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> Cleaning up after Dr. Blofeld, ..he can do it himself (Yepp: I'm quitting wp)
The Adversary
post Tue 18th August 2009, 4:27pm
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Whaw: who would have guessed: after years of complaining and raging again "the cabal" on wp; the person to force me out of turns out to be...Dr. Blofeld (T-C-L-K-R-D) ,

May I introduce myself, I am Huldra (T-C-L-K-R-D) on wp (Btw; I have criticized SlimVirgin every way I could for these last few years....except for her silly user-name. As I am probably the only person on WP to have chosen an even sillier user-name biggrin.gif )

Now, about 3 years ago, utterly pissed off by Jayjg and Slim, I found my own quiet little corner of Israel/Palestine -articles: Palestinian Arab villages depopulated during the 1948 Palestine War

It was a strange little corner of Wikipedia; every now and then some newbie would start a horrible stub, often half in Arabic, with tons and tons of WP:OR. Typically they would only do a few edits (less that 20) and then disappear from WP totally......which then the "clean-up-task-force" (read: mostly me, Al Ameer son, Tiamut, Ashely (when he´s not blocked) ) would come along and clean up.

So we would turn this into Al-Muzayri'a . And this into Al-Nabi_Yusha' . And this into Saqiya.

Not superb any of them, but at least a decent start. This last one is typical: I think someone simply put the Khalidi-text (in Arabic) through some automatic translation ..so you get gems like "in recent years on the assignment," ...meaning: "in the last years of the (British) Mandate (of Palestine)" tongue.gif

Oh, and some we just never got around cleaning up: Al-Ja'una

So, slowly, steadfast during the last couple of years we have been progressing. The huge template has been invaluable...but I could only navigate around it because many of the links were red.

Until yesterday. Blofeld comes along and find he does not like red links, and decides that he will start all the red-linked villages...and turn the whole template into on huuuge green soup. And does just that.

Now, I cannot manage to navigate with it anymore.
Oh, well, Blofeld say he will work on the articles, and he does, but he does not have the sources (books). So far he has added nothing to the "public knowledge", he only copies from web-sites which were freely available, anyway. Re-inventing (or: re-writing) the wheel, so to speak. Now, if actually got hold of the books and educated himself on the topic: great. But I fear that in a short time he will be gone (he has a million other articles to attend too, as he has informed us.)

I liked this comment about reaching 3 mill articles on wp: "great, I've managed to poo in every room in the house"

Well, I leave it to Blofeld to clean up his own diarrhoea, eh, poo. I´m out.
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post Tue 18th August 2009, 5:03pm
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You have learnt a lesson the hard way

Now you are wiser as to wikipedia

chalk it up to experience
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post Tue 18th August 2009, 5:19pm
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I'm always disappointed when I find out the Wikipedia user name of a WR poster, and it turns out to be somebody I've never heard of. Personally, I'd always hoped that the Adversary was Newyorkbrad.

Anyway, happy trails. Will you be sticking around here?
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post Tue 18th August 2009, 5:29pm
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QUOTE(The Adversary @ Tue 18th August 2009, 11:27am) *
Oh, well, Blofeld say he will work on the articles, and he does, but he does not have the sources (books). So far he has added nothing to the "public knowledge", he only copies from web-sites which were freely available, anyway. Re-inventing (or: re-writing) the wheel, so to speak. Now, if actually got hold of the books and educated himself on the topic: great. But I fear that in a short time he will be gone (he has a million other articles to attend too, as he has informed us.)

He won't work on the articles to any significant extent - if you press him on the subject, he'll probably make a token effort just to get you to stop, and then he'll just move on to the next mass page-creation nightmare, whatever it happens to be that week. If you "RfC" him he'll claim he's being victimized, and if anyone else criticizes him for it he'll make a big show of pretending to quit Wikipedia forever, and then return to his old habits within a week, sometimes less.

He's one of the worst there is, at least in terms of creating shit content. Maybe the worst. We often focus on WP'ers who are manipulative, pushy, and abusive towards others, which Blofeld is mostly not - but in terms of real, lasting damage to the cause of knowledge and intellectual inquiry, most of those people don't hold a candle to him.
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post Tue 18th August 2009, 5:37pm
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There's a proposal up at the village pump to curtain such activities, or at least get someone to vet them...

Wikipedia:VPP#Proposal:_Any_large-scale_semi-.2Fautomated_article_creation_task_require_BRFA
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post Tue 18th August 2009, 5:44pm
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QUOTE(Apathetic @ Tue 18th August 2009, 12:37pm) *
There's a proposal up at the village pump to curtain such activities, or at least get someone to vet them...

Wikipedia:VPP#Proposal:_Any_large-scale_semi-.2Fautomated_article_creation_task_require_BRFA

Ha! About frickin' time.

Not that they'll actually do anything about it - Wikipedia's usual modus operandi is to have Jimbo announce to the press that WP is now "more concerned about quality than quantity," all while the site does nothing to stop people like Blofeld from further plunging the shrinking user community into a permanent site-wide maintenance nightmare.
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post Tue 18th August 2009, 5:48pm
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QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Tue 18th August 2009, 5:19pm) *

I'm always disappointed when I find out the Wikipedia user name of a WR poster, and it turns out to be somebody I've never heard of. Personally, I'd always hoped that the Adversary was Newyorkbrad.

Anyway, happy trails. Will you be sticking around here?

I saw him at Naked short selling last summer. He chipped in when Janneyryan and JohnnyB256 seemed to be doing a tag team.
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post Tue 18th August 2009, 5:54pm
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QUOTE(One @ Tue 18th August 2009, 12:48pm) *
I saw him at Naked short selling last summer. He chipped in when Janneyryan and JohnnyB256 seemed to be doing a tag team.

It's "her," isn't it? "Huldra" isn't something a guy would call himself, unless he were... you know. AFAIK the word refers to a kind of mythical Scandanavian temptress who lives in forests and kills men who fail to get the job done, if you know what I'm sayin'.

Oops, wait, there's a WP article on the subject...
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post Tue 18th August 2009, 6:09pm
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QUOTE(Somey @ Tue 18th August 2009, 5:54pm) *

QUOTE(One @ Tue 18th August 2009, 12:48pm) *
I saw him at Naked short selling last summer. He chipped in when Janneyryan and JohnnyB256 seemed to be doing a tag team.

It's "her," isn't it? "Huldra" isn't something a guy would call himself, unless he were... you know. AFAIK the word refers to a kind of mythical Scandanavian temptress who lives in forests and kills men who fail to get the job done, if you know what I'm sayin'.

Oh. I tend to do that. Sorry.

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Oops, wait, there's a WP article on the subject...

Now you're just going to excite horsey.
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post Tue 18th August 2009, 7:02pm
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I ran into this Blofeld kid once before.. I don't remember where, but it was another case of mass-creating articles with almost no content. In that case, there was already a main article that had all the same info. He appears to earnestly believe that a higher number of discrete pages is always better.

I tried to convince him otherwise and I found him very unresponsive to reason. Almost immediately, he stopped participating in any relevant and useful discussing, and instead started whining about how evil admins are. So I gave up.
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post Tue 18th August 2009, 7:16pm
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QUOTE(One @ Tue 18th August 2009, 2:09pm) *

QUOTE(Somey @ Tue 18th August 2009, 5:54pm) *

Oops, wait, there's a WP article on the subject...

Now you're just going to excite horsey.


Eh, phooey -- Horsey doesn't like this Huldra. Remember, this broad recommended turning me into a gelding! sick.gif I wouldn't touch her with a 10-foot pole. However, I know a 10-inch Pole who might be interested in chatting her up! evilgrin.gif


QUOTE(Friday @ Tue 18th August 2009, 3:02pm) *

I ran into this Blofeld kid once before.. I don't remember where, but it was another case of mass-creating articles with almost no content. In that case, there was already a main article that had all the same info. He appears to earnestly believe that a higher number of discrete pages is always better.


That's why they call him Earnest Blofeld. wink.gif

QUOTE(Friday @ Tue 18th August 2009, 3:02pm) *

I tried to convince him otherwise and I found him very unresponsive to reason.


Maybe you're just a lousy communicator? ermm.gif

QUOTE(The Adversary @ Tue 18th August 2009, 12:27pm) *

Until yesterday. Blofeld comes along and find he does not like red links, and decides that he will start all the red-linked villages...and turn the whole template into on huuuge green soup. And does just that.


That's my Blo! He deserves a big Horsey kiss! laugh.gif
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post Tue 18th August 2009, 8:13pm
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So, slowly, steadfast during the last couple of years we have been progressing. The huge template has been invaluable...but I could only navigate around it because many of the links were red.

Until yesterday. Blofeld comes along and find he does not like red links, and decides that he will start all the red-linked villages...and turn the whole template into on huuuge green soup. And does just that.

Now, I cannot manage to navigate with it anymore.

A shame. Some people (ahem) managed to get enough teeth into WP:REDLINK some time ago to get Blofeld sanctioned for this. If you were willing to make a case of it. I don't think Blofeld's Wiki-rep underwear are quite clean, so he's vulnerable. If you know what I'm sayin. Little bald guy with a neckbrace in a wheelchair just now. No cat in evidence. Needs to meet Bond flying a helicopter, looking for revenge for Tracy....
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post Tue 18th August 2009, 8:33pm
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Dr. Blofeld is a pox on Wikipedia. He creates thousands of useless stubs without actually contributing anything useful.

He's been making a mess for years. He's pissed off many, but no one can really do anything about it.

QUOTE(Friday @ Tue 18th August 2009, 3:02pm) *

I ran into this Blofeld kid once before.. I don't remember where, but it was another case of mass-creating articles with almost no content.


I remember where, because you've posted about it before. It was regarding mass-creation of highway stubs.

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post Tue 18th August 2009, 8:55pm
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 18th August 2009, 4:13pm) *

A shame. Some people (ahem) managed to get enough teeth into WP:REDLINK some time ago


I'm no dentist, but I'm having trouble finding these teeth you speak of ?
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Apparently Blofeld lurks here, as he's on the warpath now;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Adm...ersonal_attacks
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post Tue 18th August 2009, 9:15pm
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 18th August 2009, 4:05pm) *

Apparently Blofeld lurks here, as he's on the warpath now;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Adm...ersonal_attacks


Since I cant say this on-wiki after a warning for "personal attacks", Blofeld is a cunt.
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post Tue 18th August 2009, 9:23pm
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Oh, I love Blofeld -- good for you, character! smile.gif

And a big Horsey kiss to Malleus for his input in that smackdown. wub.gif

But the August Asshole Award goes to Protonk for this pithy comment in the midst of the talk:

"I'd block him for the unbelievably over the top personal attack/harangue, but I don't want the drama, honestly." - Protonk

Yes, he is staking out a damn highland on that one! wink.gif

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Same old, same old. We saw this with Aitias, who tried to get EricBarbour blocked.
Even if they don't post here, a lot of the most active Wikipedians read here.

You know, because there isn't nearly enough drama provided by the noticeboards.

I guess we can now debate which is the more entertaining result. Aitias starting a thread asking for a block, or Blofeld going around personally attacking people who said mean things about him.

off topic question: what happened to Naerii/Kamryn? I recall she was made a mod, but I haven't seen her around.

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Well, now Smashville unblocked him. That was fun. blink.gif
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Ah, my very last DYK: "Did you know, that The Adversary on the wikipediareview website has reputation for being extremely nasty and unpleasant about other wikipedians?" (We can take that as a co-nom, Blofeld and Huldra) wink.gif

And anyway, I am also a stinking nasty little bitch. blink.gif

Oh boy. I have been working on these 48-villages for 3+ years. Now the "Bible" here is the book by Khalidi (1992) , + Morris (2004). Blofeldt does not, AFAK, have even these (basic) books available. When he starts all these articles about the 48-villages, he *only* copies/rehash material which is already on the net. He, IMHO, he simply does not "add value" to the net doing this. Call that what you want.

And by doing so he chase away those -at least one- who actually did "add value", ie added information which was not already freely available on the net.

I was literally sitting crying my eyes out last night, seeing what he was doing, knowing that it would chase me of WP. I felt run over by a bulldozer. So I don´t really care what he calls me (or I call him). The damage is done.
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QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Tue 18th August 2009, 5:19pm) *

I'm always disappointed when I find out the Wikipedia user name of a WR poster, and it turns out to be somebody I've never heard of. Personally, I'd always hoped that the Adversary was Newyorkbrad.

Anyway, happy trails. Will you be sticking around here?

I saw him at Naked short selling last summer. He chipped in when Janneyryan and JohnnyB256 seemed to be doing a tag team.

Ah yes, one of my better moment

(And I´m female! And, eh, born a true troll (It takes one to know one) ....and a hard-core feminist.. (That´s part of horsey that I´m eating in my avatar..yummy.. tongue.gif ) and yeah, I might stick around.
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