Ryulong might be going to arbitration Options

[LamontStormstar]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...tration#Ryulong

Ryulong might be going to arbitration

[Alex]

It has long been my belief that the result of someone's RFA rarely resembles their ability as an admin. I have also long believed adminship is not really about trust, rather it's about whether that person would make Wikipedia better as an admin. The articles are what matter most, not people's petty standards or personal beef with other editors.

[No one of consequence]

I have also long believed adminship is not really about trust, rather it's about whether that person would make Wikipedia better as an admin. The articles are what matter most, not people's petty standards or personal beef with other editors.

True story: This spring I started contributing to a forum for (US) income tax questions, run by one of the tax software companies. (Probably they're using web 2.0 to get volunteers to answer questions so they don't have to hire so many paid staff.) I was given enhanced access to the site after 3 days, just because I answered a lot of questions correctly. There was no political intrigue among the volunteers, just the desire to give good answers to people with problems (some of whom should not be allowed near sharp objects, much less the right to vote, but I digress). And the people asking the questions were mostly thankful. And when the SuperUsers goofed and gave wrong answers we corrected each other with professional courtesy. And no one complained about ethnic, religious, or cultural cabals trying to influence the answers. And at the end they sent me a 140 GB external hard drive as a thank you. I know where I'll be between Jan and April next year, and it doesn't begin with the letter "W".

This post has been edited by No one of consequence: Fri 15th May 2009, 3:01pm

[dogbiscuit]

I have also long believed adminship is not really about trust, rather it's about whether that person would make Wikipedia better as an admin. The articles are what matter most, not people's petty standards or personal beef with other editors.

True story: This spring I started contributing to a forum for (US) income tax questions, run by one of the tax software companies. (Probably they're using web 2.0 to get volunteers to answer questions so they don't have to hire so many paid staff.) I was given enhanced access to the site after 3 days, just because I answered a lot of questions correctly. There was no political intrigue among the volunteers, just the desire to give good answers to people with problems (some of whom should not be allowed near sharp objects, much less the right to vote, but I digress). And the people asking the questions were mostly thankful. And when the SuperUsers goofed and gave wrong answers we corrected each other with professional courtesy. And no one complained about ethnic, religious, or cultural cabals trying to influence the answers. And at the end they sent me a 140 GB external hard drive as a thank you. I know where I'll be between Jan and April next year, and it doesn't begin with the letter "W".

When I was a Borland TeamBer, their system was quite simply that they had a professional in charge but other admins kept an eye and if someone made a positive contribution they would eventually get nominated. You essentially did the role anyhow and got the badge a bit later. Because we represented Borland, we watched what we said, and if someone did step out of line, they were thrown off.

The most notable occasion was when the Borland supervisor asked an old hand for the password to his sponsored account (a Borland/CompuServe property). He responded with the immortal phrase "Go sit on a fruitcake, asshole"... and with one bound he was gone.

I still have the T-Shirt with logos GSOAFA, and "I'll do anything as long as you don't pay me." (which reflected one of those big dilemma debates on the volunteer work ethics).

The whole community dysfunction thing bemuses me. There you have WMF going on about wanting people to preach of its wonders, yet they could make things better by injecting professional management, without compromising either their 230 status or undermining the community ethic. It's not like it hasn't been done successfully a thousand times before elsewhere.