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Ahypori
post Mon 31st August 2009, 2:22am
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QUOTE(MBisanz @ Sun 30th August 2009, 7:17pm) *

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I'm amazed that some people actually consider MZMcBride's joke with Lara and the bot userpage bigger concerns than the ArbCom cases, highlighting only those in their opposition rather than the cases, and one person even switched from support to oppose over them. Some also seem to find the answers to questions 14 and 15 concerning, too. Is there something I'm missing here? It'll be disappointing if those generate enough opposition to sink the RfA.

In addition, there seems to be a significant amount of "he doesn't need the tools" opposes, despite the clarification to the answer to question 1. I thought that oppose rationale had been declared as nonsense years ago, yet people still seem to use it (and at the same time, worry about the declining number of active admins).


I've been opposed three times now for my signature style, yet never once have I been opposed for the Palin RFAR, heck I blocked Betacommand the week of my RFB and no one said anything. I really wouldn't go out on the limb of saying RFA is a consistent or accurate process, its just the only thing we have to work with.

Heh, I noticed that block when it appeared on my watchlist, and I was amazed no one said anything about it. I've been involved in RfAs long enough to know about silly reasons for opposition, but MZMcBride's RfA has surprised me.
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post Mon 31st August 2009, 3:56am
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QUOTE(MBisanz @ Mon 31st August 2009, 2:17am) *

I've been opposed three times now for my signature style, yet never once have I been opposed for the Palin RFAR, heck I blocked Betacommand the week of my RFB and no one said anything. I really wouldn't go out on the limb of saying RFA is a consistent or accurate process, its just the only thing we have to work with.

Well, as far as I'm concerned, you deserve a barnstar for your conduct in that case.

But the inconsistency is striking, yes.
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post Mon 31st August 2009, 4:58am
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Some selective editing...

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Trust me, I am a ... nut ...! evilgrin.gif


And no I haven't figured it out either. But Horsey's starting to grow on me.
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post Mon 31st August 2009, 9:14am
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Like a fungus?
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post Mon 31st August 2009, 10:52am
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QUOTE(SirFozzie @ Mon 31st August 2009, 5:14am) *

Like a fungus?


Beat it, Twiggy -- I'm working this side of the street. hrmph.gif


QUOTE(Lar @ Mon 31st August 2009, 12:58am) *

But Horsey's starting to grow on me.


Awww...and I haven't forgotten your little filly Roxie, either. Play your cards right, Lar, and you can have me for a son-in-law -- you'll have a house full of colts and fillies, and in the evening I can help myself to your brandy and play with your Lego set! (I can make a Lego version of Churchill Downs, too!). evilgrin.gif
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post Mon 31st August 2009, 12:06pm
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QUOTE(RMHED @ Sun 30th August 2009, 11:21pm) *

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Well, MZ and myself along with a few other WPians are meeting up soon. Considering those of us arriving from out of state are staying in the same hotel, which has a nice indoor pool, I assume poolside pics are about guaranteed. Just not sure you'll see them. laugh.gif


Hooray!!! Hot bodies at poolside, talking Wikipedia! Horsey like! Horsey like! boing.gifboing.gifboing.gifboing.gif

Hey, which hotel in what town? Maybe I can gallop into town to say hello! evilgrin.gif

PM your Wikipedia identity and I'll consider telling you.

Surely you must have worked out Horsey's Wikipedia ID by now!

First, you have to care.
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post Mon 31st August 2009, 12:27pm
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QUOTE(LessHorrid vanU @ Mon 31st August 2009, 8:06am) *

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PM your Wikipedia identity and I'll consider telling you.

Surely you must have worked out Horsey's Wikipedia ID by now!

First, you have to care.

And clearly I do, considering I asked.

Your drive-by douchebaggery is far more annoying than anything Horsey could do.
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post Mon 31st August 2009, 12:48pm
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QUOTE(LaraLove @ Mon 31st August 2009, 8:27am) *


Your drive-by douchebaggery is far more annoying than anything Horsey could do.


Oh, I don't care -- anyone who looks like this deserves pity rather than scorn. rolleyes.gif

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post Mon 31st August 2009, 1:37pm
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QUOTE(MBisanz @ Mon 31st August 2009, 3:17am) *

I really wouldn't go out on the limb of saying RFA is a consistent or accurate process, its just the only thing we have to work with.


Anyone who did either has no clue whatsoever about RFA, or is an idiot.
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post Mon 31st August 2009, 11:56pm
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Now he's being asked how he'd close his own RfA. bored.gif That has to be one of the silliest questions I've seen yet on an RfA, especially since it's relevant to RfB, and RfB candidates don't even get asked how they'd close their own RfAs.
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post Tue 1st September 2009, 1:48am
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QUOTE(Ahypori @ Tue 1st September 2009, 12:56am) *

Now he's being asked how he'd close his own RfA. bored.gif That has to be one of the silliest questions I've seen yet on an RfA, especially since it's relevant to RfB, and RfB candidates don't even get asked how they'd close their own RfAs.

Seems like a perfectly sensible question to me.
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post Tue 1st September 2009, 1:53am
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QUOTE(Malleus @ Mon 31st August 2009, 9:48pm) *

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Now he's being asked how he'd close his own RfA. bored.gif That has to be one of the silliest questions I've seen yet on an RfA, especially since it's relevant to RfB, and RfB candidates don't even get asked how they'd close their own RfAs.

Seems like a perfectly sensible question to me.


Agreed. It is a surprisingly clever question. happy.gif
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post Tue 1st September 2009, 2:51pm
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QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 1st September 2009, 2:48am) *

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Now he's being asked how he'd close his own RfA. bored.gif That has to be one of the silliest questions I've seen yet on an RfA, especially since it's relevant to RfB, and RfB candidates don't even get asked how they'd close their own RfAs.

Seems like a perfectly sensible question to me.


I'm not understanding how it's sensible, or relevant. Do explain.
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QUOTE(Nerd @ Tue 1st September 2009, 3:51pm) *

QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 1st September 2009, 2:48am) *

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Now he's being asked how he'd close his own RfA. bored.gif That has to be one of the silliest questions I've seen yet on an RfA, especially since it's relevant to RfB, and RfB candidates don't even get asked how they'd close their own RfAs.

Seems like a perfectly sensible question to me.


I'm not understanding how it's sensible, or relevant. Do explain.

It's asking the candidate to evaluate consensus on a topic where (s)he will clearly feel an emotional attachment. isn't evaluating consensus fairly supposed to be one of the things that administrators ought to be able to do?
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QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 1st September 2009, 5:23pm) *

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QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 1st September 2009, 2:48am) *

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Now he's being asked how he'd close his own RfA. bored.gif That has to be one of the silliest questions I've seen yet on an RfA, especially since it's relevant to RfB, and RfB candidates don't even get asked how they'd close their own RfAs.

Seems like a perfectly sensible question to me.


I'm not understanding how it's sensible, or relevant. Do explain.

It's asking the candidate to evaluate consensus on a topic where (s)he will clearly feel an emotional attachment. isn't evaluating consensus fairly supposed to be one of the things that administrators ought to be able to do?


Yes, but if he was emotionally attached to a topic, he wouldn't take an administrative action on it. Likewise, if he nominated someone for adminship, he wouldn't promote the guy at the end. A better question might have been asking him how he'd close a certain AFD or MFD or whatever, because admins cannot close RFAs. Everyone knows RFAs aren't consensus based anyway.

The best answer for him would be that he would abstain. It's a nonsense analogy suggesting he had to close his own RFA.
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QUOTE(Nerd @ Tue 1st September 2009, 5:33pm) *

Yes, but if he was emotionally attached to a topic, he wouldn't take an administrative action on it.
Shhh! Don't give away the trick answer!
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Closed as successful by Taxman. Final percentage was roughly 75-76% support.
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QUOTE(Ahypori @ Fri 4th September 2009, 3:19am) *

Closed as successful by Taxman. Final percentage was roughly 75-76% support.

Usual bolloxy crap: "This RfA is actually closer than an numerical reading of it may appear since for the most part the opposes are well reasoned and few state themselves as weak oppose." So perhaps if they'd stated themselves as "strongest possible oppose from the master of all the known universes", then the result might have been different.

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Sadly, not one of the better bloodsport combats -- I wish some of the noise from Ten Pound Hammer's wildly ill-advised fiasco was funneled in here, if only to wake us up. And you know there is too much love in the air when East718 has something nice to say about the would-be admin! sick.gif
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 3rd September 2009, 8:00pm) *
I wish some of the noise from Ten Pound Hammer's wildly ill-advised fiasco was funneled in here, if only to wake us up. And you know there is too much love in the air when East718 has something nice to say about the would-be admin! sick.gif

Now there's a couple of twats.

Especially TPH. Seventh RFA just closed, and no joy.
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He never gets the clue---after 3 years, he's still driving Twinkle around, stepping on toes and making people angry. Huge dickhead on IRC.

He doesn't pop up on AN or RFAs very often, but when he does, you can expect badly-played dramah and mindless hostility.

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