise ...   Tue 17th March 2009, 12:20pm
Jon Awbrey   Periodic Reminder — For all the nøøbs … An...   Fri 29th October 2010, 11:50pm
Peter Damian   I'm afraid you gentlemen are just showing ency...   Sat 30th October 2010, 9:57am
Jon Awbrey   Variations on a Theme — Michael Moore, “How C...   Sat 20th November 2010, 6:54pm
Jon Awbrey   Variations on a Theme — Michael Moore, “How ...   Sun 21st November 2010, 4:15pm
Zoloft   [quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='259771' date='Sat 2...   Sun 21st November 2010, 8:47pm
MZMcBride   There's an undertone here that I think unfairl...   Sat 20th November 2010, 7:25pm
Jon Awbrey   There's an undertone here that I think unfair...   Sat 20th November 2010, 11:10pm
Jon Awbrey   There's an undertone here that I think unfai...   Sun 21st November 2010, 3:36am
MZMcBride   Now, any such “undertone” is of course purely ...   Sun 21st November 2010, 7:05am
Peter Damian   If there's a decent argument that Wikipedia i...   Sun 21st November 2010, 11:48am
Avirosa   A site like Wikinews or the Internet in general a...   Sun 21st November 2010, 8:39pm
MZMcBride   Do you have an argument for how or why the contex...   Mon 22nd November 2010, 7:54am
Avirosa   I'm not sure you're familiar with the var...   Mon 22nd November 2010, 6:08pm
Kelly Martin   Wikipedia is being steadily subverted to serve the...   Sun 21st November 2010, 4:53pm
Jon Awbrey   Good Grief, it's like Wikipediots can't co...   Mon 22nd November 2010, 2:41am
MZMcBride   Good Grief, it's like Wikipediots can't co...   Mon 22nd November 2010, 8:04am
Jon Awbrey   Good Grief, it's like Wikipediots can't c...   Wed 24th November 2010, 2:16am


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