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post Fri 8th January 2010, 4:48am
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Can anyone recommend any sites that show step by step how to set up your own wiki encyclopaedia?
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post Fri 8th January 2010, 5:28am
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you do know about Encyc.org, right?!
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post Fri 8th January 2010, 9:14am
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you do know about Encyc.org, right?!


I don't think Encyc.org will challenge wikipedia anytime soon. All their articles are basically one to two sentence stubs.
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post Fri 8th January 2010, 3:14pm
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QUOTE(WikiWatch @ Fri 8th January 2010, 4:14am) *

I don't think Encyc.org will challenge wikipedia anytime soon. All their articles are basically one to two sentence stubs.


WikiWatch, who are you? (If you're disclosing.)

What are you trying to accomplish? Trying to challenge Wikipedia with an alternate venue? Do you have at least $1,000,000? Because those are the bare minimum table stakes to create a site that will get into the Alexa 1000.

What is your unique proposition that will make your site a challenge to Wikipedia?

On my site, I dreamed optimistically that editors' "ownership" of articles about yourself or your business, plus transitory ownership of articles about other legal entities, coupled with the ability to earn AdSense revenues (keeping 100% of them for themselves), topped off with the wonders of Semantic Web architecture for search engine optimization and internal multi-layered search capabilities, would have me at 3% of Wikipedia's market share within two years.

Well, after two years, my site earns 0.000856% of the English Wikipedia's page traffic, as the 37,789th most visited site on the Internet, among Americans.

Although (according to Alexa), my site has a wider global reach than the web home of the Brazilian government (brasil.gov.br), as well as the home page of the 10th largest company in America (Valero.com).

So, while you're pooh-poohing Encyc.org, let me just say that your asking how to install wiki software suggests to me that you likewise don't have what it takes to "challenge Wikipedia anytime soon".

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post Sun 14th March 2010, 12:28am
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 8th January 2010, 3:14pm) *

Well, after two years, my site earns 0.000856% of the English Wikipedia's page traffic, as the 37,789th most visited site on the Internet, among Americans.


Ha, did you know you're more popular than Citizendium?
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post Sun 14th March 2010, 4:02am
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 8th January 2010, 3:14pm) *

Well, after two years, my site earns 0.000856% of the English Wikipedia's page traffic, as the 37,789th most visited site on the Internet, among Americans.


Ha, did you know you're more popular than Citizendium?


In the United States, and according to Alexa... wow, I guess that's true.
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post Sun 14th March 2010, 9:21am
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Sun 14th March 2010, 4:02am) *

QUOTE(anthony @ Sat 13th March 2010, 7:28pm) *

QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 8th January 2010, 3:14pm) *

Well, after two years, my site earns 0.000856% of the English Wikipedia's page traffic, as the 37,789th most visited site on the Internet, among Americans.


Ha, did you know you're more popular than Citizendium?


In the United States, and according to Alexa... wow, I guess that's true.

You're still behind Boobpedia in both the worldwide and US traffic rankings, though.
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post Sun 14th March 2010, 11:07pm
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Emperor,

Your Wiki seems to suffer from some of the same ills as Wikipedia: dweeb admins like Nathan running around pushing buttons willy nilly.

It also appears to be an experiment in social media rather than an earnest attempt at encyclopedia building...?

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post Sun 14th March 2010, 11:46pm
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QUOTE(DawnofMan @ Sun 14th March 2010, 7:07pm) *

Emperor,

Your Wiki seems to suffer from some of the same ills as Wikipedia: dweeb admins like Nathan running around pushing buttons willy nilly.

It also appear to be an experiment in social media rather than an earnest attempt at encyclopedia building?


Nathan used to be a moderator here on Wikipedia Review. He's also a great administrator, and has donated significant amounts of time towards making Encyc a better place.

If your referring to his block and then unblock of ChildofMidnight, it looks like they're talking it out.
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post Mon 15th March 2010, 1:01am
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QUOTE(Emperor @ Sun 14th March 2010, 4:46pm) *

QUOTE(DawnofMan @ Sun 14th March 2010, 7:07pm) *

Emperor,

Your Wiki seems to suffer from some of the same ills as Wikipedia: dweeb admins like Nathan running around pushing buttons willy nilly.

It also appear to be an experiment in social media rather than an earnest attempt at encyclopedia building?


Nathan used to be a moderator here on Wikipedia Review. He's also a great administrator, and has donated significant amounts of time towards making Encyc a better place.

If your referring to his block and then unblock of ChildofMidnight, it looks like they're talking it out.


If your idea of a great admin is someone who blocks a new editor without any explanation or discussion and then improperly reverts a series of constructive changes, all I can say is: it's not too surprising that your Wiki isn't exactly prospering. I don't see any evidence that Nathan has made an effort to "talk out" anything. He certainly hasn't attempted to make an apology for behaving like a boob.

I do see that you're aware of the situation and have chosen to offer the proverbial tea instead of attempting to engage in adult communication or explanation. Perhaps respectful discussion among colleagues is too much to ask in this internet age? I'm not seeing any effort at real change, just more of the same. Why create a mirror Wikipedia?

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WikiWatch   Setting up your own wiki encyclopaedia   Fri 8th January 2010, 4:48am
wikademia.org   sure! great question! http://www.mediaw...   Fri 8th January 2010, 5:17am
wikademia.org   you do know about Encyc.org, right?!   Fri 8th January 2010, 5:28am
WikiWatch   you do know about Encyc.org, right?! Yes, t...   Fri 8th January 2010, 5:35am
Emperor   [quote name='wikademia.org' post='214331' date='F...   Fri 8th January 2010, 12:53pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   MediaWiki installation is not user-friendly at all...   Fri 8th January 2010, 2:16pm
CharlotteWebb   Installation is fairly easy. Choosing a catchy dom...   Fri 8th January 2010, 5:42pm
DawnofMan   Would someone just hurry up and create an alternat...   Sun 14th March 2010, 12:53am
Emperor   Would someone just hurry up and create an alterna...   Sun 14th March 2010, 3:03am
BelovedFox   [quote name='DawnofMan' post='226036' date='Sat 1...   Sun 14th March 2010, 3:44am
Emperor   [quote name='DawnofMan' post='226036' date='Sat ...   Sun 14th March 2010, 3:01pm
KD Tries Again   Would someone just hurry up and create an altern...   Sun 14th March 2010, 5:26am
thekohser   I don't like the citizendium model and am not...   Sun 14th March 2010, 3:29pm
anthony   [quote name='DawnofMan' post='226036' date='Sat 1...   Sun 14th March 2010, 5:33pm
Emperor   If your idea of a great admin is someone who bloc...   Mon 15th March 2010, 2:52am
WikiWatch   I would like to thank Dan Tobias, Gregory Kohs, an...   Sat 24th April 2010, 7:42am
WikiWatch   Looks like Encyc has been swamped with vandals: h...   Wed 5th May 2010, 3:34pm
Emperor   I'm still quite fond of PmWiki. It's a ni...   Sat 9th January 2010, 4:13am
WikiWatch   Anyone recommend a decent web hosting service?   Fri 12th March 2010, 3:40am
dtobias   Dreamhost has built-in installations of MediaWiki ...   Fri 12th March 2010, 4:08am
WikiWatch   Dreamhost has built-in installations of MediaWiki...   Fri 12th March 2010, 4:35am
MZMcBride   There are a very large number of considerations to...   Fri 12th March 2010, 4:56am
WikiWatch   There are a very large number of considerations t...   Sat 13th March 2010, 12:26am
John Limey   [quote name='MZMcBride' post='225765' date='Fri 1...   Sat 13th March 2010, 12:41am
Milton Roe   [quote name='WikiWatch' post='225885' date='Sat 1...   Sat 13th March 2010, 1:25am
MZMcBride   [quote name='WikiWatch' post='225885' date='Sat 1...   Sat 13th March 2010, 2:43am
WikiWatch   Eventually, a moderately successful rival to Wiki...   Sun 14th March 2010, 9:16am
WikiWatch   I'd like to shamelessly promote my own though...   Sat 13th March 2010, 9:10am
John Limey   [quote name='John Limey' post='225888' date='Sat ...   Sat 13th March 2010, 10:31am
thekohser   Who the f*ck are you, "DawnOfMan"? Look...   Mon 15th March 2010, 2:22am


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