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| Doc glasgow |
Sat 19th December 2009, 11:13pm
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QUOTE(everyking @ Sat 19th December 2009, 9:41pm)  QUOTE(Wiki Witch of the West @ Sat 19th December 2009, 8:04pm)  QUOTE(Nerd @ Fri 18th December 2009, 11:52pm)  Because hardly anyone cares about FAC. A lot of people care about about Giano.
Because, strange as it may seem, FAC is even worse of a political sinkhole than arbitration. And at least the arbitrators are elected. No one can do anything about the self-appointed FA director. Well, actually that's been discussed many times. The answer was "if it ain't broke..." I'm not Raul fan, but unless there's other candidates pressing for the job, there's hardly a need for an election. Wikipedia is supposedly an encyclopedia, it has to my mind far too many elections. Having another one for the sake of democracy seems to be stupid. However, if you want the job, I'll happily set up a page for people to vote between you and Raul.
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| everyking |
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QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Sun 20th December 2009, 12:13am)  Well, actually that's been discussed many times. The answer was "if it ain't broke..."
I'm not Raul fan, but unless there's other candidates pressing for the job, there's hardly a need for an election. Wikipedia is supposedly an encyclopedia, it has to my mind far too many elections. Having another one for the sake of democracy seems to be stupid.
However, if you want the job, I'll happily set up a page for people to vote between you and Raul.
It shouldn't really be all that controversial to argue that an important position shouldn't be filled indefinitely, with no elections, by someone who appointed himself. I would be happy to do the job, but since at the moment I apparently can't even pass an RfA, I think my prospects would be rather dim--especially in some mock, non-binding poll set up by you. QUOTE(The Joy @ Sun 20th December 2009, 1:35am)  Is there a Deputy FA Director or a successor to Raul? If Raul disappears or is unable to continue working on Wikipedia, who has the permissions to handle FAs, if even on an interim basis? Just curious.
It seems suitable that someone would take the position the same way Raul did--you just start doing the job, and if anyone challenges you, ignore them. Eventually, it gets to a point where everyone is accustomed with it and people excuse the situation by saying "if it ain't broke..." Of course, that kind of thing might not work on Wikipedia as it is now. Raul's ability to hang onto a self-appointed-for-life position might be nothing more than a relic of an earlier time, which couldn't be replicated by anyone else.
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QUOTE(everyking @ Sun 20th December 2009, 3:00am)  I would be happy to do the job, but since at the moment I apparently can't even pass an RfA, I think my prospects would be rather dim--especially in some mock, non-binding poll set up by you.
This is a small quibble, but, you can pass RfA, but you apparently refuse to. I realize that a lot of the oppose votes were pretextual, but a large number of them honestly opposed because your answer to closing AFD's happened to be particularly clumsy. If you actually wanted to become an admin, your answer would look something like this: " I will not be closing any AFDs ever because I have some idiosyncratic views about how they should operate." It's similarly easy for you to get out of the last remaining ArbCom sanction. You just don't bring it up again and they lapse. But given your prior behavior, I expect you will post another "appeal" on January 1.
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Cla68 Giano at ArbCom Fri 18th December 2009, 10:39pm Text You can figure it out in 5 seconds Fri 18th December 2009, 10:52pm GlassBeadGame Another ArbCom member acting to silence minor diss... Fri 18th December 2009, 11:02pm Newyorkbrad
Just like NYB's bullying of ... Creampuff kid... Fri 18th December 2009, 11:09pm  A Horse With No Name
(I wasn't bullying Kurt either, but it's ... Sun 20th December 2009, 12:10am TungstenCarbide
What's going on here? Why is it that a Featu... Fri 18th December 2009, 11:28pm EricBarbour Because hardly anyone cares about FAC. A lot of pe... Sat 19th December 2009, 3:39am    The Joy
[quote name='Wiki Witch of the West' post='21084... Sun 20th December 2009, 12:35am     CharlotteWebb
Is there a Deputy FA Director or a successor to R... Sun 20th December 2009, 12:51am       thekohser
And goodness knows there is no worse wiki-crime t... Sun 20th December 2009, 7:30pm        Milton Roe
[quote name='gomi' post='210912' date='Sun 20th D... Sun 20th December 2009, 10:06pm         the fieryangel Getting back to the whole issue of this "Gian... Sun 20th December 2009, 10:38pm          EricBarbour I think that the only way to resolve this once and... Sun 20th December 2009, 10:59pm        A Horse With No Name
And goodness knows there is no worse wiki-crime ... Sun 20th December 2009, 11:24pm         radek It seems from his statement that Giano apparently ... Mon 21st December 2009, 7:18am        gomi [quote name='gomi' post='210912' date='Sun 20th De... Mon 21st December 2009, 7:25am        Doc glasgow
And goodness knows there is no worse wiki-crime ... Mon 21st December 2009, 2:42pm         thekohser
Thanks, I removed the attack from the history.
(... Mon 21st December 2009, 3:26pm  Malleus
[quote name='Nerd' post='210735' date='Fri 18th D... Sat 19th December 2009, 10:20pm RDH(Ghost In The Machine) To sum up:
Giacomo playfully compares (full) Rlev... Thu 24th December 2009, 1:53pm Malleus
To sum up:
Giacomo playfully compares [url=http:... Thu 24th December 2009, 2:20pm  RDH(Ghost In The Machine)
To sum up:
Giacomo playfully compares [url=http... Thu 24th December 2009, 2:28pm   GlassBeadGame
[quote name='Malleus' post='211553' date='Thu 24t... Thu 24th December 2009, 6:23pm    EricBarbour [quote name='Malleus' post='211553' date='Thu 24th... Sun 27th December 2009, 9:27am  A Horse With No Name
Coren is a disgrace.
I think he is aware of tha... Thu 24th December 2009, 5:26pm   Malleus
Coren is a disgrace.
I think he is aware of th... Thu 24th December 2009, 5:47pm radek
Yep, Giano gets favorable treatment alright...
... Thu 24th December 2009, 8:17pm  RDH(Ghost In The Machine)
Yep, Giano gets favorable treatment alright...... Sat 26th December 2009, 6:59pm   jayvdb
...What, aside from his own personal crusade agai... Sun 27th December 2009, 8:40am    The Joy
[quote name='RDH(Ghost In The Machine)' p... Sun 27th December 2009, 9:06am     everyking
With some defense to Arbitrators, how can you hav... Sun 27th December 2009, 9:11am     jayvdb
With some defense to Arbitrators, how can you hav... Sun 27th December 2009, 10:48am      Malleus
With some defense to Arbitrators, how can you ha... Sun 27th December 2009, 3:36pm     CharlotteWebb
Even on a slow day with no new cases, amendments,... Sun 27th December 2009, 8:39pm      Lar
Even on a slow day with no new cases, amendments... Sun 27th December 2009, 9:51pm       radek
[quote name='CharlotteWebb' post='212014' date='S... Sun 27th December 2009, 11:32pm   radek
Hmm, yes, I generally agree with this. Wed 30th December 2009, 8:52am Kelly Martin Coren was reelected because he has a strong lobby ... Sun 27th December 2009, 10:55am RDH(Ghost In The Machine)
Coren was reelected because he has a strong lobby... Tue 29th December 2009, 12:34am
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