Sooper Sekrit insights into Weiss, Wales and SV, good for some, not so much for others Options

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Remember the sooper sekrit cyberstalking list? Well, it might come as no surprise to learn that it's sprung a few leaks and some email exchanges have made their way to me.

I have a detailed recounting of one particular exchange on DeepCapture.com, but here's the summary.

As you read this, keep in mind that both Gary Weiss socks Mantanmoreland and Samiharris were active members of the list, pretending to be separate people.

(This all took place between October 20 and 22, 2007)

• Jimbo says he thinks Gary Weiss is Mantanmoreland.
• Mantanmoreland freaks out.
• Jimbo says "The queen doth protest too much, Gary.”
• Mantanmoreland responds by calling Jimbo a "stalker."
• Samiharris shows up to support Mantanmoreland, and then compares Jimbo to our very own Somey!
• Jimbo says he worries that before long they will discover Weiss had been manipulating them "in a pretty sad way."

Having read through several threads, I must say my impression of Gary Weiss has plummeted yet more (incredible, but true), while my opinion of Jimbo and SlimVirgin as actually improved...quite a bit. That whole bunch was simply and endlessly manipulated by Weiss. I can now understand how reasonable people might doubt that it was even possible for one individual to expend so much energy pretending to be two.

My point being, Weiss was the fount of 90% of the darkness in those days (that being the BADSITES era, etc), and I have to assume that the only people who dislike him even more than me are the ones he so mercilessly duped.

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Having read through several threads, I must say my impression of Gary Weiss has plummeted yet more (incredible, but true), while my opinion of Jimbo and SlimVirgin as actually improved...quite a bit. That whole bunch was simply and endlessly manipulated by Weiss. I can now understand how reasonable people might doubt that it was even possible for one individual to expend so much energy pretending to be two.

I think you're basically on the money with SlimVirgin, but I continue to be disappointed with Jimbo in this affair. This incident happened before the "shoot on sight" nonsense. Don't forget Jimbo's "evidence" in the Mantanmoreland RFAR. He knew better for a long time, but continued to pretend otherwise.

As for "Mantanmoreland's" tendency to violently deny obvious inferences, that's one of the three "Never-A"s that Somey humorously wrote about several years ago. Game playing sockmasters never admit anything; they just register more accounts.

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Having read through several threads, I must say my impression of Gary Weiss has plummeted yet more (incredible, but true), while my opinion of Jimbo and SlimVirgin as actually improved...quite a bit. That whole bunch was simply and endlessly manipulated by Weiss. I can now understand how reasonable people might doubt that it was even possible for one individual to expend so much energy pretending to be two.

I think you're basically on the money with SlimVirgin, but I continue to be disappointed with Jimbo in this affair. This incident happened before the "shoot on sight" nonsense. Don't forget Jimbo's "evidence" in the Mantanmoreland RFAR. He knew better for a long time, but continued to pretend otherwise.

I understand and agree (though I do try not to think much about what that dichotomy did to me personally), but I guess I'm saying that in the end, I suspect Jimbo's intention was to avoid damaging Wikipedia by not being dragged into another Essjay scenario, not to protect Weiss per se.

Hmmm...now that I actually write that out, I suppose publicly throwing me under the bus to protect his project might be no better than the other, more sinister motives we had ascribed to his actions.

OK, let me "refactor": SlimVirgin gains, Weiss loses, Wales remains unchanged.