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Cla68
post Fri 18th December 2009, 10:39pm
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What's going on here? Why is it that a Featured Article candidate can sit in the FA nomination forum for three weeks and receive only three comments, but an ArbCom request on Giano gets input from 30 people in less than 24 hours?
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post Fri 18th December 2009, 11:52pm
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QUOTE(Cla68 @ Fri 18th December 2009, 10:39pm) *

What's going on here? Why is it that a Featured Article candidate can sit in the FA nomination forum for three weeks and receive only three comments, but an ArbCom request on Giano gets input from 30 people in less than 24 hours?


Because hardly anyone cares about FAC. A lot of people care about about Giano.
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post Sat 19th December 2009, 7:04pm
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QUOTE(Nerd @ Fri 18th December 2009, 11:52pm) *

QUOTE(Cla68 @ Fri 18th December 2009, 10:39pm) *

What's going on here? Why is it that a Featured Article candidate can sit in the FA nomination forum for three weeks and receive only three comments, but an ArbCom request on Giano gets input from 30 people in less than 24 hours?


Because hardly anyone cares about FAC. A lot of people care about about Giano.

Because, strange as it may seem, FAC is even worse of a political sinkhole than arbitration.
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post Sat 19th December 2009, 9:41pm
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QUOTE(Wiki Witch of the West @ Sat 19th December 2009, 8:04pm) *

QUOTE(Nerd @ Fri 18th December 2009, 11:52pm) *

Because hardly anyone cares about FAC. A lot of people care about about Giano.

Because, strange as it may seem, FAC is even worse of a political sinkhole than arbitration.


And at least the arbitrators are elected. No one can do anything about the self-appointed FA director.
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post Sat 19th December 2009, 11:13pm
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QUOTE(everyking @ Sat 19th December 2009, 9:41pm) *

QUOTE(Wiki Witch of the West @ Sat 19th December 2009, 8:04pm) *

QUOTE(Nerd @ Fri 18th December 2009, 11:52pm) *

Because hardly anyone cares about FAC. A lot of people care about about Giano.

Because, strange as it may seem, FAC is even worse of a political sinkhole than arbitration.


And at least the arbitrators are elected. No one can do anything about the self-appointed FA director.


Well, actually that's been discussed many times. The answer was "if it ain't broke..."

I'm not Raul fan, but unless there's other candidates pressing for the job, there's hardly a need for an election. Wikipedia is supposedly an encyclopedia, it has to my mind far too many elections. Having another one for the sake of democracy seems to be stupid.

However, if you want the job, I'll happily set up a page for people to vote between you and Raul.
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post Sun 20th December 2009, 3:00am
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QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Sun 20th December 2009, 12:13am) *

Well, actually that's been discussed many times. The answer was "if it ain't broke..."

I'm not Raul fan, but unless there's other candidates pressing for the job, there's hardly a need for an election. Wikipedia is supposedly an encyclopedia, it has to my mind far too many elections. Having another one for the sake of democracy seems to be stupid.

However, if you want the job, I'll happily set up a page for people to vote between you and Raul.


It shouldn't really be all that controversial to argue that an important position shouldn't be filled indefinitely, with no elections, by someone who appointed himself. I would be happy to do the job, but since at the moment I apparently can't even pass an RfA, I think my prospects would be rather dim--especially in some mock, non-binding poll set up by you.

QUOTE(The Joy @ Sun 20th December 2009, 1:35am) *

Is there a Deputy FA Director or a successor to Raul? If Raul disappears or is unable to continue working on Wikipedia, who has the permissions to handle FAs, if even on an interim basis? Just curious.


It seems suitable that someone would take the position the same way Raul did--you just start doing the job, and if anyone challenges you, ignore them. Eventually, it gets to a point where everyone is accustomed with it and people excuse the situation by saying "if it ain't broke..."

Of course, that kind of thing might not work on Wikipedia as it is now. Raul's ability to hang onto a self-appointed-for-life position might be nothing more than a relic of an earlier time, which couldn't be replicated by anyone else.
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Cla68   Giano at ArbCom   Fri 18th December 2009, 10:39pm
Text   You can figure it out in 5 seconds   Fri 18th December 2009, 10:52pm
GlassBeadGame   Another ArbCom member acting to silence minor diss...   Fri 18th December 2009, 11:02pm
Newyorkbrad   Just like NYB's bullying of ... Creampuff kid...   Fri 18th December 2009, 11:09pm
A Horse With No Name   (I wasn't bullying Kurt either, but it's ...   Sun 20th December 2009, 12:10am
TungstenCarbide   What's going on here? Why is it that a Featu...   Fri 18th December 2009, 11:28pm
Nerd   What's going on here? Why is it that a Featu...   Fri 18th December 2009, 11:52pm
EricBarbour   Because hardly anyone cares about FAC. A lot of pe...   Sat 19th December 2009, 3:39am
The Joy   [quote name='Wiki Witch of the West' post='21084...   Sun 20th December 2009, 12:35am
CharlotteWebb   Is there a Deputy FA Director or a successor to R...   Sun 20th December 2009, 12:51am
One   I would be happy to do the job, but since at the ...   Sun 20th December 2009, 7:27am
gomi   It's similarly easy for you to get out of the ...   Sun 20th December 2009, 9:28am
thekohser   And goodness knows there is no worse wiki-crime t...   Sun 20th December 2009, 7:30pm
Milton Roe   [quote name='gomi' post='210912' date='Sun 20th D...   Sun 20th December 2009, 10:06pm
the fieryangel   Getting back to the whole issue of this "Gian...   Sun 20th December 2009, 10:38pm
EricBarbour   I think that the only way to resolve this once and...   Sun 20th December 2009, 10:59pm
A Horse With No Name   And goodness knows there is no worse wiki-crime ...   Sun 20th December 2009, 11:24pm
radek   It seems from his statement that Giano apparently ...   Mon 21st December 2009, 7:18am
gomi   [quote name='gomi' post='210912' date='Sun 20th De...   Mon 21st December 2009, 7:25am
Doc glasgow   And goodness knows there is no worse wiki-crime ...   Mon 21st December 2009, 2:42pm
thekohser   Thanks, I removed the attack from the history. (...   Mon 21st December 2009, 3:26pm
Malleus   [quote name='Nerd' post='210735' date='Fri 18th D...   Sat 19th December 2009, 10:20pm
RDH(Ghost In The Machine)   To sum up: Giacomo playfully compares (full) Rlev...   Thu 24th December 2009, 1:53pm
Malleus   To sum up: Giacomo playfully compares [url=http:...   Thu 24th December 2009, 2:20pm
RDH(Ghost In The Machine)   To sum up: Giacomo playfully compares [url=http...   Thu 24th December 2009, 2:28pm
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='Malleus' post='211553' date='Thu 24t...   Thu 24th December 2009, 6:23pm
EricBarbour   [quote name='Malleus' post='211553' date='Thu 24th...   Sun 27th December 2009, 9:27am
A Horse With No Name   Coren is a disgrace. I think he is aware of tha...   Thu 24th December 2009, 5:26pm
Malleus   Coren is a disgrace. I think he is aware of th...   Thu 24th December 2009, 5:47pm
radek   Yep, Giano gets favorable treatment alright... ...   Thu 24th December 2009, 8:17pm
RDH(Ghost In The Machine)   Yep, Giano gets favorable treatment alright......   Sat 26th December 2009, 6:59pm
jayvdb   ...What, aside from his own personal crusade agai...   Sun 27th December 2009, 8:40am
The Joy   [quote name='RDH(Ghost In The Machine)' p...   Sun 27th December 2009, 9:06am
everyking   With some defense to Arbitrators, how can you hav...   Sun 27th December 2009, 9:11am
jayvdb   With some defense to Arbitrators, how can you hav...   Sun 27th December 2009, 10:48am
Malleus   With some defense to Arbitrators, how can you ha...   Sun 27th December 2009, 3:36pm
CharlotteWebb   Even on a slow day with no new cases, amendments,...   Sun 27th December 2009, 8:39pm
Lar   Even on a slow day with no new cases, amendments...   Sun 27th December 2009, 9:51pm
radek   [quote name='CharlotteWebb' post='212014' date='S...   Sun 27th December 2009, 11:32pm
radek   Hmm, yes, I generally agree with this.   Wed 30th December 2009, 8:52am
Kelly Martin   Coren was reelected because he has a strong lobby ...   Sun 27th December 2009, 10:55am
RDH(Ghost In The Machine)   Coren was reelected because he has a strong lobby...   Tue 29th December 2009, 12:34am


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