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post Mon 14th September 2009, 3:12pm
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Removes convenience copy of paper

JzG made this copyright argument over and over before, and edit warred over inclusion of sources from lenr-canr.org. The whole issue was debated ad nauseum at the WP whitelist page, and the link he removed was whitelisted specifically for usage, on consideration of the copyright arguments. There is no legal risk whatever to Wikipedia for this link, because lenr-canr.org does claim permission, and is not obligated to provide us with specific evidence for every one of their thousands of pages.

Lenr-canr.org is highly visible in the field, and if the publisher doesn't want the page offered, it can request it be taken down, and it's highly likely that they would do so. Wikipedia should not link to known copyright violations, but JzG's claim does not establish that, and he's just repeating the old arguments he made before, that were rejected; he thinks he can get away with it now that I'm blocked. Maybe he will, but I rather doubt it.

JzG also nominated for deletion my "Cabal" evidence page for RfAr/Abd-William M. Connolley. Watch him, folks, he'll do what he thinks he can get away with, and more.
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post Thu 24th September 2009, 2:42am
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When will you Wikipidiots get through your thick, numb skulls that encyclopedias should be full of settled science, and settled history, and biographies of long-dead people, and basically the safe and sane middle of the knowledge space? If you want to go on about Cold Fusion or Animal Rights or Chronic Epstein-Barr Virus Syndrome or crap like that, go start your own website, or read science journals or something else. This is why Wikipedia is a pile of crap -- it's a billboard for every loony tune with an axe to grind, whether it is labeling historical figures anti-semitic or crusading against (or for) abortion or Irish nationalism. Get a grip! Arghh!
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When will you Wikipidiots get through your thick, numb skulls that encyclopedias should be full of settled science, and settled history, and biographies of long-dead people, and basically the safe and sane middle of the knowledge space?

But I heard that the Cold Fusion topic is going to help the starving young girl in Africa ... for whom the Wikipedia is really for according to Jimbo ... save the world with its entire sum of all the knowledge in the world about it !!! (Except how to actually do it reproducibly, of course).

I know nothing about the science of cold fusion but the sociology of the science of cold fusion certainly was interesting and valid enough in its own right. Citable papers et al.

The hullabaloo is nothing new. They same old fart bags have been going at it in basically the same social dynamics since ... oh, at least Bessler's Wheel. And probably event before. Cro-magnons arguing that 'evry ful knos' a tree could not roll up a hill even after they invented the wheel.

But then that would just be more pseudoreviewia too ...

Can the admins split and merge the cold fusion stuff? We seem to have lost JzG somewhere in the calorimeter.
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Abd   JzG, same old same old   Mon 14th September 2009, 3:12pm
Cla68   Removes convenience copy of paper JzG made this...   Tue 15th September 2009, 12:13am
Abd   You should expect some editors to try to undo some...   Tue 15th September 2009, 1:39am
Cla68   It means to me that JzG hasn't changed his spo...   Tue 15th September 2009, 1:44am
Abd   [quote name='Abd' post='194211' date='Tue 15th Sep...   Tue 15th September 2009, 2:03am
Milton Roe   Blatant sock. Yellowbeard was, as well, from the ...   Tue 15th September 2009, 2:08am
Abd   If he is [Nrcprm2026], there might be old checku...   Tue 15th September 2009, 3:31am
Son of a Yeti   JzG also still refuses to admit that he was wrong...   Thu 17th September 2009, 11:41am
Moulton   Has he ever admitted anything? If not, has he ever...   Thu 17th September 2009, 11:51am
Abd   [quote name='Son of a Yeti' post='194634' date='Th...   Thu 17th September 2009, 3:10pm
Chindog   However, there is an example very recently where h...   Fri 18th September 2009, 3:09am
Somey   Why would anybody email a person who doesn't w...   Fri 18th September 2009, 3:46am
Kato   Rick, what is your fascination with harassing JzG...   Fri 18th September 2009, 4:27am
Abd   However, there is an example very recently where ...   Fri 18th September 2009, 5:20am
Kato   I find the evil of some of their supporters worse,...   Fri 18th September 2009, 5:55am
Angela Kennedy   I find the evil of some of their supporters worse...   Fri 18th September 2009, 6:55am
Abd   [quote name='Abd' post='194763' date='Fri 18th Se...   Fri 18th September 2009, 1:15pm
Moulton   I was supporting the principle of administrative r...   Fri 18th September 2009, 1:27pm
Abd   Recusal is a practice found in ethical cultures. ...   Fri 18th September 2009, 2:30pm
Moulton   Recusal is a practice found in ethical cultures. ...   Fri 18th September 2009, 3:23pm
Abd   [quote name='Abd' post='194804' date='Fri 18th Sep...   Fri 18th September 2009, 7:45pm
Moulton   Jimbo put himself in charge of rejecting any effor...   Fri 18th September 2009, 7:51pm
Abd   [quote name='Abd' post='194651' date='Thu 17th Se...   Tue 12th January 2010, 5:46pm
Mathsci   You should expect some editors to try to undo som...   Fri 18th September 2009, 7:06am
Cla68   BTW Abd's allegations of a cabal, rejected by...   Fri 18th September 2009, 7:49am
Moulton   And it's one, two, three, what are we fight fo...   Fri 18th September 2009, 12:06pm
Mathsci   BTW Abd's allegations of a cabal, rejected b...   Sat 19th September 2009, 12:27am
Cla68   [quote name='Cla68' post='194775' date='Fri 18th ...   Sat 19th September 2009, 5:43am
Grep   Which users are you suggesting edit Wikipedia wit...   Sat 19th September 2009, 6:37am
Mathsci   Which users are you suggesting edit Wikipedia wi...   Sat 19th September 2009, 7:40am
Grep   [quote name='Grep' post='194931' date='Sat 19th S...   Sat 19th September 2009, 9:41am
Mathsci   These were pseudoscience articles by a related gro...   Sun 20th September 2009, 5:02am
EricBarbour   Just as when Abd was page banned, things will proc...   Fri 18th September 2009, 8:25am
Abd   [quote name='Mathsci' post='194773' date='Fri 18th...   Fri 18th September 2009, 2:10pm
Abd   [quote name='Cla68' post='194189' date='Tue 15th S...   Fri 18th September 2009, 1:58pm
Moulton   The wasted energy is enormous. Ayup.   Fri 18th September 2009, 2:16pm
Guido den Broeder   Don't be surprised if a group of editors will ...   Tue 15th September 2009, 1:12am
Moulton   It is customary in WikiCulture to stubbornly cling...   Tue 15th September 2009, 1:51am
SirFozzie   I think your "cabal" page ought to be de...   Tue 15th September 2009, 5:18am
EricBarbour   Abd, why do you keep acting "surprised' w...   Tue 15th September 2009, 8:04am
Abd   Abd, why do you keep acting "surprised' w...   Tue 15th September 2009, 1:01pm
dtobias   He does seem to have adopted the WR meme that it i...   Tue 15th September 2009, 12:32pm
Moulton   It is a pleasant surprise when someone acquires su...   Tue 15th September 2009, 1:37pm
Moulton   Sominex dealers should be afraid. Very afraid.   Thu 17th September 2009, 3:14pm
Abd   Sominex dealers should be afraid. Very afraid.I a...   Thu 17th September 2009, 3:27pm
Viridae   Why would anybody email a person who doesn't ...   Fri 18th September 2009, 2:27pm
Angela Kennedy   [quote name='Somey' post='194756' date='Fri 18th ...   Sun 20th September 2009, 7:48am
Somey   Could we PLEASE refrain from the 'autistic...   Mon 21st September 2009, 5:40am
Angela Kennedy   Could we PLEASE refrain from the 'autistic...   Mon 21st September 2009, 6:35am
dogbiscuit   Twat, poopy pants, prick or arsehole is absolutel...   Mon 21st September 2009, 8:59am
Angela Kennedy   [quote name='Angela Kennedy' post='195170' date='...   Mon 21st September 2009, 10:58am
dogbiscuit   Monday morning- and I'm fighting for the righ...   Mon 21st September 2009, 11:01am
Grep   So you have indeed been trying to eliminate ...   Sun 20th September 2009, 6:56am
Mathsci   So you have indeed been trying to eliminate ...   Sun 20th September 2009, 7:32am
Achromatic   I'm quite happy to see pseudoscience articles...   Mon 21st September 2009, 5:33am
Appleby   Why? Leave aside the barrow-pushers, but what is ...   Mon 21st September 2009, 8:33pm
Mathsci   I'm quite happy to see pseudoscience article...   Mon 21st September 2009, 9:17pm
Abd   [quote name='Achromatic' post='195164' date='Mon 2...   Tue 22nd September 2009, 2:39am
Mathsci   Mathsci, you have helped a total ignoramus on sci...   Tue 22nd September 2009, 3:48am
Somey   But it's just a stub. Please move on. No need ...   Tue 22nd September 2009, 4:20am
Mathsci   But it's just a stub. Please move on. No need...   Tue 22nd September 2009, 10:05pm
Milton Roe   [quote name='Somey' post='195342' date='Tue 22nd ...   Tue 22nd September 2009, 11:01pm
Somey   [quote name='Mathsci' post='195341' date='Mon 21st...   Thu 24th September 2009, 6:27am
Abd   [quote name='Abd' post='195753' date='Wed 23rd Sep...   Thu 24th September 2009, 5:48pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   They are not suitable for inclusion in an encyclop...   Tue 22nd September 2009, 5:17am
Angela Kennedy   [quote name='Achromatic' post='195164' date='Mon ...   Tue 22nd September 2009, 2:50pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   Aaagh! The old 'pseudoscience' name-ca...   Tue 22nd September 2009, 9:50pm
Grep   I'm quite happy to see pseudoscience articles...   Wed 23rd September 2009, 6:45pm
Appleby   I see that Einstein–Cartan–Evans theory is cu...   Wed 23rd September 2009, 9:30pm
Abd   [quote name='Grep' post='195642' date='Wed 23rd Se...   Thu 24th September 2009, 12:16am
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   "Pseudoscience" is essentially an insult...   Thu 24th September 2009, 2:08am
Appleby   Indeed, and what is a pseudoscience can change ove...   Tue 22nd September 2009, 8:18pm
Kelly Martin   Being wrong doesn't make a theory "pseudo...   Wed 23rd September 2009, 9:51pm
Abd   warning: long. Being wrong doesn't make a the...   Wed 23rd September 2009, 11:59pm
Chindog   I've left Wikipedia because of the failure of...   Thu 24th September 2009, 12:19pm
Abd   [quote name='Abd' post='195709' date='Wed 23rd Sep...   Thu 24th September 2009, 7:27pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   The problem isn't the bad guys, the problem is...   Fri 25th September 2009, 1:55am
gomi   When will you Wikipidiots get through your thick, ...   Thu 24th September 2009, 2:42am
Abd   When will you Wikipidiots get through your thick, ...   Thu 24th September 2009, 3:36am
Grep   When will you Wikipidiots get through your thick,...   Thu 24th September 2009, 6:12am
gomi   [quote name='gomi' post='195743' date='Thu 24th S...   Thu 24th September 2009, 5:55pm
Grep   In short, it's [i]the free encyclopedia that...   Thu 24th September 2009, 6:30pm
Abd   But I heard that the Cold Fusion topic is going to...   Thu 24th September 2009, 6:03pm
Moulton   If I were younger, more energetic, and considerabl...   Thu 24th September 2009, 12:49pm


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