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| Peter Damian |
Sat 12th September 2009, 12:04pm
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Wales gives you complete charge, and you have three fundamental reforms that you are allowed to implement.
What would those be? And what are the problems or abuses that each are supposed to address? This post has been edited by Peter Damian: Sat 12th September 2009, 12:04pm |
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Thu 17th September 2009, 7:53pm
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I've finished Sentimental Lady now check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentimental_Lady, It is due to appear in a DYK now. This is what I mean about propelling people to do things. If they are serious about building a high quality encyclopedia they need to offer editors incentives to improve quality. Most people edit articles they are interested in or because of personal pleasure writing it. This is why the coverage on wikipedia is so uneven and inherently biased. If they gave editors more encouragement to develop specific articles and have their efforts given a small reward it would make things happen. While wikipedia obviously does not have the money to reward many people on this sort of level if they raised enough money elsewhere they would put money back into the project in the areas they see as most important for expansion. The thing is one mention of money on wikipedia and the community go all objective. I do believe we are all volunteers but similarly I think the key to quality lies on giving more editors a reason to write that article in the first place. That in my view is one of the biggest flaws is that editors are not compensated for being willing to spend weeks on an article to develop it to FA. Therefore given the restricted time most editors have they are oftne not willing to spend that much time on a given article. If Jimbo and co are serious about improving quality they need to be more assertive i think rather than expecting people to do it all.
PS are you serious about that £500 offer? If you are I'll think about it!! |
| RMHED |
Thu 17th September 2009, 8:26pm
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I've finished Sentimental Lady now check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentimental_Lady, It is due to appear in a DYK now. This is what I mean about propelling people to do things. If they are serious about building a high quality encyclopedia they need to offer editors incentives to improve quality. Most people edit articles they are interested in or because of personal pleasure writing it. This is why the coverage on wikipedia is so uneven and inherently biased. If they gave editors more encouragement to develop specific articles and have their efforts given a small reward it would make things happen. While wikipedia obviously does not have the money to reward many people on this sort of level if they raised enough money elsewhere they would put money back into the project in the areas they see as most important for expansion. The thing is one mention of money on wikipedia and the community go all objective. I do believe we are all volunteers but similarly I think the key to quality lies on giving more editors a reason to write that article in the first place. That in my view is one of the biggest flaws is that editors are not compensated for being willing to spend weeks on an article to develop it to FA. Therefore given the restricted time most editors have they are oftne not willing to spend that much time on a given article. If Jimbo and co are serious about improving quality they need to be more assertive i think rather than expecting people to do it all. PS are you serious about that £500 offer? If you are I'll think about it!!Oh yes, as long as it is the featured article on the main page and the blurb mentions Rachel and Jimbo's relationship. |
Peter Damian Fundamental reform of Wikipedia Sat 12th September 2009, 12:04pm
Nerd
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Hell Freezes Over
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Kelly Martin All positions of authority (including GodKing) eit... Sat 12th September 2009, 2:34pm
victim of censorship
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Angela Kennedy I would say "Thanks but no thanks Jim. You go... Sat 12th September 2009, 3:58pm
Malleus
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have th... Sat 12th September 2009, 6:41pm
victim of censorship
[quote name='victim of censorship' post='193793' ... Sat 12th September 2009, 7:25pm
everyking
Wikipedia = fake, false, unreliable, unaccountab... Sat 12th September 2009, 9:53pm
victim of censorship
Wikipedia = fake, false, unreliable, unaccounta... Sat 12th September 2009, 11:26pm
Limey 1. To tackle content issues: Create an Editorial B... Sat 12th September 2009, 4:17pm
KD Tries Again
1. To tackle content issues: Create an Editorial ... Sat 12th September 2009, 5:33pm
Lar More than three things are needed but since we nee... Sat 12th September 2009, 4:47pm
TungstenCarbide
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have thr... Sat 12th September 2009, 5:00pm
Emperor 1) Unban everybody and unprotect all articles.
2)... Sat 12th September 2009, 6:49pm
The Wales Hunter I find it hard to disagree with the points raised ... Sat 12th September 2009, 6:53pm
Alison
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have thr... Sat 12th September 2009, 7:38pm
The Wales Hunter
[*] BLP opt-out. No questions. Also, bring in th... Sat 12th September 2009, 7:44pm
Malleus
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have th... Sat 12th September 2009, 7:47pm
No Paste 1. Flagged revisions
2. Some form of review for ... Sat 12th September 2009, 7:59pm
LessHorrid vanU I agree with the general BLP opt out proviso, and ... Sat 12th September 2009, 8:21pm
GlassBeadGame
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have thr... Sat 12th September 2009, 8:27pm
The Wales Hunter
Why would anyone listen to what this vile monster... Sat 12th September 2009, 9:01pm
GlassBeadGame
Why would anyone listen to what this vile monste... Sat 12th September 2009, 9:04pm
LessHorrid vanU
[quote name='The Wales Hunter' post='193835' date... Sat 12th September 2009, 9:31pm
Emperor
She's only joining the discussion to manipula... Sun 13th September 2009, 1:45am
GlassBeadGame
She's only joining the discussion to manipul... Sun 13th September 2009, 1:46am
Law I would rid all Bio's dead and alive from WP. ... Sun 13th September 2009, 4:33am
Peter Damian
Come to think of it, I think of WP like I do the ... Sun 13th September 2009, 7:51am

anthony
Come to think of it, I think of WP like I do the... Sun 13th September 2009, 2:42pm

Law
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='193902' date='Su... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:57pm

A Horse With No Name
@PD - I know where you are going with this ;) I... Mon 14th September 2009, 4:04pm

anthony This needs to be split out to another thread, but.... Mon 14th September 2009, 4:32pm
Nerd
I would rid all Bio's dead and alive from WP.... Sun 13th September 2009, 2:15pm
CharlotteWebb
Splitting the admin function from the editorial f... Sun 13th September 2009, 4:36pm
Limey
[quote name='The Wales Hunter' post='193835' date... Sat 12th September 2009, 9:28pm
GlassBeadGame
[quote name='The Wales Hunter' post='193835' dat... Sat 12th September 2009, 10:13pm
gomi Most of these have been alluded to already, but he... Sat 12th September 2009, 10:00pm
anthony
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have thr... Sun 13th September 2009, 1:23am
Limey
I would rid all Bio's dead and alive from WP... Sun 13th September 2009, 2:38pm
KD Tries Again Splitting the admin function from the editorial fu... Sun 13th September 2009, 4:30pm
A Horse With No Name
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have thr... Sun 13th September 2009, 8:41pm
CharlotteWebb
2. Eliminate RfA and RfB and put in a standardize... Sun 13th September 2009, 8:55pm

A Horse With No Name
2. Eliminate RfA and RfB and put in a standardiz... Sun 13th September 2009, 8:57pm

CharlotteWebb
[quote name='CharlotteWebb' post='193958' date='S... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:04pm

A Horse With No Name
Is the candidate's likelihood of following po... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:27pm
Kelly Martin 2. Eliminate RfA and RfB and put in a standardized... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:09pm

RMHED
I guarantee you that people would just take the t... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:17pm
GlassBeadGame
Wales gives you complete charge, and you have th... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:13pm
Kelly Martin I'd personally do away with RfA entirely; admi... Sun 13th September 2009, 9:50pm
KD Tries Again
[*]Multiple parallel articles on the same topic. ... Mon 14th September 2009, 3:50pm
KD Tries Again Or just ban their content? What's the merit i... Mon 14th September 2009, 9:14pm
Kelly Martin Or just ban their content? What's the merit i... Tue 15th September 2009, 12:36am
Moulton Nutcases actually have more standing than experts,... Mon 14th September 2009, 9:17pm
EricBarbour sorry, however........ :offtopic:
Lots of people... Tue 15th September 2009, 7:41am
victim of censorship
sorry, however........ :offtopic:
Lots of peopl... Tue 15th September 2009, 9:49am
LaraLove
First reform: Purge the servers, sell the IT equi... Tue 15th September 2009, 12:36pm
Cedric
[quote name='victim of censorship' post='194264' ... Tue 15th September 2009, 5:33pm
victim of censorship
[quote name='victim of censorship' post='194264'... Fri 18th September 2009, 4:03am
Tarc
[quote name='Cedric' post='194322' date='Tue 15th... Sun 20th September 2009, 4:48am
Dr. Blofeld Block anon ip addresses. Make editors have to pass... Thu 17th September 2009, 4:37pm
Dr. Blofeld Definately the first thing would be to remove ... Thu 17th September 2009, 4:48pm
thekohser
If somebody paid me $50 right now to go and ... Thu 17th September 2009, 5:22pm
RMHED
Definately the first thing would be to remove ... Thu 17th September 2009, 7:27pm
Milton Roe
Definately the first thing would be to remove ... Thu 17th September 2009, 7:53pm

thekohser
Do the same for Carolyn Doran and I'll eat m... Fri 18th September 2009, 2:44am
Lar
[quote name='Dr. Blofeld' post='194661' date='Thu... Thu 17th September 2009, 9:52pm
gomi here. Enjoy.] Thu 17th September 2009, 5:03pm
Friday 1) Enforce one account per editor. Possibly using... Thu 17th September 2009, 5:45pm
Dr. Blofeld Thekohser. I'll see what I can do. Offhand doe... Thu 17th September 2009, 6:17pm
Dr. Blofeld Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?titl... Thu 17th September 2009, 6:52pm
thekohser
This is why I think [b][size=3]if Jimbo is seriou... Thu 17th September 2009, 8:51pm
Dr. Blofeld http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnotized_%2...ood_M... Thu 17th September 2009, 8:47pm
The Adversary To return to the subject for a moment, a few small... Sun 20th September 2009, 1:38pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy File under 'Fundamental reform' or viable ... Fri 25th September 2009, 3:38pm
GlassBeadGame
File under 'Fundamental reform' or viable... Fri 25th September 2009, 4:03pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy But in Wikipedia's case you need the Tom Sawye... Sat 26th September 2009, 2:14am![]() ![]() |
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