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| Peter Damian |
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Wales gives you complete charge, and you have three fundamental reforms that you are allowed to implement.
What would those be? And what are the problems or abuses that each are supposed to address? This post has been edited by Peter Damian: Sat 12th September 2009, 12:04pm |
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| The Wales Hunter |
Sat 12th September 2009, 9:01pm
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| GlassBeadGame |
Sat 12th September 2009, 9:04pm
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Why would anyone listen to what this vile monster has to say about "reform?" Because if the Devil told you your zipper was undone, you'd still check? She's only joining the discussion to manipulate. By the way all (except my own) sets of "fundamental reforms" are basically on the level of improving a junior high school pep club. So much for "fundamental." |
| Emperor |
Sun 13th September 2009, 1:45am
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She's only joining the discussion to manipulate. By the way all (except my own) sets of "fundamental reforms" are basically on the level of improving a junior high school pep club. So much for "fundamental." Your set certainly has more buzzwords. Way to go. |
| GlassBeadGame |
Sun 13th September 2009, 1:46am
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She's only joining the discussion to manipulate. By the way all (except my own) sets of "fundamental reforms" are basically on the level of improving a junior high school pep club. So much for "fundamental." Your set certainly has more buzzwords. Way to go. ..that from a guy who runs a junior high pep club. |
| Law |
Sun 13th September 2009, 4:33am
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I would rid all Bio's dead and alive from WP. The site is simply not responsible to handle them.
I would make all admins accountable for De-Rfa processes. I would kill the mailing lists. I would disable the email function. I would get rid of CIV and NPA and let adults work shit out like adults. Come to think of it, I think of WP like I do the Internal Revenue Code. I would take the site down, and completely rebuild every facet of it. In short, the more I think of it, the more I consider WP to be a car that is totaled by an insurance company. Sure it could theoretically be rebuilt, but sometimes the cost is too great. Just let it rot and get another one. |
| Peter Damian |
Sun 13th September 2009, 7:51am
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Come to think of it, I think of WP like I do the Internal Revenue Code. I would take the site down, and completely rebuild every facet of it. In short, the more I think of it, the more I consider WP to be a car that is totaled by an insurance company. Sure it could theoretically be rebuilt, but sometimes the cost is too great. Just let it rot and get another one. This would be the 'totally destroy Wikipedia' option, then, Law? |
| anthony |
Sun 13th September 2009, 2:42pm
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Come to think of it, I think of WP like I do the Internal Revenue Code. I would take the site down, and completely rebuild every facet of it. In short, the more I think of it, the more I consider WP to be a car that is totaled by an insurance company. Sure it could theoretically be rebuilt, but sometimes the cost is too great. Just let it rot and get another one. This would be the 'totally destroy Wikipedia' option, then, Law? Especially with the comparison to the Internal Revenue Code, I'm not sure what the "completely rebuild" and "get another one" parts are about. |
| Law |
Sun 13th September 2009, 9:57pm
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Come to think of it, I think of WP like I do the Internal Revenue Code. I would take the site down, and completely rebuild every facet of it. In short, the more I think of it, the more I consider WP to be a car that is totaled by an insurance company. Sure it could theoretically be rebuilt, but sometimes the cost is too great. Just let it rot and get another one. This would be the 'totally destroy Wikipedia' option, then, Law? Especially with the comparison to the Internal Revenue Code, I'm not sure what the "completely rebuild" and "get another one" parts are about. Haha. Well, I would say that the IRC would have to be rebuilt in a comprehensible way. I'm not sure a country does well when no taxes are collected. @PD - I know where you are going with this I'd only destroy it with permission, as I assume is part of this hypothetical. I get your point and it is well-taken. |
| anthony |
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This needs to be split out to another thread, but...
Well, I would say that the IRC would have to be rebuilt in a comprehensible way. Simply defining "taxable income" in a way that doesn't contain any unintended consequences and doesn't contain any loopholes is, well, impossible. Granted, you could simplify some little things, but for the most part the IRC isn't even the complicated part - it's the treasury regulations, the revenue rulings, and the court cases which interpret the IRC where things get most complicated. The IRC could simply say "There is hereby imposed on the income of every individual a tax of 25%" and you'd still have the vast majority of the complications deriving from the interpretation of that rule. As an aside, the so called "Fair Tax" suffers from the same problems as the income tax, because it doesn't tax items purchased for use in business. |
Peter Damian Fundamental reform of Wikipedia Sat 12th September 2009, 12:04pm
Nerd
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Hell Freezes Over
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victim of censorship
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Malleus
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victim of censorship
[quote name='victim of censorship' post='193793' ... Sat 12th September 2009, 7:25pm
everyking
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victim of censorship
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KD Tries Again
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Lar More than three things are needed but since we nee... Sat 12th September 2009, 4:47pm
TungstenCarbide
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have thr... Sat 12th September 2009, 5:00pm
Emperor 1) Unban everybody and unprotect all articles.
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Alison
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The Wales Hunter
[*] BLP opt-out. No questions. Also, bring in th... Sat 12th September 2009, 7:44pm
Malleus
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have th... Sat 12th September 2009, 7:47pm
No Paste 1. Flagged revisions
2. Some form of review for ... Sat 12th September 2009, 7:59pm
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GlassBeadGame
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The Wales Hunter
Why would anyone listen to what this vile monster... Sat 12th September 2009, 9:01pm
LessHorrid vanU
[quote name='The Wales Hunter' post='193835' date... Sat 12th September 2009, 9:31pm

A Horse With No Name
@PD - I know where you are going with this ;) I... Mon 14th September 2009, 4:04pm
Nerd
I would rid all Bio's dead and alive from WP.... Sun 13th September 2009, 2:15pm
CharlotteWebb
Splitting the admin function from the editorial f... Sun 13th September 2009, 4:36pm
Limey
[quote name='The Wales Hunter' post='193835' date... Sat 12th September 2009, 9:28pm
GlassBeadGame
[quote name='The Wales Hunter' post='193835' dat... Sat 12th September 2009, 10:13pm
gomi Most of these have been alluded to already, but he... Sat 12th September 2009, 10:00pm
anthony
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Limey
I would rid all Bio's dead and alive from WP... Sun 13th September 2009, 2:38pm
KD Tries Again Splitting the admin function from the editorial fu... Sun 13th September 2009, 4:30pm
A Horse With No Name
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CharlotteWebb
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A Horse With No Name
2. Eliminate RfA and RfB and put in a standardiz... Sun 13th September 2009, 8:57pm

CharlotteWebb
[quote name='CharlotteWebb' post='193958' date='S... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:04pm

A Horse With No Name
Is the candidate's likelihood of following po... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:27pm
Kelly Martin 2. Eliminate RfA and RfB and put in a standardized... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:09pm

RMHED
I guarantee you that people would just take the t... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:17pm
GlassBeadGame
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Kelly Martin I'd personally do away with RfA entirely; admi... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:50pm
KD Tries Again
[*]Multiple parallel articles on the same topic. ... Mon 14th September 2009, 3:50pm
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Moulton Nutcases actually have more standing than experts,... Mon 14th September 2009, 9:17pm
EricBarbour sorry, however........ :offtopic:
Lots of people... Tue 15th September 2009, 7:41am
victim of censorship
sorry, however........ :offtopic:
Lots of peopl... Tue 15th September 2009, 9:49am
LaraLove
First reform: Purge the servers, sell the IT equi... Tue 15th September 2009, 12:36pm
Cedric
[quote name='victim of censorship' post='194264' ... Tue 15th September 2009, 5:33pm
victim of censorship
[quote name='victim of censorship' post='194264'... Fri 18th September 2009, 4:03am
Tarc
[quote name='Cedric' post='194322' date='Tue 15th... Sun 20th September 2009, 4:48am
Dr. Blofeld Block anon ip addresses. Make editors have to pass... Thu 17th September 2009, 4:37pm
Dr. Blofeld Definately the first thing would be to remove ... Thu 17th September 2009, 4:48pm
thekohser
If somebody paid me $50 right now to go and ... Thu 17th September 2009, 5:22pm
RMHED
Definately the first thing would be to remove ... Thu 17th September 2009, 7:27pm
Milton Roe
Definately the first thing would be to remove ... Thu 17th September 2009, 7:53pm

thekohser
Do the same for Carolyn Doran and I'll eat m... Fri 18th September 2009, 2:44am
Lar
[quote name='Dr. Blofeld' post='194661' date='Thu... Thu 17th September 2009, 9:52pm
gomi here. Enjoy.] Thu 17th September 2009, 5:03pm
Friday 1) Enforce one account per editor. Possibly using... Thu 17th September 2009, 5:45pm
Dr. Blofeld Thekohser. I'll see what I can do. Offhand doe... Thu 17th September 2009, 6:17pm
Dr. Blofeld Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?titl... Thu 17th September 2009, 6:52pm
thekohser
This is why I think [b][size=3]if Jimbo is seriou... Thu 17th September 2009, 8:51pm
Dr. Blofeld I've finished Sentimental Lady now check out h... Thu 17th September 2009, 7:53pm
RMHED
I've finished Sentimental Lady now check out ... Thu 17th September 2009, 8:26pm
Dr. Blofeld http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnotized_%2...ood_M... Thu 17th September 2009, 8:47pm
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Cock-up-over-conspiracy File under 'Fundamental reform' or viable ... Fri 25th September 2009, 3:38pm
GlassBeadGame
File under 'Fundamental reform' or viable... Fri 25th September 2009, 4:03pm
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