Cold fusion, Why not? Options

[Abd]

I'll just start this with a whimper, not a bang. JzG, the big meanie, just removed Yet Another Link to lenr-canr.org from Cold fusion. Waaa! Teacher told him not to do that! I'm going to take my marbles home! Now that I'm banned, I get to whine all I want! It's kinda fun!

No discussion, he gave the same argument that was discussed to death at Martin Fleischmann (T-H-L-K-D), that was discussed to death at MediaWiki talk:Whitelist, and always, in the end, rejected.

Pure wikilawyering: there is zero legal risk to Wikipedia from linking to that paper, the web site claims permission for all that it hosts, and if there is a defect with a couple of pages, it's basically irrelevant. (Very different situation with newenergytimes.com, they host under a claim of fair use, which they can get away with as a nonprofit until the publisher squawks.) The specific paper he delinked was approved by Beetstra at the whitelist page, after all the objections had been raised about copyright.

Ban the cat, the place is overrun with mice. Kind of cute, aren't they?

Wikipedia, you traded Abd and WMC's bit for JzG and Hipocrite. Enjoy.

[Viridae]

Fuck.

[Abd]

Fuck.

Fuse, not fuck. Difference: with the former, you can pull out or away, with the latter, better be sure first. Similarity: loss of virginity isn't reversible. Unfuse isn't possible with helium unless you smash it with a sledge, so to speak.

Well if you don't have a kid to put in a floating mushroom I suppose there are other ways to get a zany mad scientist reality TV show.

I've got some very cute kids. I'll have to photograph them with the kit.

How long is it going to take before all this hits reliable source? Any bets?

Not soon. On the other hand, if you were pushing a theory that some technology essential for the preservation of human life were a threat to the environment in some exotic and unprovable way, you'd be up for a Nobel (and/or an Oscar.)

What's soon? And what's the bet? Nobel? Nah, Fleischmann should get that, probably Pons with him. Oscar? For what? I suppose what I'm doing is dramatization, it's publicity, design to cut through the noise, and it will. Unless, of course, the peer-reviewers were all deluded, and the effect doesn't exist in spite of the weight in reliable sources. I suppose that's possible.

And if you show that that the 'toxic' personalities of CFS patients can bend spoons, by taking five CFS patients, and finding a bent spoon in the cutlery drawer of one of them (you won't even need to use a control population), you'll DEFINITELY get published in a Reliable Source.

Sure. I'll take it. Spoons are cheap. I don't like the bit about toxic personalities, though. Seems a tad vicious.

Can you assure me you live nowhere near SW London?

Depends. How near is near? Given that CF is supposedly bogus, why would you be worried? This cell will have 25 ml of heavy water in it. Possibly a quarter of that will be electrolyzed to deuterium gas and oxygen. It's an open cell, but if somehow this were to collect in one place, and a spark were to set it off, it would be like a firecracker. That's it. CF cells of a different type, with far, far more surface area (it's apparently a surface effect) have melted down, and there have been one or two unexplained explosions, also of much larger devices, but it's more likely that your cell phone battery would explode.

If I'm lucky, I'll be generating enough energetic neutrons to produce one track per minute, most of them in a few square centimeters of a solid-state nuclear track detector stack. I don't know what the detector efficiency will be, it could be calculated, but it's probably a few percent. (Mostly, the neutrons will pass through without interacting.)

This is an experiment optimized for neutron generation and detection; except for more extensive instrumentation, the protocol closely follows work published over the last few years by the U.S. Naval Laboratory in San Diego, California (SPAWAR), most notably this year in Naturwissenschaften and the European Physical Journal of Applied Physics. Nuclear tracks in SSNTDs in "cold fusion" experiments were first reported in 1990 by a Chinese group. However, it was only last year that SPAWAR published any neutron reports; they had apparently known for some time, but did not publish because they needed to first obtain a military security release. Neutrons are ... interesting.

[Peter Damian]

Can you assure me you live nowhere near SW London?

Depends. How near is near? Given that CF is supposedly bogus, why would you be worried?

Worried about thermonuclear explosions emanating from your kitchen and destroying significant parts of the metropolis.

[CharlotteWebb]

Can you assure me you live nowhere near SW London?

Depends. How near is near? Given that CF is supposedly bogus, why would you be worried?

Worried about thermonuclear explosions emanating from your kitchen and destroying significant parts of the metropolis.

Would suggest Westminster but it's a few days late for that.