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[Herschelkrustofsky]

I think it likely that Will has sent out some sort of off-Wiki distress signal, because suddenly SlimVirgin and Hipocrite have entered the fray.

Edit: hey, look, Will has one of those cool enemies list user sub-pages like the ones SV made famous. He is monitoring external links to sites he doesn't like, mostly LaRouche-related, but with an assortment of other enemies as well.

[EricBarbour]

Edit: hey, look, Will has one of those cool enemies list user sub-pages like the ones SV made famous. He is monitoring external links to sites he doesn't like, mostly LaRouche-related, but with an assortment of other enemies as well.

David J. Silver? It was deleted 3 years ago. Does Will keep his insane grudges that long?

[Hipocrite]

I think it likely that Will has sent out some sort of off-Wiki distress signal, because suddenly ... Hipocrite [has] entered the fray.

Found this NN-BLP here. Don't we support deletion of NN-BLPs? It's another GOOSE GANDER EQUIVALENCE PROBLEM!

[Kato]

I think it likely that Will has sent out some sort of off-Wiki distress signal, because suddenly ... Hipocrite [has] entered the fray.

Found this NN-BLP here. Don't we support deletion of NN-BLPs? It's another GOOSE GANDER EQUIVALENCE PROBLEM!

When Helga Zepp-LaRouche decides she doesn't want a BLP, and when a bunch of Wikipediot low-lifes start holding her BLP to ransom, then you might have a point.

Until then, your antics should be considered the usual slimey twattery - by anyone who cares.

[Herschelkrustofsky]

I think it likely that Will has sent out some sort of off-Wiki distress signal, because suddenly ... Hipocrite [has] entered the fray.

Found this NN-BLP here. Don't we support deletion of NN-BLPs? It's another GOOSE GANDER EQUIVALENCE PROBLEM!

Here's the long answer: first of all, Wikipedia acts as a megaphone for the popular, cartelized press. Were I not banned, due to a broad consensus within a community comprised of Will Beback and JoshuaZ, I would argue that WP:NOT should be expanded to include "megaphone for the press." Consequently, POV-pushing system-gamers (and you know who you are) will attempt to argue that a person such as Ms. Zepp-LaRouche, who heads a registered political party in Germany, should be considered non-notable, because no bio appears in Newsweek or its ilk. And like Will Beback, you dismiss press sources from non-English speaking countries -- what could they possibly know?

But wait! There's more!

Upon viewing your antics history for the past day, I see that you are also arguing that Wilhelm Lautenbach (T-H-L-K-D)] is non-notable, presumably because your comrade-in-arms Will Beback has flagged him as a "LaRouche-related historical personality" (see "Searching for LaRouche under the bed.") And following your antics history further, I discover that you and SlimVirgin are now putting on a circus geek act at Talk:Helga Zepp-LaRouche. I see, for example, that SlimVirgin has deleted this section for the simple reason that it mentions a proposal that she dislikes, the "Eurasian Land-Bridge."

Now, for the short version: I fully agree with Kato that your antics represent slimey twattery.

[Kato]

I see, for example, that SlimVirgin has deleted this section for the simple reason that it mentions a proposal that she dislikes, the "Eurasian Land-Bridge."

I think Slim has deleted it because the "Eurasian Land-Bridge" appears to be of contestable origin and she'd need evidence from a variety of sources. Which seems reasonable if one were creating a credible article on the matter.

Helga Zepp-LaRouche was responsible for a patent lie about Thatcher and Kohl which was linked to recently - so if the Eurasian Land-Bridge photograph previously discussed (which looked very dubious) turned out to be a fake, it wouldn't surprise me.

[Herschelkrustofsky]

I think Slim has deleted it because the "Eurasian Land-Bridge" appears to be of contestable origin and she'd need evidence from a variety of sources. Which seems reasonable if one were creating a credible article on the matter.

The sentence to which Slim objects says that Zepp-LaRouche asserts that "the adoption of the [[Political views of Lyndon LaRouche#Eurasian Landbridge|Eurasian Land-Bridge]] proposal today can avert a similar disaster." So, are you contending that LaRouche made no such proposal? Or, that we cannot take his word for the fact that he made such a proposal?

[sbrown]

So, are you contending that LaRouche made no such proposal? Or, that we cannot take his word for the fact that he made such a proposal?

By wikidiot logic we need a reliable source that he made such a proposal and he is himself not a reliable source. Even if he were hed be a primary source and wed prefer a secondary one.

[Kato]

I think Slim has deleted it because the "Eurasian Land-Bridge" appears to be of contestable origin and she'd need evidence from a variety of sources. Which seems reasonable if one were creating a credible article on the matter.

The sentence to which Slim objects says that Zepp-LaRouche asserts that "the adoption of the [[Political views of Lyndon LaRouche#Eurasian Landbridge|Eurasian Land-Bridge]] proposal today can avert a similar disaster." So, are you contending that LaRouche made no such proposal? Or, that we cannot take his word for the fact that he made such a proposal?

Well the whole Zepp-LaRouche / Land-Bridge business looks very dubious, somewhere between hoax and exaggeration, so if one were writing a serious article about this area anywhere other than Wikipedia, surely one would want to take a good look at external sources unconnected to LaRouche to see what they say, before touching it.

[It's the blimp, Frank]

I think Slim has deleted it because the "Eurasian Land-Bridge" appears to be of contestable origin and she'd need evidence from a variety of sources. Which seems reasonable if one were creating a credible article on the matter.

From what I've seen, Slim doesn't jump into the middle of a dispute like this in order to help bring about a commonsense solution. Perhaps this is her highly anticipated return to Drama, now that she has her admin powers back. Watch for precipitous bannings.

This post has been edited by It's the blimp, Frank: Sat 20th June 2009, 1:07am

[Herschelkrustofsky]

And, it turns out that Will "disappeared" another bio, Wilhelm Lautenbach (T-H-L-K-D). And, once again, it was recreated and submitted to an AfD, which it is passing with flying colors. Will went apeshit on Tanthalas (T-C-L-K-R-D) , the admin who did the re-creation, and got into a talk page spat, which succeeded in moving Tanthalas from being somewhat obsequiously WP:CIVIL to being noticeably annoyed, commenting that "your posts have this whiff of condescension or patronization."

[sbrown]

Its worth noting that the German WP has no article on Lautenbach. As there usually very good on economists its clear that hes not notable in Germany.

That is not of course to excuse the summary deletion of the article and still less to agree with the AfD arguments.


This post has been edited by sbrown: Sat 20th June 2009, 10:21pm

[Herschelkrustofsky]

Edit: hey, look, Will has one of those cool enemies list user sub-pages like the ones SV made famous. He is monitoring external links to sites he doesn't like, mostly LaRouche-related, but with an assortment of other enemies as well.

David J. Silver? It was deleted 3 years ago. Does Will keep his insane grudges that long?

I found the updated "LaRouche under the bed" list, which Will has worked on as recently as Monday. He added a "noindex" template to shield his work from prying eyes, but the Wikipedia Review sees all.