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| EricBarbour |
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People seem to be missing the between-the-lines part: SV is obviously canvassing like hell, off-wiki. Look at the date stamps for the people endorsing her initial bitch-off. Amazing how quickly they came, every minute/few minutes apart..... starting with her favorite meatpuppets. Seriously, how often do all those people happen to be watching a given RFC at one time?? Henceforth, Wikipedia will slowly fall apart. And I predict that SV, that Shrieking Madwoman, will be a primary contributing factor. And since this committee was set up by some Arbcommers who are noted for not voting for her pet revenge schemes (plus, don't forget that banning-for-six-months-bit), she's apparently out to eliminate all of the Arbcom members who won't ass-nozzle her. (And judging from this disgusting mess, she might pull it off.)
Peter Damian or Greg Kohs will not destroy Wikipedia, its insiders will. |
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| Eva Destruction |
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 13th July 2009, 8:50am)  People seem to be missing the between-the-lines part: SV is obviously canvassing like hell, off-wiki. Look at the date stamps for the people endorsing her initial bitch-off. Amazing how quickly they came, every minute/few minutes apart..... starting with her favorite meatpuppets. Well, the first one to endorse her was, er, me, and I don't think even the most paranoid would consider me "one of her favorite meatpuppets". The reason you saw such a flurry at the start was because as soon as she put the RFC live, she added a link on the Arbcom noticeboard. |
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| Cla68 |
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QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Mon 13th July 2009, 10:33am) QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 13th July 2009, 8:50am) People seem to be missing the between-the-lines part: SV is obviously canvassing like hell, off-wiki. Look at the date stamps for the people endorsing her initial bitch-off. Amazing how quickly they came, every minute/few minutes apart..... starting with her favorite meatpuppets. Well, the first one to endorse her was, er, me, and I don't think even the most paranoid would consider me "one of her favorite meatpuppets". The reason you saw such a flurry at the start was because as soon as she put the RFC live, she added a link on the Arbcom noticeboard. To be clear, I wasn't accusing you or Everyking of being part of any canvassing. Good point about the noticeboard post, but I still kind of doubt that that many people watch the ArbCom noticeboard. But, to be fair, if any secret canvassing occurred it might not have been SV, but others watching things unfold. The point stands though of the irony of SV lecturing the arbitrators on transparency, since we (or at least, I) know she was one of the main leaders in directing the secret cliques which basically controlled large portions of Wikipedia for about three years. This post has been edited by Cla68: Mon 13th July 2009, 11:11am |
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| Eva Destruction |
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QUOTE(Cla68 @ Mon 13th July 2009, 12:10pm) QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Mon 13th July 2009, 10:33am) QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 13th July 2009, 8:50am) People seem to be missing the between-the-lines part: SV is obviously canvassing like hell, off-wiki. Look at the date stamps for the people endorsing her initial bitch-off. Amazing how quickly they came, every minute/few minutes apart..... starting with her favorite meatpuppets. Well, the first one to endorse her was, er, me, and I don't think even the most paranoid would consider me "one of her favorite meatpuppets". The reason you saw such a flurry at the start was because as soon as she put the RFC live, she added a link on the Arbcom noticeboard. To be clear, I wasn't accusing you or Everyking of being part of any canvassing. Good point about the noticeboard post, but I still kind of doubt that that many people watch the ArbCom noticeboard. But, to be fair, if any secret canvassing occurred it might not have been SV, but others watching things unfold. The point stands though of the irony of SV lecturing the arbitrators on transparency, since we (or at least, I) know she was one of the main leaders in directing the secret cliques which basically controlled large portions of Wikipedia for about three years. Regarding the noticeboard posts – normally I'd agree with you, but shortly before she added that link, this thread on Giano's talkpage and this thread on Malleus's talk – two of the highest-traffic talkpages on Wikipedia – had just been created, so a number of people would have been following the links from those discussions to see what was being talked about, and stumbled across the RFC. As I've said on Wikipedia, I think Slim is right in this case even if it's for the wrong reasons. I agree with everything Vassyana said in his original opposition to the proposal; because this looks like a return to the smoke-filled rooms of a couple of years ago, any good ideas this council comes up with are going to be tarred by the "it's come from the cabal" brush, but any bad ideas will get more credibility than they deserve by virtue of the "hotline to the top" arrangement. |
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 Eva Destruction Advisory Council on Project Development Fri 10th July 2009, 8:03pm Nerd
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbit... Fri 10th July 2009, 8:15pm Sarcasticidealist 1. The state of governance on Wikipedia is such th... Fri 10th July 2009, 8:25pm  Nerd
1. The state of governance on Wikipedia is such t... Fri 10th July 2009, 8:28pm Sarcasticidealist I don't follow that logic.That's because i... Fri 10th July 2009, 8:31pm Nerd
This is just a front anyway.
For what? The Troj... Fri 10th July 2009, 8:35pm Sarcasticidealist It's a pretence that arbcom actually care abou... Fri 10th July 2009, 8:38pm GlassBeadGame
I don't follow that logic.That's because ... Fri 10th July 2009, 8:38pm Kelly Martin If this group plans to conduct its business somewh... Fri 10th July 2009, 8:35pm Sarcasticidealist I'd consider volunteering except that they... Fri 10th July 2009, 8:39pm Kelly Martin Also, why would you consider volunteering? To acc... Fri 10th July 2009, 8:44pm Eva Destruction FWIW, I think Kelly (or Greg, for that matter) wou... Fri 10th July 2009, 8:50pm Sarcasticidealist FWIW, I think Kelly (or Greg, for that matter) wou... Fri 10th July 2009, 8:52pm Malleus FWIW, I think Kelly (or Greg, for that matter) wou... Fri 10th July 2009, 9:06pm thekohser
[quote name='Eva Destruction' post='182965' date=... Sat 11th July 2009, 4:28am MZMcBride
Believe me -- in the short term, I'm delighte... Sat 11th July 2009, 7:07am thekohser
Until Wikipedia's usefulness can be replaced ... Sun 12th July 2009, 12:32am Nerd
Until Wikipedia's usefulness can be replaced... Sun 12th July 2009, 12:34am Malleus
Until Wikipedia's usefulness can be replaced... Sun 12th July 2009, 2:04am Malleus
She's not 10. But, no... you haven't ups... Sat 11th July 2009, 1:45pm Kelly Martin But I believe that Kelly has a self-admitted histo... Fri 10th July 2009, 9:13pm Sarcasticidealist I've always acted in good faith with respect t... Fri 10th July 2009, 9:15pm GlassBeadGame
I've always acted in good faith with respect ... Fri 10th July 2009, 9:29pm Kelly Martin I thought you'd characterized your motivations... Fri 10th July 2009, 9:32pm Guido den Broeder It's a move in the wrong direction, a futile a... Fri 10th July 2009, 9:34pm Cla68 Obviously, a council such as this one, without any... Fri 10th July 2009, 10:27pm Cedric http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc358/WRCedric/... Fri 10th July 2009, 11:17pm Milton Roe
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc358/WRCedric... Sat 11th July 2009, 7:36pm NuclearWarfare For those who haven't seen it yet, there is no... Sat 11th July 2009, 7:56pm Kelly Martin
For those who haven't seen it yet, there is n... Sat 11th July 2009, 8:01pm everyking This is junk. An advisory council to the ArbCom? W... Sat 11th July 2009, 12:34am Kelly Martin This is junk. An advisory council to the ArbCom? W... Sat 11th July 2009, 12:47am everyking
[quote name='everyking' post='183003' date='Fri 1... Sat 11th July 2009, 12:56am Sarcasticidealist I proposed a much superior alternative yesterday--... Sat 11th July 2009, 1:01am everyking
I proposed a much superior alternative yesterday-... Sat 11th July 2009, 1:15am sbrown
If the ArbCom created such a committee itself, de... Sat 11th July 2009, 5:36am Sarcasticidealist If the ArbCom created such a committee itself, dec... Sat 11th July 2009, 4:48pm Cock-up-over-conspiracy [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitr... Sat 11th July 2009, 2:15am Somey [quote name='Eva Destruction' post='182947' date='... Sat 11th July 2009, 3:22pm Kelly Martin The whole thing is too vague anyway. If they'r... Sat 11th July 2009, 3:43pm Eva Destruction
The whole thing is too vague anyway. If they... Sat 11th July 2009, 4:43pm toddy Am I the only one who finds the fact that this ... Sat 11th July 2009, 2:43pm LaraLove I'm to the point that I want to see change any... Sat 11th July 2009, 7:31pm Eva Destruction
I'm to the point that I want to see change an... Sat 11th July 2009, 7:56pm Somey Well, you can't please everyone, particularly ... Sat 11th July 2009, 8:55pm Eva Destruction
The [i]last thing you'd want to do is have th... Sat 11th July 2009, 9:36pm Kelly Martin I did not see this coming.
Protest resignation? K... Sat 11th July 2009, 9:51pm Cla68
[quote name='Eva Destruction' post='183176' date=... Sat 11th July 2009, 11:26pm LessHorrid vanU
[quote name='Eva Destruction' post='183176' date... Sat 11th July 2009, 11:40pm Nerd Heh. Let's hope they all quit.
[quote name='... Sat 11th July 2009, 10:40pm everyking
Heh. Let's hope they all quit.
[quote name=... Sun 12th July 2009, 1:24am Kelly Martin How about the remaining arbitrators acknowledge th... Sun 12th July 2009, 2:01am thekohser
Looking back at the events so far, I'd say th... Sun 12th July 2009, 2:18am GlassBeadGame
[quote name='Kelly Martin' post='183237' date='Sa... Sun 12th July 2009, 2:26am Nerd
Then we would watch Wikipedia quickly unravel.
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Then we would watch Wikipedia quickly unravel.
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How about the remaining arbitrators acknowledge t... Sun 12th July 2009, 2:43am Kelly Martin On the contrary, I think the idea of reforming Wik... Sun 12th July 2009, 2:54am No one of consequence
On the contrary, I think the idea of reforming Wi... Sun 12th July 2009, 4:43am Cock-up-over-conspiracy Has there ever been a truly independent, external ... Sun 12th July 2009, 7:53am Somey ...People either think Wikipedia needs genuine ref... Sun 12th July 2009, 3:08am Orderinchaos
Glad to see them go. How about the remaining arbi... Sun 12th July 2009, 9:49am LessHorrid vanU
Glad to see them go. How about the remaining arb... Sun 12th July 2009, 10:14am Orderinchaos
My eyes simply glazed over as soon as I read your... Sun 12th July 2009, 10:27am Sarcasticidealist Another one bites the dust.
Heh. Let's hope t... Sat 11th July 2009, 10:43pm Nerd
[quote name='Nerd' post='183185' date='Sat 11th J... Sat 11th July 2009, 10:46pm GlassBeadGame Why any group would want an "advisory council... Sat 11th July 2009, 11:29pm Kelly Martin The whole point of an advisory council is to provi... Sat 11th July 2009, 11:36pm Somey Surely there are online communities with expertise... Sat 11th July 2009, 11:54pm Somey I don't think it's all that surprising tha... Sat 11th July 2009, 11:34pm taiwopanfob Matisse bitterly complains that Kirill is acting i... Sun 12th July 2009, 12:06am Kelly Martin Curiously, he then goes to Kirill, post-resignatio... Sun 12th July 2009, 12:19am LaraLove
I'm to the point that I want to see change a... Sun 12th July 2009, 12:55am Peter Damian Will it surprise everyone here when I say I am bro... Sun 12th July 2009, 10:37am GlassBeadGame
Will it surprise everyone here when I say I am br... Sun 12th July 2009, 4:36pm Kelly Martin ArbCom's disappearance would probably have som... Sun 12th July 2009, 2:59pm Tony1 The Advisory Council is unconstitutional, because ... Sun 12th July 2009, 3:30pm taiwopanfob
The Advisory Council is unconstitutional, because... Sun 12th July 2009, 3:56pm Kelly Martin
The Advisory Council is unconstitutional, because... Sun 12th July 2009, 5:37pm Sarcasticidealist The ArbCom, like everyone else in Wikipedia, may d... Sun 12th July 2009, 10:35pm trenton Meh, the typical wikipedia clusterfuck.
Special a... Sun 12th July 2009, 6:47pm Eight So Kirill and Coren have both resigned. Anyone els... Sun 12th July 2009, 9:00pm Eva Destruction
So Kirill and Coren have both resigned. Anyone el... Sun 12th July 2009, 9:14pm Eight
So Kirill and Coren have both resigned. Anyone e... Sun 12th July 2009, 9:19pm everyking The most revealing aspect of the RfC, in my view, ... Mon 13th July 2009, 4:37am Cla68 Like I said before, if the ArbCom really wants to ... Mon 13th July 2009, 7:05am Peter Damian
Peter Damian or Greg Kohs will not destroy Wikipe... Mon 13th July 2009, 8:23am Cla68
People seem to be missing the between-the-lines p... Mon 13th July 2009, 10:06am A Horse With No Name Just a point of order: does anyone on Wikipedia ha... Mon 13th July 2009, 1:47pm Obesity
Just a point of order: does anyone on Wikipedia h... Mon 13th July 2009, 1:50pm A Horse With No Name
Jayjg is in his 40s and works "in managemen... Mon 13th July 2009, 1:55pm Obesity
Jayjg is in his 40s and works "in manageme... Mon 13th July 2009, 2:06pm A Horse With No Name
[quote name='A Horse With No Name' post='183509' ... Mon 13th July 2009, 2:07pm Obesity
[quote name='A Horse With No Name' post='183509'... Mon 13th July 2009, 2:08pm Kelly Martin Just a point of order: does anyone on Wikipedia ha... Mon 13th July 2009, 1:52pm trenton These grapes, they are so sour, I wouldn't eat... Mon 13th July 2009, 2:11pm
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