"Wikipedia Forever" - fundraising campaign, or non-stop laff riot? Options

[carbuncle]

It appears this donation has been removed.

I wonder how long this one will stay?

WARREN JEFFORDS
Save Energy, cut Emissions, purify Water, increase Farm, Orchard, and Dairy Production, improve Health and Wellness. Claims, products proven in Mexico. See"Library" in www.EcoRadiantMarketing.Com

If I were him, I'd ask for my $75 back if they remove it...

[GlassBeadGame]

It appears this donation has been removed.

I wonder how long this one will stay?

WARREN JEFFORDS
Save Energy, cut Emissions, purify Water, increase Farm, Orchard, and Dairy Production, improve Health and Wellness. Claims, products proven in Mexico. See"Library" in www.EcoRadiantMarketing.Com

If I were him, I'd ask for my $75 back if they remove it...

Ad revenues are taxable, even for otherwise tax-exempt corporations.

[victim of censorship]

They seem to list corporate donations here.
Donate/Benefactors
Is the Foundation choosy from who they take money from?
Maybe Hustler Magazine or some Japanese whale meat company could donate,

I wonder if these people would appreciate

Best Buy Children's Foundation Tag Team Awards

the works of SKANKBONE User:TwoWings and the other Namblers, and Peds
who are active on the mighty wiki.

The Childrens Foundation would appreciate
the articles and photos which would be available
to all young school children like this one
A how to picture
Got to love the frenchies
(NOT)

This post has been edited by victim of censorship: Mon 16th November 2009, 12:38am

[Cedric]

I wonder if these people would appreciate

Best Buy Children's Foundation Tag Team Awards

the works of SKANKBONE and the other Namblers, and Peds
who are active on the mighty wiki.

The Childrens Foundation would appreciate
the articles and photos which would be available
to all young school children like this one
A how to picture
Got to love the frenchies
(NOT)

As much as I hate to defend Slim Shanky (and I do hate it), it isn't playing fair to lump him in with pedos and purveyors of child porn just because of his sexual orientation. While the available evidence strongly supports the idea that Shanky is a thoroughgoing narcissist, relentless self-promoter and, well, an asshole, there is simply no evidence to suggest that he is a pedo or an apologist for pedos. His interest in porn is definitely in the category of adult and gay.

That being said, I do agree with your apparent argument that WP is choc full of images that are not suitable for viewing by children. I started a thread on the potential legal implications of this nearly a year ago.

[victim of censorship]

I wonder if these people would appreciate

Best Buy Children's Foundation Tag Team Awards

the works of SKANKBONE and the other Namblers, and Peds
who are active on the mighty wiki.

The Childrens Foundation would appreciate
the articles and photos which would be available
to all young school children like this one
A how to picture
Got to love the frenchies
(NOT)

As much as I hate to defend Slim Shanky (and I do hate it), it isn't playing fair to lump him in with pedos and purveyors of child porn just because of his sexual orientation. While the available evidence strongly supports the idea that Shanky is a thoroughgoing narcissist, relentless self-promoter and, well, an asshole, there is simply no evidence to suggest that he is a pedo or an apologist for pedos. His interest in porn is definitely in the category of adult and gay.

That being said, I do agree with your apparent argument that WP is choc full of images that are not suitable for viewing by children. I started a thread on the potential legal implications of this nearly a year ago.

But they stand, as a block, defending this dribble? So the net effect is "yes" they are.

Besides, Gay porn is not what the"The Childrens Foundation" has bought in to anyway, iirespective of the type of porn Wikpeidia is allowing.

This post has been edited by victim of censorship: Mon 16th November 2009, 12:35am

[thekohser]

Another idiot business owner who will need to buy my e-book.

Ben Nicolas
Is it possible to create a Wikipedia entry for my small business? I'm a Real Estate Broker in Los Angeles, CA www.ietrealestate.com

This post has been edited by thekohser: Mon 16th November 2009, 3:34pm

[Apathetic]

some lulz should ensue in the following:

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Proposal_for_community_ban_of_User:Eloquence (aka Erik Moller)

[Mike R]

some lulz should ensue in the following:

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Proposal_for_community_ban_of_User:Eloquence (aka Erik Moller)

Is there a lulz barnstar someone can give this guy?

[Gazimoff]

You would have thought that one of the most basic things they could have included alongside the campaign banner was a like/dislike button, in a similar style to Facebook and something that almost every ad supplier except Google seems to be picking up. Voila, instant feedback from your readers about why they do or don't like the banner concept. Collect the data, phase out unpopular ads and replicate concepts used in the popular ones.

Is this stuff really that hard?

[EricBarbour]

some lulz should ensue in the following:
Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Proposal_for_community_ban_of_User:Eloquence (aka Erik Moller)

Um, if there was a proposal to ban Eloquence there, it's now gone.
"Archived" my ass---it's gone.

This was the last diff I could find. Crotalus appears to have started it.

Community consensus is nearly unanimous that this year's fundraising banners are atrocious. In accordance with this consensus, the messages were disabled in the site-wide Common.css file. Unfortunately, that change was rolled back by User:Eloquence, under the claim that "fundraiser sitenotices aren't subject to community consensus". Other statements by this user, who apparently was appointed to some kind of position by Jimbo, exhibit further contempt for the Wikipedia community. Examples: [89] ("community members hating a banner tells us very little about how well it works or how the general public perceives it ... removal of the site-wide fundraising messages by community members isn't OK"), [90] ("fundraising banners have always been Foundation decisions"), [91] ("the parts of a message or banner that make you hate it are also the ones that make it work"), [92] (insisting that banners need to be as obtrusive as possible).

We must emphasize that this site belongs to the Wikipedia community, not Jimbo's cronies. At this point in time, it appears that the only way to effectively communicate the depth of our feelings in this matter is to community-ban Erik Moller, aka Eloquence, from the English Wikipedia. Time to reassert ourselves and take back this site. It's a drastic step, but it is the only thing we can do, unless Wikipedia is to degenerate into just another closed, top-down website. *** Crotalus *** 18:54, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

* Erik Möller is the deputy director of the Wikimedia Foundation. –xenotalk 18:59, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
* This is the wrong venue for these concerns. WMF has the right to execute official actions on WMF sites. This site is literally owned by WMF. Administrators here do not have the power to overrule official actions. Please take your concerns to WMF. I am closing this discussion as it is not an incident that can be handled here. Jehochman Talk 19:04, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

And poof, as soon as I finished entering the above, it reappeared......

This post has been edited by EricBarbour: Tue 17th November 2009, 12:06am

[Milton Roe]

You would have thought that one of the most basic things they could have included alongside the campaign banner was a like/dislike button, in a similar style to Facebook and something that almost every ad supplier except Google seems to be picking up. Voila, instant feedback from your readers about why they do or don't like the banner concept. Collect the data, phase out unpopular ads and replicate concepts used in the popular ones.

Is this stuff really that hard?

It is when you don't really actually give a shit about the reader.

This is why large corporations that actually sell products, have one set of people who engineer and code and whatnot, and quite another set of people who do the complaint dept, focus groups, and advertising. Do not let programmers run your fund drives.

Make the company too small and don't pay attention to the division of labor, and you end up with products that have a hidden on/off switch, and many other trickily programmable features hidden far down in a decision tree which you cannot access without a special command in the manual. Which User Manual appears to have been stolen from a late term paper, written angrily at the last minute by a guy taking Communications 301: Nerdliness as a Way of Being.

[Krimpet]

The phrase "(ad-)free forever" keeps reminding me of those gawd-awful "Evony: Free Forever" ads that are plastered all over Google's ad network. (If the WMF is interested in heading in that direction, I'm sure they've got plenty of cheesecake pictures to use on Commons. )

Thankfully, they haven't brought back the <marquee> from their 2007 fundraising ad campaign. If the intent was to shock people via an epileptic seizure into whipping out their credit card, it was a smashing success.

[grievous]

I received a reply from Anya, that the comment will be taken down from their site within an hour. (If it's anything like the flagged revisions estimated time to process, the comment will be down in March or April.)

The comment has been removed.

Ahhh Ha HA HA HAAAAAAH ! ! !

Somebody just wasted $6.66 out of their allowance!

How much is that in AUS$ at current conversion rates? Adrian may have to eat his cat now.

This post has been edited by grievous: Tue 17th November 2009, 5:08pm

[Brutus]

They seem to list corporate donations here.
Donate/Benefactors
Is the Foundation choosy from who they take money from?
Maybe Hustler Magazine or some Japanese whale meat company could donate,

I wonder if these people would appreciate

Best Buy Children's Foundation Tag Team Awards

the works of SKANKBONE User:TwoWings and the other Namblers, and Peds
who are active on the mighty wiki.

The Childrens Foundation would appreciate
the articles and photos which would be available
to all young school children like this one
A how to picture
Got to love the frenchies
(NOT)

I recall(?) Jimbo made a decree on images like those, any images which required age record keeping were to be immediately deleted.

Send all of above plus any others to your local elected official, school board, etc etc.
Porn Pictures.

[One]

I received a reply from Anya, that the comment will be taken down from their site within an hour. (If it's anything like the flagged revisions estimated time to process, the comment will be down in March or April.)

The comment has been removed.

Ahhh Ha HA HA HAAAAAAH ! ! !

Somebody just wasted $6.66 out of their allowance!

Um, it still seems to be there.

It would be great to see the foundation adopt proposals like that. I know I could do quite a bit more work if I had access to a site like Lexis-Nexis.

Go to law school then.

[CharlotteWebb]

The phrase "(ad-)free forever" keeps reminding me of those gawd-awful "Evony: Free Forever" ads that are plastered all over Google's ad network.

Well in Evony you have the option of buying your way out of any calamity or time-sink that arises. If somebody's in ur base killin ur doods, you can whip out your credit card and make more of them almost instantly.

As far as I know donating money to WMF generally does not help players advance in the MMOWPG, though some seem conditioned to expect that. I think most would rather donate time anyway.

[MZMcBride]

I received a reply from Anya, that the comment will be taken down from their site within an hour. (If it's anything like the flagged revisions estimated time to process, the comment will be down in March or April.)

The comment has been removed.

Ahhh Ha HA HA HAAAAAAH ! ! !

Somebody just wasted $6.66 out of their allowance!

Um, it still seems to be there.

If I had to guess, I'd say they restored some backup and forgot to re-remove the deleted comments, though I'm simply speculating. It's Sunday, so nobody is really around right now. I sent an e-mail to the relevant people asking them to re-delete it.

[victim of censorship]

Another idiot business owner who will need to buy my e-book.

Ben Nicolas
Is it possible to create a Wikipedia entry for my small business? I'm a Real Estate Broker in Los Angeles, CA www.ietrealestate.com

You should put Ben in touch with Lisa Baur aka Durova and her Sekret ways of wiki.

Also, I collected some notable pages like this to show the local pta, the value of "Sum of all human knowledge" available for the children of my local school district and the list of notable donors, so as, these donors can take full credit for the the array of informative articles on World wide Jimmy juice dispenser.

other notable articles noted below, which a typical american school board should love...

food play
Fingering
snowballing
pegging
creampie

So on and so forth, all the words are innocent enough, but some kid types it in the DIRTY WIKI SEWER lake, and they will have " THE SUM OF HUMAN KNOWLEDGE" right there, in the face.

The PTA will be pleased that Wikipedia give a RATS ass what any one thinks. They will be please that Clownhead administrators will ignore and dismiss any one to dare question the MIGHTY WIKI.

WIKIPEDIA should be banned from all school, libraries and colleges, due to the fact it has no accountability, responsible over-site, or answers to any authority, other then it own warped gang of thugs. Wikipedia in nothing more then a cancer and site of hate and filth, masquerading as some kind of noble enterprise. Wikipedia is nothing more then a fecal lake of hate, lies and evil.

Any that gives money to Wikipedia are enablers all of the evil.

This post has been edited by victim of censorship: Sun 22nd November 2009, 8:11pm

[Milton Roe]

Another idiot business owner who will need to buy my e-book.

Ben Nicolas
Is it possible to create a Wikipedia entry for my small business? I'm a Real Estate Broker in Los Angeles, CA www.ietrealestate.com

You should put Ben in touch with Lisa Baur aka Durova and her Sekret ways of wiki.

Who needs Lisa?

Dear Ben:

You need to contact Jimbo Wales to have him use your brokerage, then write a stub on it, like he did for Mzoli's. Then you try to delete it as being non-notable.

In no time at all, people who wish to osculate Jimbo's gluteals on WP will expand the entry on your business into a full fledged article.

Now as to the matter of getting Jimbo to come see you. Do you have an attractive sister? Wife? Daughter? Unattractive ones? Any large female dogs?

[One]

Um, it still seems to be there.

If I had to guess, I'd say they restored some backup and forgot to re-remove the deleted comments, though I'm simply speculating. It's Sunday, so nobody is really around right now. I sent an e-mail to the relevant people asking them to re-delete it.

I'm not one to mindlessly criticize WMF, but how is it that every fundraising drive is marred with technical problems? It's not as if these now-annual drives are planned at the last minute, but they always seem to suffer crashes, payment problems, and frankly insane discord from the "community."