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QUOTE(WikiWatch @ Thu 13th August 2009, 3:00am) *

Not sure if it's possible to accurately measure POV. One solution is to simple publish a list of problems inherent to articles, listing biases etc. It would be something like Rational wiki's articles such as one the on Citizendium, but perhaps a lot more detailed then what they skim over:

http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Citizendium#Crank_magnet


QUOTE(gomi @ Thu 13th August 2009, 10:00am) *

If someone could figure out how to measure the POV-pushing and ownership of various articles, that would go a long way toward highlighting the inherent unreliability of Wikipedia over a multitude of subjects. But measuring POV is problematic. The first step, I venture would be to simple compile a list of biased and/or battleground articles, from Armenia (T-H-L-K-D) to Ireland (T-H-L-K-D) and from Evolution (T-H-L-K-D) to PETA (T-H-L-K-D). Some statistics on those articles and their owners might be illuminating.



It's completely impossible to measure POV in any reasonably objective way. While it is easy enough to find qualified experts to check the accuracy of an article, it's nearly impossible to find anyone who would be universally considered a qualified expert to check the neutrality of an article. With a few notable exceptions, the articles that are the subject of the most POV-pushing on Wikipedia are the subject of the most POV-pushing in the real world. Beyond that, measuring bias is an inherently subjective task.

On the other hand, "ownership of various articles" could be measured with a method similar to the PARC study. Just take a sample of articles, and see how likely an edit made by someone who is not a major contributor to the article is to be reverted and you already have a fair measure for ownership.
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Newsfeed   Wikipedia approaches its limits - guardian.co.uk   Wed 12th August 2009, 12:59pm
Moulton   This is a well-written article with lots of good a...   Wed 12th August 2009, 1:13pm
Kato   As Somey defined it, this it the "maintenanc...   Wed 12th August 2009, 4:29pm
Moulton   As Somey defined it, this is the "maintenance...   Wed 12th August 2009, 7:27pm
Kelly Martin   The "struggle" between "inclusionis...   Wed 12th August 2009, 5:23pm
Milton Roe   The "struggle" between "inclusioni...   Wed 12th August 2009, 7:38pm
Kelly Martin   But if you remember that most kids don't need...   Wed 12th August 2009, 11:31pm
Push the button   Throughout South America, most net access is at i...   Thu 13th August 2009, 10:40am
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   I am reminded of Colin M. Turnbull's seminal b...   Fri 14th August 2009, 1:29am
Milton Roe   This is a good reminder Milton. I am sure that mo...   Fri 14th August 2009, 2:35am
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   We'll fight them on the beaches ... etc Milto...   Fri 14th August 2009, 2:24am
gomi   The "struggle" between "inclusionis...   Thu 13th August 2009, 12:00am
WikiWatch   Not sure if it's possible to accurately measur...   Thu 13th August 2009, 3:00am
TungstenCarbide   Guardian: Wikipedia approaches its limits did so...   Wed 12th August 2009, 5:32pm
Kato   [b][url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/200...   Wed 12th August 2009, 6:13pm
Limey   Not sure if it's possible to accurately measu...   Thu 13th August 2009, 4:26pm
Kelly Martin   On the other hand, "ownership of various arti...   Thu 13th August 2009, 7:41pm
Sarcasticidealist   On the other hand, "ownership of various arti...   Thu 13th August 2009, 7:51pm
Kelly Martin   For most of the articles I work on, I'm the on...   Thu 13th August 2009, 8:32pm


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