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| Peter Damian |
Sat 12th September 2009, 12:04pm
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Wales gives you complete charge, and you have three fundamental reforms that you are allowed to implement.
What would those be? And what are the problems or abuses that each are supposed to address? This post has been edited by Peter Damian: Sat 12th September 2009, 12:04pm |
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Sat 12th September 2009, 5:00pm
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Wales gives you complete charge, and you have three fundamental reforms that you are allowed to implement. What would those be? And what are the problems or abuses that each are supposed to address There is only so much that can be done with the wiki model. The vast majority of the millions of articles will always be crap. Without recognizing and using expertise, very few article will ever reach a high level. That being said, there are a few things that could help; 1) I would hire and a systems analyst (for lack of a better term). This person would be empowered to experiment, turn on and tune things like flagged revisions. They would be responsible for analyzing and measuring the results. It's easy to say 'I know all the answers'. It's hard to put one's imagination to the test, with genuine metrics, and honestly see how it matches up with reality. 2) BLP is one of the biggest problems. I'd try some things and see how they work; op-out, revision control, create and empower a sympathetic committee of editors to give personal attention to BLP victims. 3) Veropedia seemed to be a pretty good idea; take good articles and run them through some cleanup filters and publish them - revise as needed. Copy this idea with a Foundation sanctioned side project. Featured articles seems to be a logical place to start. Elect good editors for limited terms to run the project, or maybe FA writers. Pay them with the advertising revenues from the site. If the money is good enough consider hiring expert editors from academia to write an occasional article - they might be willing if their work doesn't get instantly shit on. Consider redirecting the wikipedia articles to the 'releasedpedia' articles, when they exists, with a back link for wiki editing. Nothing like a little competition to shake things up. This post has been edited by TungstenCarbide: Sat 12th September 2009, 7:37pm |
Peter Damian Fundamental reform of Wikipedia Sat 12th September 2009, 12:04pm
Nerd
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have thr... Sat 12th September 2009, 1:08pm
Hell Freezes Over
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have thr... Sat 12th September 2009, 1:23pm
Kelly Martin All positions of authority (including GodKing) eit... Sat 12th September 2009, 2:34pm
victim of censorship
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have thr... Sat 12th September 2009, 3:45pm
Angela Kennedy I would say "Thanks but no thanks Jim. You go... Sat 12th September 2009, 3:58pm
Malleus
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have th... Sat 12th September 2009, 6:41pm
victim of censorship
[quote name='victim of censorship' post='193793' ... Sat 12th September 2009, 7:25pm
everyking
Wikipedia = fake, false, unreliable, unaccountab... Sat 12th September 2009, 9:53pm
victim of censorship
Wikipedia = fake, false, unreliable, unaccounta... Sat 12th September 2009, 11:26pm
Limey 1. To tackle content issues: Create an Editorial B... Sat 12th September 2009, 4:17pm
KD Tries Again
1. To tackle content issues: Create an Editorial ... Sat 12th September 2009, 5:33pm
Lar More than three things are needed but since we nee... Sat 12th September 2009, 4:47pm
TungstenCarbide
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have thr... Sat 12th September 2009, 5:00pm
Emperor 1) Unban everybody and unprotect all articles.
2)... Sat 12th September 2009, 6:49pm
The Wales Hunter I find it hard to disagree with the points raised ... Sat 12th September 2009, 6:53pm
Alison
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have thr... Sat 12th September 2009, 7:38pm
The Wales Hunter
[*] BLP opt-out. No questions. Also, bring in th... Sat 12th September 2009, 7:44pm
Malleus
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have th... Sat 12th September 2009, 7:47pm
No Paste 1. Flagged revisions
2. Some form of review for ... Sat 12th September 2009, 7:59pm
LessHorrid vanU I agree with the general BLP opt out proviso, and ... Sat 12th September 2009, 8:21pm
GlassBeadGame
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have thr... Sat 12th September 2009, 8:27pm
The Wales Hunter
Why would anyone listen to what this vile monster... Sat 12th September 2009, 9:01pm
GlassBeadGame
Why would anyone listen to what this vile monste... Sat 12th September 2009, 9:04pm
LessHorrid vanU
[quote name='The Wales Hunter' post='193835' date... Sat 12th September 2009, 9:31pm
Emperor
She's only joining the discussion to manipula... Sun 13th September 2009, 1:45am
GlassBeadGame
She's only joining the discussion to manipul... Sun 13th September 2009, 1:46am
Law I would rid all Bio's dead and alive from WP. ... Sun 13th September 2009, 4:33am
Peter Damian
Come to think of it, I think of WP like I do the ... Sun 13th September 2009, 7:51am

anthony
Come to think of it, I think of WP like I do the... Sun 13th September 2009, 2:42pm

Law
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='193902' date='Su... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:57pm

A Horse With No Name
@PD - I know where you are going with this ;) I... Mon 14th September 2009, 4:04pm

anthony This needs to be split out to another thread, but.... Mon 14th September 2009, 4:32pm
Nerd
I would rid all Bio's dead and alive from WP.... Sun 13th September 2009, 2:15pm
CharlotteWebb
Splitting the admin function from the editorial f... Sun 13th September 2009, 4:36pm
Limey
[quote name='The Wales Hunter' post='193835' date... Sat 12th September 2009, 9:28pm
GlassBeadGame
[quote name='The Wales Hunter' post='193835' dat... Sat 12th September 2009, 10:13pm
gomi Most of these have been alluded to already, but he... Sat 12th September 2009, 10:00pm
anthony
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have thr... Sun 13th September 2009, 1:23am
Limey
I would rid all Bio's dead and alive from WP... Sun 13th September 2009, 2:38pm
KD Tries Again Splitting the admin function from the editorial fu... Sun 13th September 2009, 4:30pm
A Horse With No Name
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have thr... Sun 13th September 2009, 8:41pm
CharlotteWebb
2. Eliminate RfA and RfB and put in a standardize... Sun 13th September 2009, 8:55pm

A Horse With No Name
2. Eliminate RfA and RfB and put in a standardiz... Sun 13th September 2009, 8:57pm

CharlotteWebb
[quote name='CharlotteWebb' post='193958' date='S... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:04pm

A Horse With No Name
Is the candidate's likelihood of following po... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:27pm
Kelly Martin 2. Eliminate RfA and RfB and put in a standardized... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:09pm

RMHED
I guarantee you that people would just take the t... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:17pm
GlassBeadGame
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have th... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:13pm
Kelly Martin I'd personally do away with RfA entirely; admi... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:50pm
KD Tries Again
[*]Multiple parallel articles on the same topic. ... Mon 14th September 2009, 3:50pm
KD Tries Again Or just ban their content? What's the merit i... Mon 14th September 2009, 9:14pm
Kelly Martin Or just ban their content? What's the merit i... Tue 15th September 2009, 12:36am
Moulton Nutcases actually have more standing than experts,... Mon 14th September 2009, 9:17pm
EricBarbour sorry, however........ :offtopic:
Lots of people... Tue 15th September 2009, 7:41am
victim of censorship
sorry, however........ :offtopic:
Lots of peopl... Tue 15th September 2009, 9:49am
LaraLove
First reform: Purge the servers, sell the IT equi... Tue 15th September 2009, 12:36pm
Cedric
[quote name='victim of censorship' post='194264' ... Tue 15th September 2009, 5:33pm
victim of censorship
[quote name='victim of censorship' post='194264'... Fri 18th September 2009, 4:03am
Tarc
[quote name='Cedric' post='194322' date='Tue 15th... Sun 20th September 2009, 4:48am
Dr. Blofeld Block anon ip addresses. Make editors have to pass... Thu 17th September 2009, 4:37pm
Dr. Blofeld Definately the first thing would be to remove ... Thu 17th September 2009, 4:48pm
thekohser
If somebody paid me $50 right now to go and ... Thu 17th September 2009, 5:22pm
RMHED
Definately the first thing would be to remove ... Thu 17th September 2009, 7:27pm
Milton Roe
Definately the first thing would be to remove ... Thu 17th September 2009, 7:53pm

thekohser
Do the same for Carolyn Doran and I'll eat m... Fri 18th September 2009, 2:44am
Lar
[quote name='Dr. Blofeld' post='194661' date='Thu... Thu 17th September 2009, 9:52pm
gomi here. Enjoy.] Thu 17th September 2009, 5:03pm
Friday 1) Enforce one account per editor. Possibly using... Thu 17th September 2009, 5:45pm
Dr. Blofeld Thekohser. I'll see what I can do. Offhand doe... Thu 17th September 2009, 6:17pm
Dr. Blofeld Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?titl... Thu 17th September 2009, 6:52pm
thekohser
This is why I think [b][size=3]if Jimbo is seriou... Thu 17th September 2009, 8:51pm
Dr. Blofeld I've finished Sentimental Lady now check out h... Thu 17th September 2009, 7:53pm
RMHED
I've finished Sentimental Lady now check out ... Thu 17th September 2009, 8:26pm
Dr. Blofeld http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnotized_%2...ood_M... Thu 17th September 2009, 8:47pm
The Adversary To return to the subject for a moment, a few small... Sun 20th September 2009, 1:38pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy File under 'Fundamental reform' or viable ... Fri 25th September 2009, 3:38pm
GlassBeadGame
File under 'Fundamental reform' or viable... Fri 25th September 2009, 4:03pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy But in Wikipedia's case you need the Tom Sawye... Sat 26th September 2009, 2:14am![]() ![]() |
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