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rockyBarton
post Tue 22nd December 2009, 5:06pm
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I have had a few encounters with an admin named Cirt who struck me as really territorial about certain articles. Curious, I did a Google search "Cirt wikipedia" and came up with several threads on this board. After having read them and I am shocked at the history of this editor and left wondering how someone like this can be an adminstrator.

Cirt edits more than 18 hours a day and 7 days a week to boot. How can anyone do that?

Given the number of hours Cirt edits and their anti-cult agenda, has anyone ever been suspicious that they are paid, or that the account is used by more than one person?

Doesn't Wikipedia have rules against this kind of thing?

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Cults are like drug dealers. It is relatively quick and easy to rise up the ranks and it needs to be because burn out and atrophy is intense.

A gifted 20 odd year old could easily find themselves in a position near to or beside the cult elite ... even if it might take them a little bit longer and leaving to work out what was going on as they lack alternative 'real life' experience. A bit like a large proportion of Wikipedians, it seems.

It is only after they gain that alternative 'real life' experience that they can then make and judge the cult experience and see it for what it was. Of course, the cults try and stop individuals from gaining that.

The Church of Scientology has very obviously, by their own actions, loaded the entirely 'society versus "the cults"' discussion so as to make it almost impossible to have. Which is perhaps what they wanted.

The same kind of thing goes on on the Wikipedia all the time. If it not possible to seed doubt to disarm an exposé, then sub-consciously even, they seek to make discussion impossible.

If the Church of Scientology are the embodiment of the "masculine form" of cult activity, i.e. hard, aggressive, dominant; the Brahma Kumaris are the equal and opposite but same, the "feminine embodiment" of the cultic principle. And the same kind of dynamics are going on. I believe Cirt, in a previous incarnation, also had a minor dabble in that cult war but left it as 'a bridge too far' in wider society's defence against cultic encroachment on its commonwealth.

I can understand why someone might be motivated to defend society from the encroachment of cultic memes into the realm of common understanding.

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This guy is really aggressive. My guess is that he was trained by Scientology in the tactics of intimidation by litigation.
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QUOTE(pietkuip @ Sat 27th March 2010, 10:50pm) *
This guy is really aggressive. My guess is that he was trained by Scientology in the tactics of intimidation by litigation.

Nah, it was Sai Baba he was into.

But, as they say, there is always the risk that fighting monsters turns you into one.

Piet versus Cirt, or Cirt versus Piet (I dont know which it is) here.

I would not put it past Scientologists, or other cultists, to accuse cult awareness activist of being cultists or even Scientologists. Yes, folks, it gets that confusing.

The business of Scientology seems to have rightly earned status of modern folk devils.

There are alternatives even for Scientologists, like being nice to your neighbors and privately practising Freezone Scientology ...

Would not it be the American thing to do to formally separate the Wikipedia from Religion?


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rockyBarton   What is Cirt's Deal?   Tue 22nd December 2009, 5:06pm
Kelly Martin   Probably just someone who is living off of unearne...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 5:09pm
rockyBarton   Probably just someone who is living off of unearn...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 5:29pm
Nerd   I think it totally describes Cirt. Look at this ...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 5:32pm
rockyBarton   [quote name='rockyBarton' post='211254' date='Tue...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 5:48pm
A Horse With No Name   I guest what I think is wrong is that they can ha...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 5:51pm
thekohser   Say, does anyone know who Cirt is off-Wiki? :rol...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 8:17pm
Nerd   Look at how active they are. http://toolserver.o...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 6:37pm
Friday   They have blocked editors more than 4000 times an...   Wed 23rd December 2009, 5:44pm
rockyBarton   They have blocked editors more than 4000 times a...   Mon 28th December 2009, 3:52pm
thekohser   ...when (sic) say such blatently (sic) hostile th...   Mon 28th December 2009, 5:01pm
Nerd   ...when (sic) say such blatently (sic) hostile t...   Mon 28th December 2009, 6:01pm
Somey   He did say "Wow, you're an idiot" th...   Mon 28th December 2009, 6:22pm
A Horse With No Name   I have had a few encounters with an admin named C...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 5:24pm
carbuncle   [quote name='rockyBarton' post='211243' date='Tue...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 5:42pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   Cirt edits more than 18 hours a day and 7 days a w...   Wed 23rd December 2009, 8:26am
Nerd   Cirt edits more than 18 hours a day and 7 days a ...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 5:29pm
Somey   Given the number of hours Cirt edits and their ant...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 5:44pm
rockyBarton   Given the number of hours Cirt edits and their an...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 5:56pm
A Horse With No Name   I don't have a horse in that race. What a...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 6:10pm
Somey   I don't have a horse in that race. I was at ...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 6:49pm
A Horse With No Name   The [wparticle]Corbin Fisher article is more conce...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 7:18pm
Somey   My cash goes into the bet that Cirt is being well-...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 7:25pm
A Horse With No Name   My cash goes into the bet that Cirt is being well...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 7:37pm
Somey   In reading his articles, it is obvious that Cirt i...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 7:43pm
Krimpet   Agreed; these articles definitely go beyond mere ...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 8:57pm
Random832   Thank the good Lord for Baconnaise and Baconnaise ...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 10:06pm
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carbuncle   My cash goes into the bet that Cirt is being well...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 7:40pm
Cedric   Either way, it's dicey - that appears to be t...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 7:52pm
SB_Johnny   you can't deny the basic fact that everything...   Tue 22nd December 2009, 8:54pm
rockyBarton   I don't have a horse in that race. I was at...   Wed 23rd December 2009, 12:40am
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A Horse With No Name   [quote name='Friday' post='211458' date='Wed 23r...   Wed 23rd December 2009, 6:43pm
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