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> Fred Bauder uses Yahoo! Answers, and not the Wikia Answers?
thekohser
post Fri 3rd April 2009, 3:08pm
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Fred Bauder is looking for help on Yahoo! Answers.

Do you think he's more or less conducting a "poll", or is he truly seeking the one "best answer" to the question?
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post Fri 3rd April 2009, 3:42pm
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Et tu, Fred? Et tu?
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post Fri 3rd April 2009, 3:54pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 3rd April 2009, 10:08am) *
Do you think he's more or less conducting a "poll", or is he truly seeking the one "best answer" to the question?

Why doesn't he just cut to the chase, and phrase the question as "Why do the vast, overwhelming majority of people clearly think Wikipedia is just the best thing EVAR?"

Besides, I'm not sure what sort of startlingly new insightful responses he's expecting to see, beyond the usual "it's easy," "it covers everything," and "we're lazy."
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post Fri 3rd April 2009, 4:15pm
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QUOTE(Somey @ Fri 3rd April 2009, 9:54am) *

QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 3rd April 2009, 10:08am) *
Do you think he's more or less conducting a "poll", or is he truly seeking the one "best answer" to the question?

Why doesn't he just cut to the chase, and phrase the question as "Why do the vast, overwhelming majority of people clearly think Wikipedia is just the best thing EVAR?"

Besides, I'm not sure what sort of startlingly new insightful responses he's expecting to see, beyond the usual "it's easy," "it covers everything," and "we're lazy."



and "real knowledge is hard."
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post Fri 3rd April 2009, 4:43pm
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Actually, I've never contributed to Yahoo!Answers myself... I think I might have a Yahoo! account somewhere, though. I wonder if it would be possible to add some of our own, just to liven things up?
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I find it rather ironic that you would ask this question, as it contradicts earlier statements you've made as a member of the Arbitration Committee. Moreover, your current attitude shows a clear disregard for Wikipedia policy and established community consensus. I would strongly suggest that you refactor your comments, or better yet, redact them completely.
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post Fri 3rd April 2009, 5:00pm
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QUOTE(Somey @ Sat 4th April 2009, 1:54am) *

Besides, I'm not sure what sort of startlingly new insightful responses he's expecting to see, beyond the usual "it's easy," "it covers everything," and "we're lazy."


I don't know about that, "Skywalker" is a pretty well-known fanboy.
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post Fri 3rd April 2009, 5:07pm
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QUOTE(Somey @ Fri 3rd April 2009, 12:43pm) *

Actually, I've never contributed to Yahoo!Answers myself... I think I might have a Yahoo! account somewhere, though.


Actually, I am rising up through the ranks of "Top Answerers" in the Wikipedia category (currently sixth place, after only participating for a couple of months). It's fun. I'm using it to spread the gospel in a subversive sort of way. The Wikipediots seem to have picked up on this, though, and now they're starting to "vote down" my answers (if they're not selected as "Best" by the asker). As with anything, Web 2.0 -- it becomes a game of revenge. Here's a good example of the best answer getting dissed by the WikiTeens.

I had to answer Fred:

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Fred, I will surely expand on my answer, if your quest proves legitimate. But, for now, may I ask you to elaborate (you may update your question details) -- do you know the difference between "presearch" and "research" in a college setting, as described in the PDF link that you provided above?

Furthermore, do you understand the difference between "everyday life research" and "course-related research", as also described in the PDF report?

What would you say about the type of collegiate-level thinking that transmits "now I’ve got some citations and stuff" as one of the benefits of launching presearch at Wikipedia (also, per your PDF file)? Why was one student "embarrassed to say" they use Wikipedia? Why did another mention "public humiliation in class" if discovered to have used Wikipedia for course-related research?

What do you think about (n=86)? How were the discussion groups recruited? Do you think that the most accomplished and advanced students took time away from their academic pursuits to participate in the study? Why was the data collection limited to those in humanities and social sciences? Why were even summary data about the "information literacy competency" of each of the participants withheld? Sixteen percent of the sample was from what we'd call an "elite" institution. Do you wonder about how their responses might differ from those, say, at a community college? Did the use of a $15 iTunes card skew the sample? Are “refer a friend” incentives an unbiased means of recruiting study participants? Why were 70% of the participants female?

Lastly, do you feel qualitative data can and should be projected to larger, universal populations?


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post Fri 3rd April 2009, 8:29pm
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Well, Greg, you just ruined his request. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) Now all those idiots who said things like
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coz we are lazyyyyy !!!!

will be hopelessly (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/confused.gif) .

I never actually tried to rate answers on Yahoo Answers. Their point system is just like
Wikipedia--set up to encourage obsessive-compulsive behavior and systemic gaming. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/yecch.gif)
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