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[Jon Awbrey]

I missed this closing word from Spider Hands:

[14:09] <+sgardner> Anyway: upshot — likely at some point in the future we will develop a BOPT (Blow-Out Preventer Testing) policy, but it's not imminent. And I think it's fine for us, at this point, to experiment a little — sometimes running BOPTs when we think circumstances warrant it, and sometimes not running them when we think it's not warranted. That way we can learn how much work it is, whether it leads to useful outcomes, and so forth. In general, our goal is to get the best possible outcomes, and if BOPTs don't help us do that, I would be less inclined to use them as a tool.

Other than when you have a project that maybe costs less than $5,000, and you're on a deadline for completion within the next week or two, WHEN EXACTLY is an BOPT process not going to help yield the best possible outcomes?

What am I missing here?

Her future employment aspirations?

Jon

[Milton Roe]

This gets better.

Immediately after I was booted from “Office Hours”:

[b][13:10] <@StevenW> Killiondude: There is a list of exactly two people that the WMF feels obliged never to engage with.
[13:10] <@StevenW> Kohs and an IRL stalker that the office has had.
[13:11] <@StevenW> We didn't answer him on the mailing list for that reason, and IRC is no different.

Kohs is on the short list with Andrew Morrow and nobody else?

Oh man, oh man, Jimbo just REALLY must not like the trailer-park jokes.

Hey Kohs, GRAWP didn't even make that list. In Stevie Wonder's mind, anyway.

[thekohser]

Meanwhile, Rand Montoya, the organizer of the failed 2009 Donor Study that never launched, still thinks he works for the Wikimedia Foundation, even though his last day there was over two weeks ago.

[EricBarbour]

Kohs is on the short list with Andrew Morrow and nobody else?

So it seems. Greg has done a great job of pissing Wales off, it's almost a talent.

When someone, someday, writes an honest history of Wikipedia, Greg will deserve his own
chapter--not because he 'disrupted the glorious project", but because the treatment he received
from the Wiki-Faithful was more akin to a Stalinist purge than "dealing with a disruptor".
Even Grawp didn't receive such hatred.

Short form: there is no free speech on Wikipedia. Nor on anything run by Wikipedia people.
They are basically no better than book-burners.

[Jon Awbrey]

Kohs is on the short list with Andrew Morrow and nobody else?

So it seems. Greg has done a great job of pissing Wales off, it's almost a talent.

When someone, someday, writes an honest history of Wikipedia, Greg will deserve his own chapter — not because he 'disrupted the glorious project", but because the treatment he received from the Wiki-Faithful was more akin to a Stalinist purge than "dealing with a disruptor". Even Grawp didn't receive such hatred.

Short form: there is no free speech on Wikipedia. Nor on anything run by Wikipedia people. They are basically no better than book-burners.

This is the thing that Wikipediots never get — that people will treat Wikipediots exactly the way that Wikipediots treat them. There are whole WP essays speculating on the motives of their "disrupters", when it's perfectly clear to any outside observer what the motivation is — all they'd have to do is ask — but they just keep dancing around the simple answer because they don't want to know the truth.

Jon

[thekohser]

Anyone willing to be quoted on record about how the process for RFP/RFQ bidding is handled in your organization, please contact me at thekohser -at- gmail.com.

Thanks.

[thekohser]

Meanwhile, Rand Montoya, the organizer of the failed 2009 Donor Study that never launched, still thinks he works for the Wikimedia Foundation, even though his last day there was over two weeks ago.

It's been about eight months now... I wonder if Rand's money is starting to run out? He certainly has a cutely-written profile on LinkedIn! But, it doesn't look like the CTN pays its directors or corporate secretary.

The Wikimedia Foundation certainly does have a history of former employees not moving on to anything more substantial, doesn't it? I'm thinking of Danny Wool, Carolyn Doran, Brad Patrick, Brion Vibber (who returned to the WMF fold), and Mike Godwin. Any others I've missed? Is this a sort of pattern, or am I just cherry-picking? It's kind of like former head coaches of the Detroit Lions -- none move up the totem pole after their stint in the Motor City.

This post has been edited by thekohser: Tue 31st May 2011, 5:07pm

[Somey]

The Wikimedia Foundation certainly does have a history of former employees not moving on to anything more substantial, doesn't it? I'm thinking of Danny Wool, Carolyn Doran, Brad Patrick, Brion Vibber (who returned to the WMF fold), and Mike Godwin. Any others I've missed? Is this a sort of pattern, or am I just cherry-picking?

In all fairness, if there were WMF employees who had gone on to better jobs, we probably wouldn't hear about them. Most companies don't make a public show of their technical and fundraising hires anyway, and the newly-hired person himself/herself isn't likely to make a point of publicly saying, "look at me, I used to work for the Wikimedia Foundation and now I'm a junior executive for {name of better-run, more respectable organization}."

Then again, it probably depends on the company. Most colleges and universities announce new hires in nearly all areas, for example - but colleges and universities are probably less likely than most to hire people from an outfit like the WMF.

It's kind of like former head coaches of the Detroit Lions -- none move up the totem pole after their stint in the Motor City.

But Matt Millen and Steve Mariucci both do a good job as TV analysts, at least...?

[thekohser]

But Matt Millen...

That is a name that is never to be uttered, Somey. It brings great unrest to my household.

[thekohser]

Okay, here we go...

In only 10 months, "Kristin P." moved up from Executive Assistant at the WMF to Administrative Assistant at Facebook. (Horsey will approve.)

This post has been edited by thekohser: Tue 31st May 2011, 8:12pm