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| EricBarbour |
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Once again: I have Dalby's book. It appears to be poorly written and very fanboyish, despite the promotional blubs claiming it to be some kind of exposé or critique. It's a freak-show, basically. I just can't take seriously a book that makes statements like this: QUOTE Durova and SlimVirgin, high-profile Wikipedians, brave enough to court all kinds of controversy, are among those who have achieved this fame and have withstood the pressure of scurrilous attacks from the shadows beyond the encyclopedia. I have already mentioned some others whose names are bandied about on the wikifringes and who go on working: Raul654, Eloquence and Danny, Anthere and David.Monniaux are among them. " Knowing the histories of those "brave" people, this statement is either totally insane, or was intended to be satirical--and failed.
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| Cedric |
Fri 6th November 2009, 8:20pm
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 6th November 2009, 1:44pm)  Once again: I have Dalby's book. It appears to be poorly written and very fanboyish, despite the promotional blubs claiming it to be some kind of exposé or critique. It's a freak-show, basically. I just can't take seriously a book that makes statements like this: QUOTE Durova and SlimVirgin, high-profile Wikipedians, brave enough to court all kinds of controversy, are among those who have achieved this fame and have withstood the pressure of scurrilous attacks from the shadows beyond the encyclopedia. I have already mentioned some others whose names are bandied about on the wikifringes and who go on working: Raul654, Eloquence and Danny, Anthere and David.Monniaux are among them. " Knowing the histories of those "brave" people, this statement is either totally insane, or was intended to be satirical--and failed. But did his book get a glowing foreword from Jimbo? Given his inclusion of Danny and Anthere in his pantheon of "heroes", I'm guessing NOT. 
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sappho The World and Wikipedia - Andrew Dalby Sun 1st November 2009, 9:13pm Cedric
Did anyone read this book yet?
The fact that ... Mon 2nd November 2009, 4:25pm Peter Damian
Note also that Dalby has had a Wikipedia account... Mon 2nd November 2009, 4:33pm GlassBeadGame
Did anyone read this book yet?
The fact that ... Tue 3rd November 2009, 9:24pm  Cedric
[quote name='Cedric' post='202548' date='Mon 2nd ... Tue 3rd November 2009, 11:34pm   tarantino
[quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='202804' date='T... Wed 4th November 2009, 3:43am    Milton Roe
[quote name='Cedric' post='202830' date='Tue 3rd ... Wed 4th November 2009, 4:06am A Horse With No Name I was planning to purchase a copy. It appears to ... Mon 2nd November 2009, 4:29pm Peter Damian Some interesting material in his user space here
... Mon 2nd November 2009, 4:44pm A Horse With No Name
Some interesting material in his user space here
... Mon 2nd November 2009, 4:56pm  thekohser
Law is not in the book, but ChildofMidnight and h... Mon 2nd November 2009, 5:13pm   Jon Awbrey
No mention of User:Wikipedia Review or User:Theko... Fri 6th November 2009, 8:30pm  grievous
This is a riot, considering who gets into the bo... Fri 6th November 2009, 7:59pm   EricBarbour Cast of characters, or the usual suspects?
That... Fri 6th November 2009, 8:38pm    A Horse With No Name
Cast of characters, or the usual suspects?
That... Fri 6th November 2009, 9:29pm     EricBarbour Some of the people on the list seem like peculiar ... Sat 7th November 2009, 9:53am      A Horse With No Name
I could answer you with my own question: Why are ... Sat 7th November 2009, 12:09pm      Happy drinker
I could answer you with my own question: Why are ... Sat 7th November 2009, 2:44pm       gomi I could answer you with my own question: Why are t... Sat 7th November 2009, 11:48pm     Andrew Dalby
[quote name='EricBarbour' post='203236' date='Fri... Sat 7th November 2009, 5:33pm      Andrew Dalby And of course the Review is mentioned at the cruci... Sat 7th November 2009, 6:37pm      Milton Roe
[quote name='A Horse With No Name' post='203240' ... Sat 7th November 2009, 7:58pm       Jon Awbrey
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[size=7]ewwwww ¤ yuck ¤ :sick: Sat 7th November 2009, 8:10pm        Milton Roe
[quote name='Milton Roe' post='203372' date='Sat ... Sat 7th November 2009, 8:31pm         Jon Awbrey
[quote name='Milton Roe' post='203372' date='Sat... Sat 7th November 2009, 8:36pm       Andrew Dalby If your editor choices are meant to be illustrati... Sat 7th November 2009, 8:43pm        Jon Awbrey
In preparation, why not start a thread on Wikiped... Sat 7th November 2009, 9:00pm        Milton Roe
[quote name='Milton Roe' post='203372' date='Sat ... Sat 7th November 2009, 9:03pm        GlassBeadGame
If your editor choices are meant to be illustrat... Sat 7th November 2009, 9:31pm         Andrew Dalby
[quote name='Andrew Dalby' post='203380' date='Sa... Sun 8th November 2009, 2:48pm        Cedric
[quote name='Milton Roe' post='203372' date='Sat ... Sat 7th November 2009, 9:39pm       EricBarbour The book's real aim is to make non-Wikipedians... Mon 9th November 2009, 4:21am        Malleus
[quote name='Andrew Dalby' post='203355' date='Sa... Mon 9th November 2009, 4:43am         Cock-up-over-conspiracy ... but apart from that it was OK?
And, more to th... Mon 9th November 2009, 3:13pm        Andrew Dalby
Now that I've gotten that out of the way ....... Mon 9th November 2009, 1:41pm        Andrew Dalby
There's quite a bit of spluttering in your bo... Tue 10th November 2009, 1:47pm      the fieryangel
Tell me who you mean and I might tell you whether... Sat 7th November 2009, 11:47pm       Andrew Dalby
I think that you're cutting way too much o... Sun 8th November 2009, 2:35pm        the fieryangel
I think that you're cutting way too much ... Sun 8th November 2009, 2:51pm         Andrew Dalby
You were the one who selected these two sentences... Sun 8th November 2009, 3:32pm          the fieryangel
If you want more, Angel, you'll have to buy t... Sun 8th November 2009, 3:41pm           Andrew Dalby If Wikipedia Review is so boring, then what are yo... Sun 8th November 2009, 4:03pm            the fieryangel
If Wikipedia Review is so boring, then what are y... Sun 8th November 2009, 4:23pm          Milton Roe
There is a Taoist axiom: Think about Right and ... Sun 8th November 2009, 6:20pm           GlassBeadGame
[quote name='Andrew Dalby' post='203512' date='Su... Sun 8th November 2009, 6:51pm           Andrew Dalby
And I still don't know why you didn't nam... Sun 8th November 2009, 7:21pm            Peter Damian
As Wikipedia undermines and destroys other source... Sun 8th November 2009, 7:57pm             Andrew Dalby
[quote name='Andrew Dalby' post='203555' date='Su... Sun 8th November 2009, 8:29pm              A Horse With No Name
Now you're talking! Evidence not just fro... Sun 8th November 2009, 8:58pm               Andrew Dalby
[quote name='Andrew Dalby' post='203561' date='Su... Sun 8th November 2009, 9:45pm               Somey Wikipedia might be a reflection of the so-called ... Sun 8th November 2009, 9:53pm                A Horse With No Name
Wikipedia might be a reflection of the so-called ... Sun 8th November 2009, 10:46pm                 Andrew Dalby
[quote name='Somey' post='203573' date='Sun 8th N... Mon 9th November 2009, 1:52pm                  A Horse With No Name
True, but -- up to now -- general book publishing... Mon 9th November 2009, 2:01pm SB_Johnny Welcome to WR, sappho. This your book, perchance? Mon 2nd November 2009, 5:58pm sappho Actually it's not my book; I just happened to ... Tue 3rd November 2009, 10:39am Cedric
Actually it's not my book; I just happened to... Tue 3rd November 2009, 1:20pm A Horse With No Name
Funny, Dalby only mentions Keeper76 for closing a... Tue 3rd November 2009, 4:50pm Limey I'm rather skeptical of a book only held in ei... Tue 3rd November 2009, 3:16pm Cedric Having now read Slim Shanky's full review, eve... Tue 3rd November 2009, 4:31pm  Peter Damian
Having now read Slim Shanky's full review, ev... Tue 3rd November 2009, 4:43pm   CharlotteWebb
[quote name='Cedric' post='202750' date='Tue 3rd ... Tue 3rd November 2009, 5:07pm    Cedric
[quote name='Cedric' post='202750' date='Tue 3rd... Tue 3rd November 2009, 6:43pm  carbuncle
Having now read Slim Shanky's full review, ev... Tue 3rd November 2009, 7:13pm   Somey It was subtle, but did I detect a hint of self-ser... Tue 3rd November 2009, 8:49pm thekohser Shankbone needs a proofreader:
Tue 3rd November 2009, 4:39pm sappho I am rather sorry to have bothered you all - my in... Wed 4th November 2009, 3:02pm carbuncle
I am rather sorry to have bothered you all - my i... Wed 4th November 2009, 3:35pm Cedric
I am rather sorry to have bothered you all - my i... Wed 4th November 2009, 6:25pm  A Horse With No Name Smaller publishing houses run on rather thin margi... Wed 4th November 2009, 7:16pm Somey So it's not a good idea to get an expert to wr... Thu 5th November 2009, 11:04pm Peter Damian So it's not a good idea to get an expert to wr... Fri 6th November 2009, 8:19am Peter Damian
So it's not a good idea to get an expert to w... Fri 6th November 2009, 1:11pm gomi here in the Tar Pit.] Fri 6th November 2009, 6:53pm Andrew Dalby I thought I'd look in ...
The fact that ... Sat 7th November 2009, 4:33pm the fieryangel
On this you're very wrong. I don't say th... Sat 7th November 2009, 5:05pm Cedric
I thought I'd look in ...
[quote name='Cedri... Sat 7th November 2009, 7:00pm  Andrew Dalby
You may want to call your publisher-- it would a... Sat 7th November 2009, 7:50pm   Peter Damian
I'm puzzled too. I haven't yet explored t... Sat 7th November 2009, 9:45pm thekohser
On this you're very wrong. I don't say th... Sat 7th November 2009, 10:03pm Peter Damian Hello Andrew. I am intrigued to learn that there ... Sat 7th November 2009, 6:48pm Jon Awbrey As long as you're Reviewing The Situation, Mis... Sat 7th November 2009, 7:36pm Jon Awbrey Oh good, another n00b to splain it all to from scr... Sat 7th November 2009, 9:12pm Moulton Wikipedia is such a corrupting influence on so man... Sun 8th November 2009, 3:16pm  Jon Awbrey
[quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='203384' date='Sat ... Sun 8th November 2009, 3:26pm Andrew Dalby
[quote name='Andrew Dalby' post='203349' date='Sa... Sun 8th November 2009, 3:18pm Moulton There is a Taoist axiom: Think about Right and Wr... Sun 8th November 2009, 3:23pm Jon Awbrey Okay, I think I've read enough.
Like a trew b... Sun 8th November 2009, 10:22pm EricBarbour Yeah, sure. (urp) Mon 9th November 2009, 10:12am GlassBeadGame I was curious just how this drivel got published. ... Mon 9th November 2009, 2:13pm thekohser
I was curious just how this drivel got published.... Mon 9th November 2009, 5:50pm  GlassBeadGame
[quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='203685' date='M... Mon 9th November 2009, 6:07pm A Horse With No Name As someone who did book PR for many years, I am cu... Mon 9th November 2009, 6:00pm Somey Now, c'mon guys, it hardly seems necessary to ... Mon 9th November 2009, 6:16pm GlassBeadGame
Now, c'mon guys, it hardly seems necessary to... Mon 9th November 2009, 6:29pm  Andrew Dalby If it is a legitimate publishing business, let him... Tue 10th November 2009, 1:33pm   GlassBeadGame
If it is a legitimate publishing business, let hi... Tue 10th November 2009, 2:15pm
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