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post Tue 10th November 2009, 1:57am
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So the nominations for the 2009 arbcom elections are open. In other news, the voting method, the no. of candidates being elected, and their terms are not yet established, so if you'd like to nominate yourself for an indeterminate amount of time, to be decided in an indeterminate way, to a committee of indeterminate no. roll up, roll up, roll up :-)

ps. I was feeling a bit amused by the above, and decided to withdraw (partly as an intensely thought through socio-political and philosophical comment on the elections and the process) - unfortunately it didn't stick. I'm not sure if that means I'm running or not.

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Shalom and Kurt running for Arbcom? When does DougsTech throw his hat into the ring? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 12th November 2009, 1:44am) *

Shalom and Kurt running for Arbcom? When does DougsTech throw his hat into the ring? laugh.gif

I don't keep track of these things, but have there ever been any arbitrators who weren't administrators?
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QUOTE(Malleus @ Wed 11th November 2009, 8:55pm) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 12th November 2009, 1:44am) *

Shalom and Kurt running for Arbcom? When does DougsTech throw his hat into the ring? laugh.gif

I don't keep track of these things, but have there ever been any arbitrators who weren't administrators?

A couple in the very early days. See [[User:NoSeptember/Functionaries#Arbitration Committee members (former)]] for the particulars, if you're curious.

If a non-administrator were ever elected as an arbitrator (which I don't especially favor but is not against policy), I think we'd have to confer adminship for the duration of his or her term. It would be very difficult for an arbitrator to review some cases without the ability to review deleted revisions, for example.

(If someone objected that we shouldn't make someone an admin who hadn't passed RfA, we could require the person to use the administrator buttons only for the purpose of his or her arbitration work, not for performing the usual roles of adminship.)
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QUOTE(Newyorkbrad @ Wed 11th November 2009, 9:17pm) *

QUOTE(Malleus @ Wed 11th November 2009, 8:55pm) *

I don't keep track of these things, but have there ever been any arbitrators who weren't administrators?

A couple in the very early days. See [[User:NoSeptember/Functionaries#Arbitration Committee members (former)]] for the particulars, if you're curious.

If a non-administrator were ever elected as an arbitrator (which I don't especially favor but is not against policy), I think we'd have to confer adminship for the duration of his or her term. It would be very difficult for an arbitrator to review some cases without the ability to review deleted revisions, for example.

(If someone objected that we shouldn't make someone an admin who hadn't passed RfA, we could require the person to use the administrator buttons only for the purpose of his or her arbitration work, not for performing the usual roles of adminship.)

There's nothing to say that an administrator must pass "Requests for adminship" to become one. In fact, there is a diff floating around somewhere from Jimmy from within the past year saying exactly the opposite.

If someone can "win" the Arbitration Committee election, there is absolutely no reason for them to not automatically be granted adminship. Adminship is about trust, after all.

That said, as far as I'm aware, it would be trivial to have a steward create a custom user group for the English Wikipedia that only included certain user rights (like the user right to view deleted content) without including the rest of the admin package.
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privatemusings   The circus hits town   Tue 10th November 2009, 1:57am
dtobias   I don't think they were actually saying that y...   Tue 10th November 2009, 4:08am
Wizardman   I promise not to run in this year's election.   Tue 10th November 2009, 4:12am
everyking   I promise not to run in this year's election....   Tue 10th November 2009, 4:20am
Cla68   I promise not to run in this year's election...   Tue 10th November 2009, 4:25am
Wizardman   I promise not to run in this year's election...   Tue 10th November 2009, 4:40am
Cla68   [quote name='everyking' post='203803' date='Mon 9...   Tue 10th November 2009, 4:48am
everyking   Well, seeing as how my motions kept your restrict...   Tue 10th November 2009, 5:37am
Viridae   [quote name='everyking' post='203803' date='Tue 1...   Tue 10th November 2009, 5:55am
gomi   I think the ArbCom's performance this year was...   Tue 10th November 2009, 6:16am
Kurt M. Weber   [quote name='Viridae' post='203809' date='Mon 9th...   Tue 10th November 2009, 1:53pm
Lar   I think the ArbCom's performance this year w...   Tue 10th November 2009, 11:31am
Somey   I guess the way I see it, the current ArbCom is an...   Tue 10th November 2009, 7:09am
Cla68   Ironically, increased user attrition is probably ...   Thu 12th November 2009, 1:38am
thekohser   The current ArbCom proved to me that it will not t...   Tue 10th November 2009, 12:58pm
Guido den Broeder   Improvement or not, the level at which the Arbcom ...   Tue 10th November 2009, 1:24pm
A Horse With No Name   Improvement or not, the level at which the Arbcom...   Tue 10th November 2009, 2:18pm
thekohser   In many ways, Arbcom is a thankless task. But doe...   Tue 10th November 2009, 3:41pm
Jaranda   So far a slow start for nominations compared to la...   Tue 10th November 2009, 5:40pm
CharlotteWebb   So far a slow start for nominations compared to l...   Tue 10th November 2009, 6:12pm
Fritz   Fritzpoll's bot has (or had) another task to...   Tue 10th November 2009, 8:22pm
Kurt M. Weber   and another who's just trolling that page and...   Tue 10th November 2009, 7:48pm
Anonymous editor   [quote name='Jaranda' post='203922' date='Tue 10t...   Thu 12th November 2009, 6:46am
Herschelkrustofsky   So far a slow start for nominations compared to l...   Wed 11th November 2009, 10:12pm
Eva Destruction   We also have him saying in reply to Iridescent, ...   Thu 12th November 2009, 12:13am
Nerd   We also have him saying in reply to Iridescent, ...   Thu 12th November 2009, 12:32am
Nerd   Arbcom has improved a tad since last year. Just a ...   Tue 10th November 2009, 6:10pm
thekohser   Criteria: Editors must have 1,000 mainspace edits...   Tue 10th November 2009, 6:12pm
Nerd   Criteria: Editors must have 1,000 mainspace edit...   Tue 10th November 2009, 6:16pm
Apathetic   Since when did Kurt get unbanned? He left Wiki...   Tue 10th November 2009, 7:07pm
Sarcasticidealist   How do I determine if I've 1,000 mainspace edi...   Tue 10th November 2009, 7:23pm
CharlotteWebb   [quote name='thekohser' post='203926' date='Tue 1...   Tue 10th November 2009, 7:41pm
Sarcasticidealist   Your links are fuxored, see [1].I won't even p...   Tue 10th November 2009, 7:45pm
Shalom   How do I determine if I've 1,000 mainspace ed...   Tue 10th November 2009, 9:39pm
Guido den Broeder   Criteria: Editors must have 1,000 mainspace edit...   Wed 11th November 2009, 1:24am
Malleus   [quote name='thekohser' post='203926' date='Tue 1...   Wed 11th November 2009, 2:03am
Sarcasticidealist   So, users that up their count by randomly removing...   Wed 11th November 2009, 4:27am
thekohser   The criteria say nothing about being banned. So, ...   Tue 10th November 2009, 9:34pm
Nerd   The criteria say nothing about being banned. So,...   Tue 10th November 2009, 10:42pm
Happy drinker   It would be kind of impossible to, you know, answ...   Tue 10th November 2009, 10:54pm
dtobias   He can do everything on his talk page. And of co...   Wed 11th November 2009, 2:58am
Kelly Martin   I would expect that it would be regarded as the pr...   Wed 11th November 2009, 3:57am
Random832   I would expect that it would be regarded as the pr...   Wed 11th November 2009, 9:16pm
A Horse With No Name   [quote name='Nerd' post='204002' date='Tue 10th N...   Wed 11th November 2009, 3:06pm
Happy drinker   Greg's candidacy could be used to raise the i...   Wed 11th November 2009, 5:07pm
A Horse With No Name   [quote name='A Horse With No Name' post='204144' ...   Wed 11th November 2009, 5:10pm
thekohser   [quote name='A Horse With No Name' post='204144'...   Wed 11th November 2009, 5:30pm
Happy drinker   He didn't "achieve" a reblock -- Ar...   Wed 11th November 2009, 5:42pm
Milton Roe   He didn't "achieve" a reblock -- Ar...   Wed 11th November 2009, 10:28pm
AGK   Greg's candidacy could be used to raise the is...   Tue 17th November 2009, 2:37am
Apathetic   The criteria say nothing about being banned. So...   Tue 10th November 2009, 11:02pm
EricBarbour   I wonder.....should I bring up certain Arbcommers...   Tue 10th November 2009, 11:05pm
Cla68   I wonder.....should I bring up certain Arbcommers...   Wed 11th November 2009, 12:17am
Kelly Martin   I am almost bored enough to run. Almost. Not qui...   Wed 11th November 2009, 2:52am
thekohser   Is Kurt Weber aware of the fact that 7 out of 9 of...   Wed 11th November 2009, 4:26am
everyking   Is Kurt Weber aware of the fact that 7 out of 9 o...   Wed 11th November 2009, 4:31am
Nerd   At the rate things are going, every candidate who ...   Wed 11th November 2009, 6:03pm
A Horse With No Name   At the rate things are going, every candidate who...   Wed 11th November 2009, 6:21pm
Nerd   As usual, Arbcom is pretending the rest of the ...   Wed 11th November 2009, 6:59pm
Malleus   [quote name='Malleus' post='204258' date='Wed 11t...   Thu 12th November 2009, 2:24am
Newyorkbrad   [quote name='Malleus' post='204258' date='Wed 11...   Thu 12th November 2009, 3:30am
Malleus   Personally, I think we approve people for adminshi...   Thu 12th November 2009, 3:35am
Newyorkbrad   Personally, I think we approve people for adminsh...   Thu 12th November 2009, 3:39am
Malleus   If a new feature accessible to admins is introduce...   Thu 12th November 2009, 4:00am
A Horse With No Name   [quote name='Newyorkbrad' post='204282' date='Thu...   Thu 12th November 2009, 3:41am
Kevin   These idiots do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi...   Thu 12th November 2009, 4:13am
Eva Destruction   FWIW, following up on your earlier question, the ...   Thu 12th November 2009, 2:48pm
Malleus   cough cough cough cough cough There was once a t...   Thu 12th November 2009, 2:50pm
Newyorkbrad   Bullshit, it was Giano. You can't have forgot...   Thu 12th November 2009, 4:59pm
Jon Awbrey   I'm widely known for making stuff up like tha...   Thu 12th November 2009, 6:15pm
everyking   That talk page has got to be just about one of t...   Thu 12th November 2009, 10:38pm
Kelly Martin   If a non-administrator were ever elected as an arb...   Thu 12th November 2009, 3:06am
Malleus   It is past time that Wikipedia deubndled admin too...   Thu 12th November 2009, 3:24am
Happy drinker   There are many admins who I would trust to use so...   Thu 12th November 2009, 9:42pm
Kelly Martin   However, by definition an admin has passed RfA hen...   Fri 13th November 2009, 1:53am
Happy drinker   I leave it to the observer to decide which of the...   Fri 13th November 2009, 4:46pm
A Horse With No Name   My argument is that when I !vote on an RfA, I...   Fri 13th November 2009, 5:03pm
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A Horse With No Name   I vote according to eye candy -- if I have to loo...   Mon 16th November 2009, 1:29am
Malleus   I leave it to the observer to decide which of th...   Fri 13th November 2009, 9:43pm
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Casliber   I promise not to run in this year's election...   Thu 12th November 2009, 2:03am
Casliber   It is my opinion that.... Now why not just sa...   Thu 12th November 2009, 3:30am
Sarcasticidealist   Well how about that?   Fri 13th November 2009, 12:27am
everyking   Well how about that? I suppose it's appropr...   Fri 13th November 2009, 1:14am
Guest   Its Bauder Time!   Fri 13th November 2009, 12:44am
Guest   Its Bauder Time! For some reason, we unregis...   Fri 13th November 2009, 2:28am
Newyorkbrad   Its Bauder Time! For some reason, we unregi...   Fri 13th November 2009, 2:32am
Guest   [quote name='Guest' post='204530' date='Thu 12th ...   Fri 13th November 2009, 2:41am
Enter my name?   I'll be damned.   Fri 13th November 2009, 2:32am
A Horse With No Name   What a choice...Jehochman, Bauder, Wehwalt, Kurt, ...   Fri 13th November 2009, 2:36am
Jaranda   I didn't see one clear cut candidate yet, only...   Fri 13th November 2009, 4:47pm
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SirFozzie   I didn't see one clear cut candidate yet, on...   Fri 13th November 2009, 10:51pm
Limey   [quote name='Happy drinker' post='204648' date='F...   Mon 16th November 2009, 1:07am
InkBlot   I'd run, but I have less than 50 mainspace edi...   Mon 16th November 2009, 3:27pm
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