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Has Wikipedia Created a Rorschach Cheat Sheet? New York Times
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post Wed 29th July 2009, 12:17pm
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Since those inkblots were published before 1923, they are definitely public domain in the United States. The pshrinks don't even have the sort of claim the NPG is making to a new copyright based on doing new work to make a photograph of an old picture. They're just trying to get everybody else to comply with their self-serving practices, using vague, ill-founded legal threats. The same bunch has already gotten American Mensa to stop giving specific IQ scores to those who take their tests, because that would be "practicing psychology without a license" and supposedly against various state laws. (The Mensa test is now just "pass/fail" where they only tell you if you're accepted or not.) Anything that knocks the psychologists down a few pegs is fine with me. (No, I'm not using Wikipedia as a revenge platform... nosirree.)
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post Wed 29th July 2009, 1:55pm
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QUOTE(dtobias @ Wed 29th July 2009, 6:17am) *

Since those inkblots were published before 1923, they are definitely public domain in the United States. The pshrinks don't even have the sort of claim the NPG is making to a new copyright based on doing new work to make a photograph of an old picture. They're just trying to get everybody else to comply with their self-serving practices, using vague, ill-founded legal threats. The same bunch has already gotten American Mensa to stop giving specific IQ scores to those who take their tests, because that would be "practicing psychology without a license" and supposedly against various state laws. (The Mensa test is now just "pass/fail" where they only tell you if you're accepted or not.) Anything that knocks the psychologists down a few pegs is fine with me. (No, I'm not using Wikipedia as a revenge platform... nosirree.)


I didn't know Mensa didn't use full safeguards and rigors, including the use of licensed professionals administering the tests. It seems to me if you want to hold your members out as having a certain psychological attribute you would want to do so. Is it like fortune telling then? Does the Mensa wall plaque say "for entertainment purposes only?"
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Wed 29th July 2009, 9:55am) *

I didn't know Mensa didn't use full safeguards and rigors, including the use of licensed professionals administering the tests. It seems to me if you want to hold your members out as having a certain psychological attribute you would want to do so. Is it like fortune telling then? Does the Mensa wall plaque say "for entertainment purposes only?"


Mensa has a Supervisory Psychologist at the national and international levels to certify that proper test standards are used; he/she is licensed. However, the local administration of the tests is by volunteer proctors who have to undergo some minor training but aren't psychologists; that is why the psychologist profession insists Mensa not actually call the tests "IQ tests" or give a precise score from them.
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QUOTE(dtobias @ Wed 29th July 2009, 10:58am) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Wed 29th July 2009, 9:55am) *

I didn't know Mensa didn't use full safeguards and rigors, including the use of licensed professionals administering the tests. It seems to me if you want to hold your members out as having a certain psychological attribute you would want to do so. Is it like fortune telling then? Does the Mensa wall plaque say "for entertainment purposes only?"


Mensa has a Supervisory Psychologist at the national and international levels to certify that proper test standards are used; he/she is licensed. However, the local administration of the tests is by volunteer proctors who have to undergo some minor training but aren't psychologists; that is why the psychologist profession insists Mensa not actually call the tests "IQ tests" or give a precise score from them.


So Mensa employees a psychologist who does not adhere to the standards of the profession for the purpose of administering the tests?
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Wed 29th July 2009, 12:20pm) *
So Mensa employees a psychologist who does not adhere to the standards of the profession for the purpose of administering the tests?

More importantly, does this mean my own IQ score of 457 is likely to be declared "invalid" merely because the test was administered by Squeebles, my pet hamster?

Squeebles won't be happy about that... not at all.
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QUOTE(Somey @ Wed 29th July 2009, 9:37pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Wed 29th July 2009, 12:20pm) *
So Mensa employees a psychologist who does not adhere to the standards of the profession for the purpose of administering the tests?

More importantly, does this mean my own IQ score of 457 is likely to be declared "invalid" merely because the test was administered by Squeebles, my pet hamster?

Squeebles won't be happy about that... not at all.

The only proper IQ tests given by animals are administered by cats. Differentiate "I want out" meow from "I want a can of catfood" meow, and you pass. Barely.

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Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Rorschach_test_images

Lulzworthy comments from the talk page from (an apparent raging psychotic ;>) iridescent:

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*Who is going to write the [[WP:ALT|alt text]]? —mattisse 20:10, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

::Ooh, can I have a go? [[File:Rorschach blot 04.jpg|alt=Fat chick on a motorbike... no, wait, a sheepskin rug... oh, hang on, it's a butterfly... or is it a flasher with an improbably long manhood...]] – iridescent 20:17, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
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Newsfeed   Has Wikipedia Created a Rorschach Cheat Sheet? - New York Times   Wed 29th July 2009, 2:22am
Apathetic   'Twas only a matter of time...   Wed 29th July 2009, 3:22am
Malleus   The Rorschach test was secretive crap anyway, so w...   Wed 29th July 2009, 4:25am
Jon Awbrey   Same Ol' Same Ol' — Wikipediots, having...   Wed 29th July 2009, 12:36pm
Apathetic   Fox video wherein one anchorman gives a mock Rorsc...   Wed 29th July 2009, 5:24pm
Cla68   Why don't psychologists want the Rorschach ima...   Tue 11th August 2009, 11:57pm
CharlotteWebb   Is there any reason not to merge this with the pre...   Wed 12th August 2009, 5:53pm
Apathetic   (or vice versa, I don't see how it fits in ...   Wed 12th August 2009, 6:07pm
dtobias   I don't support anybody having a "right t...   Wed 29th July 2009, 12:47pm
Jon Awbrey   I don't support anybody having a "right ...   Wed 29th July 2009, 1:04pm
dtobias   I don't support anybody having a "right...   Wed 29th July 2009, 1:21pm
Jon Awbrey   [quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='186255' date='Wed ...   Wed 29th July 2009, 2:05pm
MBisanz   It would appear the comments are trending 33-1 in ...   Wed 29th July 2009, 12:56pm
Kelly Martin   The Rorschach blots are routinely used for very qu...   Wed 29th July 2009, 2:07pm
Jon Awbrey   The Rorschach blots are routinely used for very q...   Wed 29th July 2009, 2:17pm
GlassBeadGame   The Rorschach blots are routinely used for very q...   Wed 29th July 2009, 2:17pm
Kelly Martin   Currently, however, psychologists undergo accredit...   Wed 29th July 2009, 2:23pm
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='186267' date='W...   Wed 29th July 2009, 2:30pm
Kelly Martin   I'm certain that you are aware that their are ...   Wed 29th July 2009, 2:46pm
Jon Awbrey   Those safeguards are routinely circumvented in so...   Wed 29th July 2009, 3:00pm
LaraLove   Those safeguards are routinely circumvented in s...   Wed 29th July 2009, 3:12pm
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='186276' date='Wed ...   Wed 29th July 2009, 3:39pm
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='186272' date='W...   Wed 29th July 2009, 3:08pm
Jon Awbrey   The takeaway from this whole situation is that Wi...   Wed 29th July 2009, 3:41pm
Malleus   And if a psychologist gets you declared mentally i...   Tue 4th August 2009, 2:49am
LaraLove   I just clicked through the ten plates. Results of ...   Wed 29th July 2009, 2:22pm
zvook   I realized this had become very public when I read...   Mon 3rd August 2009, 10:35pm
dtobias   So far, it seems like in pretty much every one of ...   Mon 3rd August 2009, 11:09pm
GlassBeadGame   So far, it seems like in pretty much every one of...   Tue 4th August 2009, 12:01am
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