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The candidates have been announced. For checkuser: For oversight: Could be quite interesting!
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Hersfold:Blocked the notorious Kurt Weber. I'm uncertain if you can call this a "public service". QUOTE The admin who blocked him indef and blanked his userpage, User:Hersfold, is one of the teenage Twinkle/Huggle users whose only accomplishment on Wikipedia is using these tools to revert vandals and report improper usernames. Nicely put, very accurate. Directly involved in the Gail Trimble BLP stink. Managed to block Angela Beesley and Tim Starling, who were editing from a hotel without logging in--and was upbraided for it. Brilliant. With every such exploration of a WP admin's past history, I come ever closer to a realization: any young admin whose userpage is saturated with useless barnstars and userboxes is probably a "cult member". And is not mature enough to be a checkuser. This post has been edited by EricBarbour:
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Mr. Z-man is easy to look into. I've seen him directly involved in endless dramah on AN/I. So much dramah, that I won't even bother to give links to any of it. (Although this is a good one.) He's difficult to avoid or miss. Not really friendly with cabalistas, apparently. Has a sock used for Z-bot "testing". (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/yecch.gif) Apparently a student or staff at Case Western Reserve University. He's been called a " pompous doofus". Anyone on Kato's list of opponents to protection of BLPs might deserve that appellation. Ask him why he did this. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE(RMHED @ Sun 26th July 2009, 6:12pm) Ah yes, J.delanoy, he was the one who called for me to be community banned on AN/I and reported me to my ISP for libelling Jimmy Wales. Yet I still quite like him.
Can't say I'd blame you if you didn't like me anymore. That was not one of my more bright moments. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif) I gotta say, though, this was pretty epic. I'm glad you decided to stop....
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QUOTE(j.delanoy @ Mon 27th July 2009, 12:37pm) QUOTE(RMHED @ Sun 26th July 2009, 6:12pm) Ah yes, J.delanoy, he was the one who called for me to be community banned on AN/I and reported me to my ISP for libelling Jimmy Wales. Yet I still quite like him.
Can't say I'd blame you if you didn't like me anymore. That was not one of my more bright moments. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif) I gotta say, though, this was pretty epic. I'm glad you decided to stop.... Hey, J.d, that goes far beyond being a not-bright idea -- you intentionally made an effort to see that RMHED could face significant legal problems that could have cost him a shitload of money. And UK libel laws are more severe than US laws. And for what -- some childish scribble that was reverted immediately and created no damage whatsoever to Jimbo's reputation or the viability of Wikipedia? I am not saying RMHED is blameless, but your actions were beyond the pale. I wouldn't trust you to buy me a bale of hay, let alone give you access to confidential data. Aren't there any grown-ups in charge on Wikipedia? Or is it just a bunch of stupid children running things?
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 27th July 2009, 1:06pm) QUOTE(j.delanoy @ Mon 27th July 2009, 12:37pm) QUOTE(RMHED @ Sun 26th July 2009, 6:12pm) Ah yes, J.delanoy, he was the one who called for me to be community banned on AN/I and reported me to my ISP for libelling Jimmy Wales. Yet I still quite like him.
Can't say I'd blame you if you didn't like me anymore. That was not one of my more bright moments. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif) I gotta say, though, this was pretty epic. I'm glad you decided to stop.... Hey, J.d, that goes far beyond being a not-bright idea -- you intentionally made an effort to see that RMHED could face significant legal problems that could have cost him a shitload of money. And UK libel laws are more severe than US laws. And for what -- some childish scribble that was reverted immediately and created no damage whatsoever to Jimbo's reputation or the viability of Wikipedia? I am not saying RMHED is blameless, but your actions were beyond the pale. I wouldn't trust you to buy me a bale of hay, let alone give you access to confidential data. Aren't there any grown-ups in charge on Wikipedia? Or is it just a bunch of stupid children running things? Yes, you are correct. My actions were far in excess of what was needed in that situation, and I am happy that RMHED's provider ignored my letter. I like to think that in the time since then, I have become more cautious and thoughtful in my actions, but I am probably the least reliable source in that regard.
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QUOTE(j.delanoy @ Mon 27th July 2009, 1:24pm) QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 27th July 2009, 1:06pm) QUOTE(j.delanoy @ Mon 27th July 2009, 12:37pm) QUOTE(RMHED @ Sun 26th July 2009, 6:12pm) Ah yes, J.delanoy, he was the one who called for me to be community banned on AN/I and reported me to my ISP for libelling Jimmy Wales. Yet I still quite like him.
Can't say I'd blame you if you didn't like me anymore. That was not one of my more bright moments. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif) I gotta say, though, this was pretty epic. I'm glad you decided to stop.... Hey, J.d, that goes far beyond being a not-bright idea -- you intentionally made an effort to see that RMHED could face significant legal problems that could have cost him a shitload of money. And UK libel laws are more severe than US laws. And for what -- some childish scribble that was reverted immediately and created no damage whatsoever to Jimbo's reputation or the viability of Wikipedia? I am not saying RMHED is blameless, but your actions were beyond the pale. I wouldn't trust you to buy me a bale of hay, let alone give you access to confidential data. Aren't there any grown-ups in charge on Wikipedia? Or is it just a bunch of stupid children running things? Yes, you are correct. My actions were far in excess of what was needed in that situation, and I am happy that RMHED's provider ignored my letter. I like to think that in the time since then, I have become more cautious and thoughtful in my actions, but I am probably the least reliable source in that regard. RMHED said that you advocated his being community banned. Considering that a lot of time has passed since that episode, and considering what you did and what could have transpired if the ISP didn't ignore you, why don't you do something decent and ask the "community" to consider unbanning him? He cannot post a message on the AN board himself -- it wouldn't hurt you to put up a message on the AN board asking if the "community" would consider reintegrating him into the Wikipedia swim. What do you say, J.d -- it would show that you genuinely possess leadership skills.
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 27th July 2009, 6:56pm) QUOTE(j.delanoy @ Mon 27th July 2009, 1:24pm) QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 27th July 2009, 1:06pm) QUOTE(j.delanoy @ Mon 27th July 2009, 12:37pm) QUOTE(RMHED @ Sun 26th July 2009, 6:12pm) Ah yes, J.delanoy, he was the one who called for me to be community banned on AN/I and reported me to my ISP for libelling Jimmy Wales. Yet I still quite like him.
Can't say I'd blame you if you didn't like me anymore. That was not one of my more bright moments. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif) I gotta say, though, this was pretty epic. I'm glad you decided to stop.... Hey, J.d, that goes far beyond being a not-bright idea -- you intentionally made an effort to see that RMHED could face significant legal problems that could have cost him a shitload of money. And UK libel laws are more severe than US laws. And for what -- some childish scribble that was reverted immediately and created no damage whatsoever to Jimbo's reputation or the viability of Wikipedia? I am not saying RMHED is blameless, but your actions were beyond the pale. I wouldn't trust you to buy me a bale of hay, let alone give you access to confidential data. Aren't there any grown-ups in charge on Wikipedia? Or is it just a bunch of stupid children running things? Yes, you are correct. My actions were far in excess of what was needed in that situation, and I am happy that RMHED's provider ignored my letter. I like to think that in the time since then, I have become more cautious and thoughtful in my actions, but I am probably the least reliable source in that regard. RMHED said that you advocated his being community banned. Considering that a lot of time has passed since that episode, and considering what you did and what could have transpired if the ISP didn't ignore you, why don't you do something decent and ask the "community" to consider unbanning him? He cannot post a message on the AN board himself -- it wouldn't hurt you to put up a message on the AN board asking if the "community" would consider reintegrating him into the Wikipedia swim. What do you say, J.d -- it would show that you genuinely possess leadership skills. My being unbanned or not is solely at the discretion of arbcom, and the very last thing I'd want is for 'discussion' on the AN. Thanks for the thought though Horsey.
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Wait a minute. Thatcher wasn't mentioned in the original list of nominees, and yet there he is now...... And if you need some sick laughter, have a look at Jehochman's intended vote in this election, complete with half-assed justifications..... (remember Hochman's attempts to cover up Sam Blacketer's activities? I'd like to ram a sockpuppet up Hochman's ass....) This post has been edited by EricBarbour:
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 27th July 2009, 11:56am) QUOTE(Ahypori @ Sun 26th July 2009, 6:45pm) Ah, guilt-by-association. Those people on WR bitch about us here on WP. We all know there's nothing to bitch about. And besides, it's a well-known fact that anybody who criticizes a government is unpatriotic. What does that make somebody who criticizes WP, which hardly has any government? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/ohmy.gif) Even worse! Caspian Blue wants to know where's your loyalty. Loyal opposition is an oxymoron, which is why you never hear the term, except on WR. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif) Still at it, it seems. I note how all the links to here are criticism of that user anyway. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 28th July 2009, 1:41am) QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 27th July 2009, 6:58pm) And if you need some sick laughter, have a look at Jehochman's intended vote in this election, complete with half-assed justifications..... Kind of sad for a man of his age to be making an "I Like Them/I Hate Them" list. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif) Jehochman is a clot.
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QUOTE(Malleus @ Mon 27th July 2009, 9:02pm) QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 28th July 2009, 1:41am) QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 27th July 2009, 6:58pm) And if you need some sick laughter, have a look at Jehochman's intended vote in this election, complete with half-assed justifications..... Kind of sad for a man of his age to be making an "I Like Them/I Hate Them" list. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif) Jehochman is a clot. Malley baby, you're adorable. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif)
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QUOTE(LaraLove @ Wed 29th July 2009, 11:04am) I'm getting opposed for my category deletion fail. That makes no sense to me. First, it was a misunderstanding in how a tool would work. Second, I acknowledged the mistake before the tool even finished running. Third, I apologized for creating a mess. And fourth, I immediately went to fixing the mistake. Some people helped me out because they wanted to (I recall Law restored a good deal), but I restored more than half of them myself. Not to mention, it's wholly unrelated to Oversight.
Seriously. Of all the reasons people can use to oppose me, I get this?
This is why the community can't be trusted to elect people.
Yeah, but look who your opposition is: Aitias, Prodego, Protonk, Caspian Blue, Pzrmd, Noroton, Jehochman, KillerChihuahua, Bishonen, Ceranthor, Raul654, Short Brigade Harvester Boris, Toddst1…is there a brain cell in the bunch? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) Besides, the cool kids are the ones who are voting for you – even little Shappy is in there pitching for LaraLove! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/boing.gif) We need more of the WR team to do their part. Hey, out there – Petey, Eric, Xeno, Kohs, and the rest of you mugs! Get off your backsides and join Team Lara! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wub.gif) This post has been edited by A Horse With No Name:
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Wed 29th July 2009, 11:25am) Yeah, but look who your opposition is: Aitias, Prodego, Protonk, Caspian Blue, Pzrmd, Noroton, Jehochman, KillerChihuahua, Bishonen, Ceranthor, Raul654, Short Brigade Harvester Boris, Toddst1…is there a brain cell in the bunch? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) Besides, the cool kids are the ones who are voting for you – even little Shappy is in there pitching for LaraLove! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/boing.gif) We need more of the WR team to do their part. Hey, out there – Petey, Eric, Xeno, Kohs, and the rest of you mugs! Get off your backsides and join Team Lara! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wub.gif) Lara clearly doesn't know how to win a popularity contest. =] This post has been edited by Apathetic:
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QUOTE(Grep @ Wed 29th July 2009, 11:28am) No, it just means it isn't the real reason. You annoyed too many well-connected people, that's why.
I believe "annoyed" is putting it lightly. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif) I think "pissed off", though still light, is closer. QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Wed 29th July 2009, 11:25am) Yeah, but look who your opposition is: Aitias, Prodego, Protonk, Caspian Blue, Pzrmd, Noroton, Jehochman, KillerChihuahua, Bishonen, Ceranthor, Raul654, Short Brigade Harvester Boris, Toddst1…is there a brain cell in the bunch? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) I don't care about the votes from the familiar faces. Those were expected. The retaliation votes, grudge votes, IDONTLIKEHER votes... all expected. It's the others -- the people whose names I don't recognize and those who I didn't expect to oppose -- that I am curious as to the reasoning. And those who specifically opposed for the cat deletions; I don't get it. QUOTE(Apathetic @ Wed 29th July 2009, 11:29am) Lara clearly doesn't know how to win a popularity contest. =]
Nor would I want to. I've never had the type of personality everyone likes. You either hate me or you love me to death. There's not a lot of in between. I much prefer it that way. Never one to be fake or kiss ass, I make lots of enemies; and that doesn't bother me because I don't like most people anyway.
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QUOTE(LaraLove @ Wed 29th July 2009, 12:28pm) You either hate me or you love me to death. You know where I stand! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wub.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/boing.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif) What this effort needs is intimidation. If Juliancolton can scare KillerChihuahua without even trying, think of what he can do if he puts his mind to being tough. Someone track down Julian and tell him we need his two-fisted machismo! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE(Apathetic @ Wed 29th July 2009, 11:29am) Lara clearly doesn't know how to win a popularity contest. =]
Xeno, get your sorry ass off your couch and get over to the Oversight election board and vote for Lara. Either that or you'll have to answer to Julian...and if you want to push your luck, I'll give Shappy some brass knuckles and send him your way, too! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif) This post has been edited by A Horse With No Name:
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Wed 29th July 2009, 12:42pm) Xeno, get your sorry ass off your couch and get over to the Oversight election board and vote for Lara. Either that or you'll have to answer to Julian...and if you want to push your luck, I'll give Shappy some brass knuckles and send him your way, too! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif) Lara needs another 59 people to support, and no more opposition, to even reach the floor. Besides, I don't even really feel like participating in an election of which I was unaware until after the nomination period was over. What a sham. This post has been edited by Apathetic:
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QUOTE(LaraLove @ Wed 29th July 2009, 4:04pm) I'm getting opposed for my category deletion fail. That makes no sense to me. First, it was a misunderstanding in how a tool would work. Second, I acknowledged the mistake before the tool even finished running. Third, I apologized for creating a mess. And fourth, I immediately went to fixing the mistake. Some people helped me out because they wanted to (I recall Law restored a good deal), but I restored more than half of them myself. Not to mention, it's wholly unrelated to Oversight.
Seriously. Of all the reasons people can use to oppose me, I get this?
This is why the community can't be trusted to elect people.
You mean you made a mistake, acknowledged it, fixed it? I mean, of all the reasons people could have opposed for... that was rather ridiculous. But, you say the community can't be trusted to elect people... who should then?
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QUOTE(Apathetic @ Wed 29th July 2009, 12:55pm) QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Wed 29th July 2009, 12:42pm) Xeno, get your sorry ass off your couch and get over to the Oversight election board and vote for Lara. Either that or you'll have to answer to Julian...and if you want to push your luck, I'll give Shappy some brass knuckles and send him your way, too! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif) Lara needs another 59 people to support, and no more opposition, to even reach the floor. Don't worry about that -- between Julian bullying the opposition to withdraw and Jon's sock drawer, we'll get her to the floor. QUOTE(Apathetic @ Wed 29th July 2009, 12:55pm) Besides, I don't even really feel like participating in an election of which I was unaware until after the nomination period was over. What a sham.
You...you...you...apathetic! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/angry.gif)
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QUOTE(Nerd @ Wed 29th July 2009, 6:04pm) But, you say the community can't be trusted to elect people... who should then?
The Solution Bertolt Brecht After the uprising of the 17th June The Secretary of the Writers Union Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee Stating that the people Had forfeited the confidence of the government And could win it back only By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier In that case for the government To dissolve the people And elect another?
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Wed 29th July 2009, 1:24pm) I fear there are more powerful forces at work than Horsey.
Srsly, and not even all the cabals have showed up! It's only day 2 of 14, people. And I'm letting this ride out to 4% support! QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Wed 29th July 2009, 1:34pm) QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Wed 29th July 2009, 1:24pm) I fear there are more powerful forces at work than Horsey.
Don't you worry your pretty little head about that, Petey. Those forces don't realize my double life. For the most part, I am a mild-mannered equine who offers fun-loving commentary on Wikipedia trends and personalities. But when the shit hits the fan, I become...Super-Horse: (IMG: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ad/Comet-action292.PNG) Yes, that is Lara on my back! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 29th July 2009, 3:19pm) Many of the rest of the oppose are just lemming effect: they want to be on the side of the angels, and as it's obvious that you're going to fail they want to be on record as opposing the failure. Funny, I generally take the opposite approach, if any, so when things go badly (as things are wont to do) I can point out that they'd be different if my side had prevailed. In at least one two person election, I have voted for the candidate who I knew would lose solely so I could stand proudly and say "Don't look at me, I voted for the other guy."
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 29th July 2009, 3:21pm) QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Wed 29th July 2009, 2:10pm) Funny, I generally take the opposite approach, if any, so when things go badly (as things are wont to do) I can point out that they'd be different if my side had prevailed. In at least one two person election, I have voted for the candidate who I knew would lose solely so I could stand proudly and say "Don't look at me, I voted for the other guy." Nobody ever got to be an administrator by sucking up to a loser. No, you become an admin by gaming the system, putting on the false facade of puppy devotion to Wikipedia and a shocking sense of cheerful helpfulness to your fellow editors. Then when you get the mop, you turn into Protonk.
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