Beer nut's (Goethean) new sock of nuts Options Rating

[victim of censorship]

See Beer nut's new sock and how he is protected.

The beer nut Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) has made a new sock... Joeperez69 (T-C-L-K-R-D)

Proof, the writing style of the two users, as well as the same subject matter of interest and pov expressed by the two users account owners.

Note the fact he is using this new sock to promote, on the user page of Joeperez69 his brand of NEW AGE mumbo jumbo in the same way as goethean has on his old user page not consistent with wikrulez . WP:UP#NOT

Interesting too... Goethean's protector Gamaliel feel ok with the fact Goethean's has a sockman to spout new age Jive from his user pages.

This post has been edited by victim of censorship: Thu 10th December 2009, 6:08pm

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The beer nut Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) has made a new sock... Joeperez69 (T-C-L-K-R-D)

Proof, the writing style of the two users, as well as the same subject matter of interest and pov expressed by the two users account owners.

There's a general similarity, but I don't think it's the same person. "Joe Perez" originally made this AnonIP edit and then started an account... He has a fairly extensive website, and a blog in which he reveals himself to be a gay writer, all with photos and so on. Also a consulting firm, which may not be all that successful or even legitimate, but regardless it's not likely to be Goethean's - the site claims it's based in Seattle, and the AnonIP's address geolocates to Seattle.

Moreover, if you read the text of that diff, you'll see that he doesn't completely agree with Goethean on what the basic approach should be - Goethean is clearly a follower, whereas Joe Perez seems to be slightly less biased:

I have not read the article recently or thoroughly enough to produce a comprehensive list of bias issues. However, two that come to mind as immediately problematic are the use of "Wilberian" and "post-Wilberian" to describe various thinkers. I am not aware of any credible, independent source that is *not* a weblog that has ever used either of these terms.

I don't think Goethean would have written that - he's unquestioningly faithful to Wilber and the idea that Wilber is a major force in modern philosophy, whose bona fides are not to be doubted.

[victim of censorship]

The beer nut Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) has made a new sock... Joeperez69 (T-C-L-K-R-D)

Proof, the writing style of the two users, as well as the same subject matter of interest and pov expressed by the two users account owners.

There's a general similarity, but I don't think it's the same person. "Joe Perez" originally made this AnonIP edit and then started an account... He has a fairly extensive website, and a blog in which he reveals himself to be a gay writer, all with photos and so on. Also a consulting firm, which may not be all that successful or even legitimate, but regardless it's not likely to be Goethean's - the site claims it's based in Seattle, and the AnonIP's address geolocates to Seattle.

Moreover, if you read the text of that diff, you'll see that he doesn't completely agree with Goethean on what the basic approach should be - Goethean is clearly a follower, whereas Joe Perez seems to be slightly less biased:

I have not read the article recently or thoroughly enough to produce a comprehensive list of bias issues. However, two that come to mind as immediately problematic are the use of "Wilberian" and "post-Wilberian" to describe various thinkers. I am not aware of any credible, independent source that is *not* a weblog that has ever used either of these terms.

I don't think Goethean would have written that - he's unquestioningly faithful to Wilber and the idea that Wilber is a major force in modern philosophy, whose bona fides are not to be doubted.

Maybe... I see your point... I will take a closer look.

[Peter Damian]

Thank you for bringing my attention to this abomination

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_movement

Note also that following links to any of the names mentioned there takes you to something equally abominable.

What is to be done?

[EricBarbour]

Thank you for bringing my attention to this abomination
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_movement
Note also that following links to any of the names mentioned there takes you to something equally abominable.
What is to be done?

Not much, apparently. It's one of those subjects that is too obscure to attract much
administrative or cabalish attention.

If you're looking for more fans of "integral theory", here's a list of WP users involved.

(That's Wikipedia.........a popular magnet for the craziest nerds.)

This post has been edited by EricBarbour: Thu 10th December 2009, 10:54pm

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The beer nut Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) has made a new sock... Joeperez69 (T-C-L-K-R-D)

Proof, the writing style of the two users, as well as the same subject matter of interest and pov expressed by the two users account owners.

There's a general similarity, but I don't think it's the same person. "Joe Perez" originally made this AnonIP edit and then started an account... He has a fairly extensive website, and a blog in which he reveals himself to be a gay writer, all with photos and so on. Also a consulting firm, which may not be all that successful or even legitimate, but regardless it's not likely to be Goethean's - the site claims it's based in Seattle, and the AnonIP's address geolocates to Seattle.

Moreover, if you read the text of that diff, you'll see that he doesn't completely agree with Goethean on what the basic approach should be - Goethean is clearly a follower, whereas Joe Perez seems to be slightly less biased:

I have not read the article recently or thoroughly enough to produce a comprehensive list of bias issues. However, two that come to mind as immediately problematic are the use of "Wilberian" and "post-Wilberian" to describe various thinkers. I am not aware of any credible, independent source that is *not* a weblog that has ever used either of these terms.

I don't think Goethean would have written that - he's unquestioningly faithful to Wilber and the idea that Wilber is a major force in modern philosophy, whose bona fides are not to be doubted.

Maybe... I see your point... I will take a closer look.

Found this - Beer nut's friend joe-perez. It would seem JoePrez68 is not a sock, although, by the delightful wiki Ruelz, JoeP can be labled as a "MEATPUPPET" (WP:MEAT (T-H-L-K-D). Something hammered, for years, on me and my friends by the BEER NUT Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) and his admin protector (Gamaliel (T-C-L-K-R-D) ).
These guys are real nutballs.

This post has been edited by victim of censorship: Fri 11th December 2009, 1:00am