Jimbo's new website, Civilination.org promises new finger-waggling, scolding features Options

[dtobias]

My comment is still "awaiting moderation" too:

I was called an “obsessive trolling idiot” by a powerful administrator on a popular website because I took a stand against attempts by that administrator and his friends to suppress criticism of the site.

Only two comments have actually been approved, one from somebody named Jimmy who's openly gay and has been gay-bashed (obviously not Wales, since his known sleeping-around has been purely heterosexual), and somebody named Linda praising the WSJ article.

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[RDH(Ghost In The Machine)]

So this is Whimbo's answer to incivility-the creation of virtual "gated communities" where a faux facade of civility is selectively enforced.
I personally would rather live in Bartertown than in his pathetic attempt to create a Galttown online.

Really Jimmy, please clean up the dump in your own yard before trying to tell others how to keep theirs!

[Piperdown]

Wasn't "Jimmy" Wales the guy who once uttered "shoot on sight" in the WP Wagon Circling around Gary Weiss's victim act?

Yup.

So much for civility. Once a putz always a putz.

[wikademia.org]

So this is Whimbo's answer to incivility-the creation of virtual "gated communities" where a faux facade of civility is selectively enforced.
I personally would rather live in Bartertown than in his pathetic attempt to create a Galttown online.

Really Jimmy, please clean up the dump in your own yard before trying to tell others how to keep theirs!

interesting you point this out...

one thing that really i wonder about is /culture/.... maybe this is their norm.... maybe this is what they are used to... what a shame to be reared that way though, maybe. hrphh.. ... maybe all that /is/ culturally /acceptable/ to them... maybe that is what they are used to and they don't know any better.... but ya... if it is culture, or even if it is not.. then it is sort of like a /gated/ community as you say.... and perhaps there is a faux facade... i dunno. hrrph.

[Somey]

Only two comments have actually been approved, one from somebody named Jimmy who's openly gay and has been gay-bashed (obviously not Wales, since his known sleeping-around has been purely heterosexual), and somebody named Linda praising the WSJ article.

It's odd, because Ms. Weckerle doesn't moderate the comments on her personal site, though she claims to do so.

This is currently what's on her Policy Page:

• Feel free to post your thoughts and feedback. You may question or debate this blog’s content or comments, but be civil and productive in doing so.
• Use your real name. This blog’s posts are written under a real name, and commenters are expected to provide their real names as well.
• Anonymous comments won’t be accepted.
• Comments that contain insults, rude or offensive or abusive language, threats, or are personal attacks on someone’s character, are not permitted. This is a moderated site and comments that fall outside these parameters will not be published.
• Anyone who violates this Comments Policy may be blocked from future commenting on this blog.

This page is itself a blog entry, so people are allowed to comment on it. Here's the sole comment for the "Policy" entry, dated May 11, 2009:

I have just found this great forum with the subject on the organic farming.
http://www.organic-farming.org
Great ways to eat only good and healthy food. To prepere yourself for upcoming years of hunger.
http://www.organic-farming.org

There are arround 1000 members and 10000 of threads for you to read and participate in most likely one of the biggest problems on earth!
http://www.organic-farming.org

Admittedly, WR's own blog isn't maintained as well as it should be, but at least we took the trouble to install Akismet? Compared to spam, incivility is a trifling problem on the internets, and you'll find very few people willing to argue against that assertion.

[tarantino]

Jimmy and Andrea apparently met in October 2007 when she interviewed him in San Francisco.

Here's a photo of them sharing a quiet dinner at Eve's in October 2008.

[thekohser]

Angela, you are a worthless coward. Happy new year to you and that weasel you work with at Wikia.

Greg, this kind of comment is uncalled for. I think you should apologize to her. She's neither worthless or a coward.

Why do you come to her defense? I am willing to discuss her removal of my freely-licensed content from the website where my contribution was expressly requested. I will discuss it on Wikia, or on Wikipedia Review. Where is she?

[TungstenCarbide]

Angela, you are a worthless coward. Happy new year to you and that weasel you work with at Wikia.

Greg, this kind of comment is uncalled for. I think you should apologize to her. She's neither worthless or a coward.

Why do you come to her defense? I am willing to discuss her removal of my freely-licensed content from the website where my contribution was expressly requested. I will discuss it on Wikia, or on Wikipedia Review. Where is she?

This site can't be taken seriously if the things people say here are wrong. Angela is no coward and she's not worthless. You're wrong, Greg, and your comments were uncalled for. She didn't do anything to merit that type of nastiness. You should apologize to her.

[Somey]

This site can't be taken seriously if the things people say here are wrong. Angela is no coward and she's not worthless.

Angela Beesley is a courageous warrior for the cause of freedom (assuming that by "freedom," we mean the freedom of websites all over the world to operate without the participation of Gregory Kohs).

Of course, I should note that back in 2001, Bill Maher got fired from ABC for saying that it "took a lot of guts" for the 9/11 terrorists to fly airplanes into skyscrapers, and that this was said in response to people who referred to the terrorists as "cowards."

I'm a coward too, but at least I admit it!

[thekohser]

Angela, you are a worthless coward. Happy new year to you and that weasel you work with at Wikia. I am sorry for saying that about you, Angela. It was an overreaction to your deleting something that I had spent considerable time working on. Your repeated removal of legitimate content on a website that requested just these types of contributions strikes me as a somewhat cowardly action by an otherwise delightful person. Happy new year to you, and good luck working with Jimmy Wales, even though I have found him to exhibit behaviors that place him in the realm of "the weasel" on the animal personality test.

Greg, this kind of comment is uncalled for. I think you should apologize to her. She's neither worthless or a coward.

Why do you come to her defense? I am willing to discuss her removal of my freely-licensed content from the website where my contribution was expressly requested. I will discuss it on Wikia, or on Wikipedia Review. Where is she?

This site can't be taken seriously if the things people say here are wrong. Angela is no coward and she's not worthless. You're wrong, Greg, and your comments were uncalled for. She didn't do anything to merit that type of nastiness. You should apologize to her.

There, how's that?

[GlassBeadGame]

Jimmy and Andrea apparently met in October 2007 when she interviewed him in San Francisco.

Here's a photo of them sharing a quiet dinner at Eve's in October 2008.

That's the kind of photo wives get pissed about.

[Jon Awbrey]

Jimmy Wales Gives Advice to Companies Who Feel Their Wikipedia Entry is Biased



Fabulous dinner in the tasting room

I'm guessing the "advice" goes a bit like this —

"You want NPOV™? — Send me something Tasty!"

[thekohser]

That's the kind of photo wives get pissed about.

At least six months after the affair with Marsden? I hardly think Christine would be more than just a smidgen more miffed about her ex/separated/consider-myself-single(?)-husband by this photo.

[TungstenCarbide]

This site can't be taken seriously if the things people say here are wrong. Angela is no coward and she's not worthless.

Angela Beesley is a courageous warrior for the cause of freedom (assuming that by "freedom," we mean the freedom of websites all over the world to operate without the participation of Gregory Kohs).

Of course, I should note that back in 2001, Bill Maher got fired from ABC for saying that it "took a lot of guts" for the 9/11 terrorists to fly airplanes into skyscrapers, and that this was said in response to people who referred to the terrorists as "cowards."

I'm a coward too, but at least I admit it!

I used to be a coward too, and eager to please, and overly nice. But forty years of abuse and harassment fixed me right up. Hey look, I have no problem with two skunks getting into a pissing match - it's a recreation I partake of myself on occasion. But meeting Angela's finger wagging with a sledge hammer doesn't do this site or Kohs' cause any favors.

There, how's that?

thanks

[thekohser]

Since our two-cents-worth doesn't seem to be registering with either CiviliNation.org's message board, or with the corresponding Wikia wiki, I decided to make my two-cents-worth financial contribution to CiviliNation, via PayPal.

I phoned up the contact number that appeared in the PayPal receipt. It went to voicemail, saying, "I'm not available to take your call at this time", then the automated prompt noted, "This user's mailbox is full. No messages may be left at this time". I tried one more time to call, and I got a female who answered, "Hello?" I asked, "Hello, is this CiviliNation?"

Pause.

Click.

I'm glad my $0.02 is going to such a good cause!

[Piperdown]

I phoned up the contact number that appeared in the PayPal receipt. It went to voicemail, saying, "I'm not available to take your call at this time", then the automated prompt noted, "This user's mailbox is full. No messages may be left at this time". I tried one more time to call, and I got a female who answered, "Hello?" I asked, "Hello, is this CiviliNation?"

Pause.

Click.

How un-civil.

[Somey]

I'll admit we've already discussed this whole silly business to death, but I just checked, and apparently both "civilinternet.org" and "civilplanet.org" are available domain names. Why not go with one of those, instead of "civilination.org," a not-so-clever pun on "civilization"? Are Andrea and Jimbo being US-centric in some way by deriving from the word "nation"?

[MBisanz]

Since our two-cents-worth doesn't seem to be registering with either CiviliNation.org's message board, or with the corresponding Wikia wiki, I decided to make my two-cents-worth financial contribution to CiviliNation, via PayPal.

I phoned up the contact number that appeared in the PayPal receipt. It went to voicemail, saying, "I'm not available to take your call at this time", then the automated prompt noted, "This user's mailbox is full. No messages may be left at this time". I tried one more time to call, and I got a female who answered, "Hello?" I asked, "Hello, is this CiviliNation?"

Pause.

Click.

I'm glad my $0.02 is going to such a good cause!

Please tell me you at least first tried a reverse whitepages on it...

[EricBarbour]

Gee, this thread is getting more traffic than Civilination itself.....

[thekohser]

Please tell me you at least first tried a reverse whitepages on it...

I didn't, but now I just did. It resolves to an unlisted Richmond, VA cellular number.

Andrea Weckerle's biography:

Prior to joining Livingston Communications, Weckerle owned her own boutique communications agency and also worked in management and legal consulting positions with Ernst & Young, LLP. She has a Masters in Conflict Analysis & Resolution/ PR from George Mason University and a Juris Doctor from the University of Richmond's T.C. Williams School of Law.

This post has been edited by thekohser: Mon 4th January 2010, 2:02am