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post Sat 12th December 2009, 2:35pm
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There have been a number of Wikipedia projects or initiatives that have been launched with at least some fanfare and/or promise that they are important and that they will be carried out.

But then they fail.

Some examples:I believe we can add WMF staff member Rand Montoya's 2009 Fundraising Survey to this list now. Repeated asks for status updates have gone ignored now for several months. Even a Foundation-level inquiry has been met with silence.

Is anyone here a member of a business or an organization where if a project comes off the rails, and if junior employee or volunteer who contributed to the project asks publicly what the status of that project is, deafening silence is the prescribed response?

Why is this behavior accepted within the Wikimedia community? Is Rand Montoya unaccountable for his responsibilities, or is this some kind of "quiet period" leading up to his termination from the WMF payroll? I strongly suspect the former, because accountability just isn't on the WMF docket.




* If you're wondering what "raising hell" constitutes, it is "I strongly support that we get this turned on as quickly as reasonably possible, and I let the staff know this often."

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post Thu 17th December 2009, 3:18pm
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The ideas presented in this thread have inspired me to update (and I hope improve) my treatise on why you don't want to donate money to the Wikimedia Foundation.
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post Thu 17th December 2009, 3:55pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 17th December 2009, 10:18am) *

The ideas presented in this thread have inspired me to update (and I hope improve) my treatise on why you don't want to donate money to the Wikimedia Foundation.


Here's another one. Small donations make Wikipedia irresponsible and unresponsive to accountability. This actually is analogous to why wiki authored atomized content production breeds irresponsibility. No one has sufficient influence over an article to reach a threshold of accountability. Foundation giving, gifts by wealthy individual donors or government grants all facilitate accountability. Embarrassing scandals, BLP problems or lack of proper concern for children can be shaken off like water off a ducks back when raised by micro-donors. Not so when a foundation, rich person or government agency have their name on the line.

If you want to use it maybe put it in where the "CP instead" stuff resides now, as that promise has faded a good bit over time.
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post Thu 17th December 2009, 5:01pm
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If you want to use it maybe put it in where the "CP instead" stuff resides now, as that promise has faded a good bit over time.


What do you mean by "CP instead"? You mean Citizendium?

Yeah, I have to find something to replace that section.
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thekohser   When projects derail   Sat 12th December 2009, 2:35pm
Somey   Well, if we're talking about Wikipedia project...   Sat 12th December 2009, 6:54pm
thekohser   Well, if we're talking about Wikipedia projec...   Sun 13th December 2009, 2:59am
Somey   ...I can't say that I ever got the sense that ...   Thu 17th December 2009, 4:45pm
EricBarbour   And don't forget Wikiprojects. The current lis...   Sun 13th December 2009, 12:50am
RMHED   ... it strongly attracts people with fringe/crack...   Sun 13th December 2009, 12:53am
EricBarbour   ... it strongly attracts people with fringe/crac...   Sun 13th December 2009, 1:07am
GlassBeadGame   If you want to use it maybe put it in where the ...   Thu 17th December 2009, 5:09pm
thekohser   So, what do we all make of the 2009 Fundraising Su...   Mon 8th February 2010, 9:41pm


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