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Another little example of the Korean Kabal, and their defending admin Future Perfect at Sunrise - aka Dr. Lukas Pietsch of the University of Hamburg Germany - at work on Prostitution in South Korea. Readers might remember how Dr. Lukas Pietsch was accused by another member elsewhere on this forum of favoring some races/nationalities over others.
This was a removal of over 100 references.
Prostitution in South Korea before Dr. Lukas Pietsch.

Prostitution in South Korea after Dr. Lukas Pietsch.
• Diffs; here.
With a neat dash of extra chilli from Kuebie as a last minute "purification" of any flavor of 'sennen goroshi' finally, thereby reducing the topic back into the state that our Kimchi Warrior Caspian blue left in 3 October 2008 .

At least proving that Caspian blue et al are not just anti-Japanese but care enough to engage in a nice bit of Korea-washing whenever they can ... with the collusion of helpful "neutral", policy-following admins too.

Page Pietsch Protected. Now, honest, I could pull another dozen or more Korean or Korea-Japanese topics that have been going through this same, and even more manic, routinue. Does it matter? Does anyone really care?

OK ... nah. I understand. There is just too much of it going on everywhere else to care.

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QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Fri 15th May 2009, 12:36am) *
OK ... nah. I understand. There is just too much of it going on everywhere else to care.

What, prostitution? It's the world's oldest profession, man! Though I should point out that I've never had to resort to... oh, never mind.

Anyway, these "Prostitution in {insert name of country here}" articles are a little excessive in general, don't you think? I mean, half the countries in the world have been made the subjects of these articles, and the other half are just red-links in drop-boxes, waiting for some enterprising national prostitution expert from those countries to fill in. I mean, this is ridiculous - half of these articles are basically guides for sex-starved tourists.

You'll have to forgive me for looking at this in "big picture" terms, Mr. Cock-up... the fact is, these articles should all be trashed. They're culturally insensitive and politically irresponsible, to a degree almost beyond reason - not that that ever stopped Wikipedians before, of course.
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post Fri 15th May 2009, 6:14am
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What, prostitution? It's the world's oldest profession, man! Though I should point out that I've never had to resort to... oh, never mind.

Bad example perhaps but it was more about the issue of the references. And if it is not about the references, what is it about?

(I am assuming Dr Lukas is no expert in South Korea, or any other, prostitution. But I might be wrong).

Have fun applying the same rule to all of them equally I say ...

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This is surely a set up, no? ... someone is having a laugh.

This was not me but I would go on record so say that I think guy is a bit of scabby perineum that would not stop at deliberately hurting people or provoking others to then punish them from behind the safety of his Pee-Cee and throws his admin weight around. It all damages the Wikipedia.

It looks like Future Perfect at Sunrise abused his admin powers on someone else and on some other Wikipedian battle front.

For a moment I was tempted to put up a picture of Dr Lukas and an infected perineum so that others might be able to make an academic comparison (as in, half way between a *** and a ***). But, thankfully, even I cannot stoop that low. Use your imagination. Jah wohl, here he is "über Macedonia".

From Soc.Culture.Greek ... and Future Perfect at Sunrise.

I know nothing about this war. I am not getting involved. It is about Macedonia issues, see Macedonia and User_talk:Feristos_despoton.

Perhaps this is what the earlier complaint here was about?
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Hello everyone!

I believe it was about time I told everyone in the world about myself.

My name is Lukas Pietsch and I specialise in English Linguistics. Instead of spending my time conducting research, I edit wikipedia articles all day (sometimes even a hundred of them a day)! I am a wikipedia administrator and I go by the user name Future Perfect at Sunrise.

I am very interested in Balkan politics, so I often argue against the use of scholarly sources, misquote other people's work and misrepresent historical facts in order to push my view in wikipedia.

That is so cool! I honestly feel that I should never have been born a German as my heart truly lies with the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. I even find myself arguing that the ancient kingdom of Macedonia was never Greek!

Here is a link to my facebook account in case you want to check out more:

http://www.facebook.com/lukas.pietsch

Yours truthfully, Lukas Pietsch

PS: Peace out to the suckers funding my research! I bet you had no idea of how I've been using the time you've been paying me for!

PPS: I am including links to my university and wikipedia websites:

http://freenet-homepage.de/LukasPietsch/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise


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QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Mon 15th June 2009, 12:01am) *
From Soc.Culture.Greek ... and Future Perfect at Sunrise.

I know nothing about this war. I am not getting involved. It is about Macedonia issues...

This is a fairly common problem with Google Groups - not so much with Yahoo or the purely-social sites, for some reason, though of course it does happen. It just seems like the Google people simply don't give a shit, probably because they can afford not to.

Other sites, meanwhile, can be in a world of hurt if they fail to come down hard on malicious impersonators - and that includes wikis, even WP itself. People don't forget that sort of thing.
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post Mon 15th June 2009, 7:29am
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Thank you. Interesting. What I did just see was this ... from the arbcom Request for arbitration: Macedonia 2.

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Future Perfect at Sunrise is strongly admonished for displaying a long pattern of incivil, rude, offensive, and insulting behavior towards other editors and failure to address the community's concerns in this regard.

Because of this Future Perfect at Sunrise is subject to an editing restriction for one year, and is desysopped for three months as a consequence of poor user conduct and misuse of administrative tools.


After three months, his administrator access will be automatically restored.

Why automatically? Why he should not have be re-elected?

So ... so far, in this whole anti-Japanese Caspian blue/Future Perfect at Sunrise debacle, Caspian blue is "edit banned" for 6 months from Japanese related and, elsewhere, Future Perfect at Sunrise is "edit restricted" for one year and desysopped. Wake up folks.

"I told you so" is no compensation at all ... and it does not end here.

I am sure we could all shine a torch into other dark, fetid little corners of the Wikipeda where equal and equivalent operators are lurking.

Its a real pisser when one is forces to go around the arc of attempting to contribute, addressing such matters reasonably, raising the issue at the top, wasting hours of one's life and having one's work trashed, and so on ... only find later have it made obviously clear that you were dealing with twisted sphincters all along.

In Caspian blue's case, there is a trail of other repeat pattern victims. She gets off on it. Apparently so in 'de-sysopped and edit restricted' Dr Lukas Pietsch's case as well.

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post Mon 15th June 2009, 1:32pm
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QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Fri 15th May 2009, 5:36am) *


Another little example of the Korean Kabal, and their defending admin Future Perfect at Sunrise - aka <<REMOVED>>


This is more of the "outing" that this site was created to do, right?

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This is more of the "outing" that this site was created to do, right?

I'd swop those reading glasses for something capable of taking in a bigger picture. Lukas was out of the Wiki-closet a long time before I found this website.

What do you make of the initial subject?

How many people did Dr Lukas Pietsch, or the others shaft, wasting hours out of their lives, until eventually something had to be done about him? I don't hear you condemning that.

I'd call it making real what the protagonists want to pretend is unreal, bring back it to a human level and applying values ... and what goes around coming back around. Have a read of the original issue, then the consequential evidence. Please, try and keep on topic.

From what I have read of the constructive discussion on this website, one common issue that arises is how anonymity and unaccountability has created a sick environment in which individuals disrespect and abuse each other. Even professionals and academics. Personally, one should apply higher standards and expectations to individuals such as Dr Lukas.

Of course, then there comes a point when one recognizes that "constructive discussion" is futile, cancerous fatigue sets in, and ridicule and satire are inevitable.

If someone treats others like shit ... which is now the 'official view' ... and is then shown to be one themselves, why should not it come back round to bite their butt?

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I requested unprotection and it was unprotected. There was no rationale for an indefinite semi-protect, especially given FPAT's controversy.
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QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Mon 15th June 2009, 2:32pm) *

QUOTE(Hipocrite @ Mon 15th June 2009, 1:32pm) *
This is more of the "outing" that this site was created to do, right?

I'd swop those reading glasses for something capable of taking in a bigger picture. <<REDACTED>> was out of the Wiki-closet a long time before I found this website.


Bullshit.
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QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Fri 15th May 2009, 5:36am) *


Another little example of the Korean Kabal, and their defending admin Future Perfect at Sunrise - aka <<REMOVED>>


This is more of the "outing" that this site was created to do, right?

Nah - pre-identified.

("Outing" is still an absurd term in this context.)
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I found this status update rather odd on his Facebook account:

"Nobody dares touch me on wikipedia... HA! I can use my sockpuppet to vandalize articles with impunity because I am an administrator!"
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QUOTE(UseOnceAndDestroy @ Mon 15th June 2009, 5:13pm) *

QUOTE(Hipocrite @ Mon 15th June 2009, 2:32pm) *

QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Fri 15th May 2009, 5:36am) *


Another little example of the Korean Kabal, and their defending admin Future Perfect at Sunrise - aka <<REMOVED>>


This is more of the "outing" that this site was created to do, right?

Nah - pre-identified.

("Outing" is still an absurd term in this context.)


So it's ok to out editors if they are already outed elsewhere, where elsewhere is anywhere else on the internet? Just want to make sure I understand when it's ok to say THEFIERYANGEL IS <<redacted>> without getting banned, or anything, because in the not-so-long-ago there was a special filter that would have made writing "THEFIERYANGEL IS <<redacted>>" change to "THEFIERYANGEL IS BAN ME BAN ME."

Or is this another example where what's good for the goose is terrible for the gander?

QUOTE(seicer @ Mon 15th June 2009, 5:19pm) *

I found this status update rather odd on his Facebook account:

"Nobody dares touch me on wikipedia... HA! I can use my sockpuppet to vandalize articles with impunity because I am an administrator!"


That's not his facebook account. Cock-up-over-conspiracy has gone around the internet impersonating <<redacted>>. Is it ok for me to ID Cock-up-over-conspiracy now?
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So it's ok to out editors if they are already outed elsewhere, where elsewhere is anywhere else on the internet?

Since the identification originally came from Wikipedia itself, it probably is OK in this case.
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QUOTE(Hipocrite @ Mon 15th June 2009, 2:32pm) *
So it's ok to out editors if they are already outed elsewhere, where elsewhere is anywhere else on the internet?

Since the identification originally came from Wikipedia itself, it probably is OK in this case.


citation needed

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QUOTE(Hipocrite @ Mon 15th June 2009, 9:32am) *

QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Fri 15th May 2009, 5:36am) *


Another little example of the Korean Kabal, and their defending admin Future Perfect at Sunrise - aka <<REMOVED>>


This is more of the "outing" that this site was created to do, right?


Let's see...

Hipocrite provides pithy snipes directed at the creator of the thoughtful content, as well as underlying bitching and moaning about the management of this site's "policy structure".

Cock-up provides insightful commentary, thoughtfully marked-up with color, boldness, links, etc. Lots of value-add for a WR reader like me.

Which pseudonymous character do I value most?

I feel like I'm reading Highlights again, the contrast is so stark and self-explanatory!

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You jumped the shark with this line:
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creator of the thoughtful content

I guess I don't make enough remarks about Kimchi Kommandos who are trying to own articles with their vicious Anglo-military anti-Japanese prejudice by brutally suppressing the fact that so-called "comfort women" were actually all prostitutes who were paid full and fair compensation for their services (because Koreans apparently really like being prostitutes).
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QUOTE(Somey @ Mon 15th June 2009, 7:37pm) *

QUOTE(Hipocrite @ Mon 15th June 2009, 2:32pm) *
So it's ok to out editors if they are already outed elsewhere, where elsewhere is anywhere else on the internet?

Since the identification originally came from Wikipedia itself, it probably is OK in this case.


citation needed


http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/hivemind.html#304
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That's not his facebook account. Cock-up-over-conspiracy has gone around the internet impersonating <<redacted>>. Is it ok for me to ID Cock-up-over-conspiracy now?

I clearly and truly stated that it was not me ... it made me think for a moment, and then laugh. Then I discovered the de-sysopping for disrespecting others.

Thank you for importing the unsubstantiated 'shit-throwing' standards (seen above) and One for 'position-twisting' ... which are both perfectly acceptable and common on the Wikipedia ... to wikipediareview.com. Should we have expected any better?

I had no idea Lukas was also embroiled in an assault on Greek history, (ha! I had not even registered Macedonia was a country these days). I have never followed those topics.

Surely, its not "double standards".
Isn't it "leveling the playing field" ... and an excellent thing?

a) Go and make an example by setting some standards on the Wikipedia.
b) It only happens if you act like a perineum ... so don't do that and you are safe.

As a scholar in that field, Dr Lukas should know the definition of the word 'hubris' ...

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Hubris (/hjuːbrɪs/) (ancient Greek ὕβρις) is a term used in modern English to indicate overweening pride, superciliousness, or arrogance, often resulting in fatal retribution or nemesis.

Ref: Gowy, Jacob Peter. The Fall of Icarus, 1650.

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citation needed

Is this sort of thing really necessary, Mr. Hipocrite? I assume you're just trying to make us all feel bad, but I can assure you, it won't work. Frankly, we feel bad enough just having you as member, half the time... rolleyes.gif

They haven't even deleted the page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...se/LukasPietsch

Tellyawhut, if they delete that page, I'll seriously consider taking steps to hide Mr. Pietsch's real name in connection with his WP account here on WR, though I should point out that I have little influence over Daniel Brandt these days, so it'll still be on his site. (I actually made a similar offer two years ago, I might add.) Still... fair enough?
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