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> Article introductions, ~or~ just exactly how stupid are wikipedia admins
TungstenCarbide
post Sat 14th March 2009, 3:51pm
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What is so magical about the first sentence of articles that they must contain every spelling, pronunciation, translation, transliteration and etymology known? Why must it be there and no where else?

More specifically, why does everything in red have to be in the first sentance?

Kyrgyzstan (pronounced /ˈkɝːɡɪstæn/; KƏR-gis-tahn; Kyrgyz: Кыргызстан [qɯrʀɯzˈstɑn]; Russian: Киргизия [kirˈɡizija] or Киргизстан [ˈkirɡistan] or Кыргызстан [ˈkˠɨrɡˠɨzstan], variously transliterated, also Kirgizia or Kirghizia), officially the Kyrgyz Republic, is a country in Central Asia. Landlocked and mountainous, it is bordered by Kazakhstan to the north, Uzbekistan to the west, Tajikistan to the southwest and China to the east. The ethnonym "Kyrgyz", after which the country is named, is thought to originally mean either "forty girls" or "forty tribes", presumably referring to the epic hero Manas who, as legend has it, unified forty tribes against the Mongols.[citation needed] According to popular interpretations, the 40-ray sun on the flag of Kyrgyzstan symbolizes the forty tribes of Manas.


See here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=269348830
there are even more hidious examples at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...ages_in_opening and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...ing_clusterfuck

I made some notes on my user page but it was spitefully deleted after I was banned. Is there an administrator without their head up their ass who can undelete my page? thanks.

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post Sun 15th March 2009, 12:52am
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Tungsten: as you will quickly find by looking at the archives here, Wikipedia has a LOT of
"marshmallow stuffed lard ass" admins. Georgewilliamherbert is not a very bad one,
believe it or not. (He used to participate on this forum, but I haven't seen him here
in a while. You can ask another admin here for help, but he/she might not be willing to
get into conflict with GWH.)

Seriously, your personality might be unsuitable for the deranged, dishonest, popularity-contest
freak show that Wikipedia is in reality. (The freaks lie about this all the time, GWH included.)

You can always create a new account and try again.

Just realize, there is no "reasonable" there, and do not expect to "negotiate" with someone
more powerful than you, in good faith. There is a written policy talking about "good faith",
but it has no force or meaning......

Especially on an article wherein you had a conflict with someone. Because Wikipedia is more like
a role-playing game than an "encyclopedia", you can expect that your opponent will be watching
that article, and will descend upon you if try to edit it again. The "encyclopedia" part is just an excuse.

(Sorry to give you bad news. I think it's better to be honest up-front.)

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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sun 15th March 2009, 12:52am) *

Tungsten: as you will quickly find by looking at the archives here, Wikipedia has a LOT of
"marshmallow stuffed lard ass" admins. Georgewilliamherbert is not a very bad one,
believe it or not. (He used to participate on this forum, but I haven't seen him here
in a while. You can ask another admin here for help, but he/she might not be willing to
get into conflict with GWH.)

Correction.

Georgewilliamherbert is a disastrous figure on Wikipedia, who never participated on this forum, thank goodness. Judging by his awful wiki-antics, I doubt he could manage to complete the registration. Short of the likes of JzG, he's just about as bad they get, I'm afraid.
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TungstenCarbide   Article introductions   Sat 14th March 2009, 3:51pm
Eva Destruction   The "notes on your user page" were – i...   Sat 14th March 2009, 4:02pm
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CharlotteWebb   Kyrgyzstan (pronounced /ˈkɝːɡɪstæn/; KƏR-g...   Sat 14th March 2009, 5:12pm
TungstenCarbide   I don't know what else you may have said that...   Sat 14th March 2009, 5:31pm
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