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anthony
post Thu 28th January 2010, 9:27pm
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So who is this Danese Cooper? I see that David Gerard created her BLP in 2005. On that point alone I'm skeptical.
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post Tue 7th June 2011, 9:16pm
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I doubt we'll ever know for certain, though Ms. Cooper could conceivably start blogging again (she stopped just before joining the WMF) and drop a hint or two. If I had to guess, I'd say it was her idea, not theirs - she probably got frustrated with being, for all intents and purposes, a glorified bandwidth optimizer and patch installer (applyer?), which wouldn't have been what she signed up for.

What she didn't stop doing (after being hired as the WMF CTO) was tweeting. At least half of her Twitter feed is about bandwidth and server problems being fixed, another 30 percent is her announcing her arrival at various airports, and the rest is just links to various OSS articles that (mostly) have little relevance to WP.

It was broadly hinted at here on WR 70 weeks ago (by K. Martin, myself, and others) that if her job was mostly going to consist of sticking band-aids on wounded servers, she wasn't a good choice for it and she wasn't going to be happy doing it. I'd say the victim here, if there is one, is probably Cooper herself. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that her job interview with the WMF board consisted of them reassuring her that she wasn't going to have to do any of the down-and-dirty stuff, and that she'd instead be concentrating on "high-level strategic technology planning" and various other things that the WMF has never cared about one iota.

If they were realistic about the nature of their organization, the WMF would give the CTO job to Brion Vibber and give him a nice big raise along with it. But they never have been, and in any event, Erik Moeller probably wouldn't stand for it.
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post Tue 7th June 2011, 11:55pm
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QUOTE(Somey @ Tue 7th June 2011, 9:16pm) *

I doubt we'll ever know for certain, though Ms. Cooper could conceivably start blogging again (she stopped just before joining the WMF) and drop a hint or two. If I had to guess, I'd say it was her idea, not theirs - she probably got frustrated with being, for all intents and purposes, a glorified bandwidth optimizer and patch installer (applyer?), which wouldn't have been what she signed up for.

What she didn't stop doing (after being hired as the WMF CTO) was tweeting. At least half of her Twitter feed is about bandwidth and server problems being fixed, another 30 percent is her announcing her arrival at various airports, and the rest is just links to various OSS articles that (mostly) have little relevance to WP.

It was broadly hinted at here on WR 70 weeks ago (by K. Martin, myself, and others) that if her job was mostly going to consist of sticking band-aids on wounded servers, she wasn't a good choice for it and she wasn't going to be happy doing it. I'd say the victim here, if there is one, is probably Cooper herself. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that her job interview with the WMF board consisted of them reassuring her that she wasn't going to have to do any of the down-and-dirty stuff, and that she'd instead be concentrating on "high-level strategic technology planning" and various other things that the WMF has never cared about one iota.

If they were realistic about the nature of their organization, the WMF would give the CTO job to Brion Vibber and give him a nice big raise along with it. But they never have been, and in any event, Erik Moeller probably wouldn't stand for it.


And unfortunately, this is one reason why Wikipedia hasn't really exploited its technical potential yet--it's being directed by non-tech people. People like Brion Vibber, who know MediaWiki in-and-out, should be the ones making the technical decisions--not Sue or Erik, to say the least. Sue is nothing more than a ruthless businesswoman--but when she dictates the WMF's tech directions, it usually ends up as nothing very special. The CTO could be responsible for so much more, given that the WMF has relatively few employees anyway but they have an enormous collection of tech and server stuff.
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post Wed 8th June 2011, 4:32am
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QUOTE(melloden @ Tue 7th June 2011, 6:55pm) *
And unfortunately, this is one reason why Wikipedia hasn't really exploited its technical potential yet--it's being directed by non-tech people. People like Brion Vibber, who know MediaWiki in-and-out, should be the ones making the technical decisions--not Sue or Erik, to say the least. Sue is nothing more than a ruthless businesswoman--but when she dictates the WMF's tech directions, it usually ends up as nothing very special. The CTO could be responsible for so much more, given that the WMF has relatively few employees anyway but they have an enormous collection of tech and server stuff.
Spoken by someone who clearly knows absolutely nothing about technology in business. You don't want your techies making decisions about how to use technology in your business, because they'll just pick whatever technology they think is the coolest, whether or not it's the most efficient way to facilitate your business processes. The role of the CTO is to find efficient ways to facilitate business processes with technology. Brion is demonstrably unable to fill this role; as are both Sue and Erik, but all of them for different reasons.

What I'm wondering about is what Brion will do now that Danese is gone and he's back to reporting to Erik. Will he leave again?
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anthony   Open Source Diva named CTO   Thu 28th January 2010, 9:27pm
Zoloft   That BLP is very different today. It links to her ...   Thu 28th January 2010, 11:44pm
anthony   That BLP is very different today. It links to her...   Fri 29th January 2010, 2:27am
Alison   That BLP is very different today. It links to her...   Sat 30th January 2010, 5:45am
Krimpet   And hey - she's a Mac gal ;) The Open Sourc...   Sat 30th January 2010, 6:14am
Alison   [quote name='Alison' post='218736' date='Sat 30th...   Sat 30th January 2010, 6:18am
Krimpet   Smartypants!! :lol: * [url=http://publi...   Sat 30th January 2010, 6:43am
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='Alison' post='218741' date='Sat 30th...   Sat 30th January 2010, 5:22pm
Lar   And hey - she's a Mac gal ;) Nobody's p...   Sat 30th January 2010, 4:26pm
Zoloft   ... She's had a long tech career, appears to ...   Tue 7th June 2011, 10:16am
thekohser   She looks like a Napa Valley "real estate age...   Fri 29th January 2010, 2:17am
TungstenCarbide   She looks like a Napa Valley "real estate ag...   Fri 29th January 2010, 2:50am
Milton Roe   She looks like a Napa Valley "real estate a...   Fri 29th January 2010, 3:44am
Somey   Seems to me they need someone whose OSS background...   Fri 29th January 2010, 7:35am
dogbiscuit   Seems to me they need someone whose OSS backgroun...   Fri 29th January 2010, 8:41am
Somey   I'm confused, wasn't Erik chosen as the Go...   Fri 29th January 2010, 9:20am
GlassBeadGame   I'm confused, wasn't Erik chosen as the G...   Fri 29th January 2010, 2:15pm
Jon Awbrey   I think the CTO has quite a challenge ahead. It c...   Fri 29th January 2010, 2:28pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   Social entropy typical of big time voluntary secto...   Fri 29th January 2010, 3:29pm
TungstenCarbide   [quote name='Somey' post='218584' date='Fri 29th ...   Fri 29th January 2010, 3:40pm
Kelly Martin   I'm confused, wasn't Erik chosen as the Go...   Fri 29th January 2010, 4:20pm
anthony   From the standpoint of her role as a CTO, I don...   Sat 30th January 2010, 1:33am
Kelly Martin   [quote name='Kelly Martin' post='218637' date='Fr...   Sat 30th January 2010, 4:10am
thekohser   Seems to me they need someone whose OSS backgroun...   Wed 23rd February 2011, 3:42am
Somey   Whoa, thread necromancy. For this job, you want a...   Wed 23rd February 2011, 4:26am
Jon Awbrey   Rather, she should take every possible opportunit...   Wed 23rd February 2011, 4:38am
thekohser   Anyway, it's always best to give people a cha...   Tue 7th June 2011, 5:05am
Jon Awbrey   So who is this Danese Cooper? I think she's...   Sat 30th January 2010, 5:48pm
CharlotteWebb   I think she's related to [url=http://12.media...   Sat 30th January 2010, 7:21pm
Milton Roe   I think she's related to [url=http://12.medi...   Sat 30th January 2010, 7:33pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   Just as an aside, I have to guess she is damned gr...   Sat 30th January 2010, 11:12pm
CharlotteWebb   That D.B. actually never had a middle initial (th...   Sat 30th January 2010, 11:21pm
Zoloft   Editing Madeleine_(cake): No sooner had I clicked ...   Wed 23rd February 2011, 4:44am
It's the blimp, Frank   Editing Madeleine_(cake): No sooner had I clicked...   Tue 8th March 2011, 4:16am
Zoloft   [quote name='Zoloft' post='269165' date='Wed 23rd...   Tue 8th March 2011, 5:38am
Somey   Mmm, cake! rfuupnlVLvs   Wed 23rd February 2011, 4:58am
thekohser   I wonder if the fact that Brion Vibber is being re...   Tue 8th March 2011, 3:57am
Alison   I wonder if the fact that Brion Vibber is being r...   Tue 8th March 2011, 4:04am
Somey   ... or a little bit of neither? Let's be fair ...   Tue 8th March 2011, 7:24am
Kelly Martin   That's not to say there wouldn't be some d...   Tue 8th March 2011, 12:30pm
Cla68   I actually agree with Ms. Martin about why Brion...   Wed 9th March 2011, 10:57pm
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thekohser   Hey! I found their Disaster Recovery Plan...   Thu 10th March 2011, 1:21am
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Cla68   One cluster is in Tampa, Florida and the other is...   Thu 10th March 2011, 1:44am
Kelly Martin   Are they doing complete daily data dumps between t...   Thu 10th March 2011, 4:34am
Cla68   Are they doing complete daily data dumps between ...   Thu 10th March 2011, 11:08pm
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Kelly Martin   It isn't as unusual as one might think for a c...   Fri 11th March 2011, 12:41pm
thekohser   I've seen prominent Wikimedians comment that ...   Fri 11th March 2011, 1:58pm
Gruntled   One cluster is in Tampa, Florida and the other is ...   Thu 10th March 2011, 6:05pm
anthony   One cluster is in Tampa, Florida and the other is...   Thu 10th March 2011, 6:13pm
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anthony   Because I find it amazing that to my knowledge, n...   Fri 11th March 2011, 1:59pm
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gomi   Does anyone want this disaster recovery/server con...   Thu 10th March 2011, 6:36pm
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