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post Tue 23rd February 2010, 3:25am
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In all its glory.

This is a fairly mild proposal, not a whole lot less cumbersome than taking an admin to RfAr, and the biggest argument against it, in my opinion, is that it might be almost useless, but it is not worse than the status quo, and might be better, and might be improved on review, which is built into the proposal, so I supported it after some thought, even though there are aspects that are inadequate.

The arguments against are featured prominently at the top of the RfC, authored by TenOfAllTrades, who has provided plenty of reason, in the past, that someone might want him removed. Right now, Oppose votes are leading, with many of them based on an impression that There Is Nothing Wrong, Everything Is Peachy Keen, I've Not Encountered Any Rogue Administrators, So If It Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It.

Which is probably true for most Wikipedia editors. Until they do encounter one or a few.

I just thought it was odd that this wasn't being discussed here, given, etc., etc.
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post Sun 28th February 2010, 6:19am
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I think every active administrator should have to stand for reconfirmation once per year, on a staggered basis. The reconfirmation RFAs would have a lower threshold, given that an active administrator makes a few enemies, but would still be required to get 50%+1 to be reconfirmed. I can think of numerous current admins that wouldn't even be able to meet THAT low standard. Also, every administrator account that goes inactive for more than a month should be auto-deadminned.
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post Sun 28th February 2010, 6:44am
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QUOTE(SDJ @ Sun 28th February 2010, 7:19am) *

I think every active administrator should have to stand for reconfirmation once per year, on a staggered basis. The reconfirmation RFAs would have a lower threshold, given that an active administrator makes a few enemies, but would still be required to get 50%+1 to be reconfirmed. I can think of numerous current admins that wouldn't even be able to meet THAT low standard. Also, every administrator account that goes inactive for more than a month should be auto-deadminned.


It's a waste of everyone's time to hold reconfirmation votes for the great majority of uncontroversial admins. However, it would be reasonable to expect that any admin in a reconfirmation vote be able to obtain at least a simple majority.

Similarly, it's a lot of unnecessary trouble to desysop every admin account that goes dormant for a month. There is some risk associated with dormant accounts, but it's a relatively low risk. Desysopping accounts that have been dormant for over a year would be reasonable. Proposals like that have come up in the past, but as far as I know they've never been implemented.
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Abd   Community de-adminship RfC enters voting   Tue 23rd February 2010, 3:25am
everyking   Community de-adminship is the basic solution to al...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 4:41am
CharlotteWebb   If participation in the above-described system bec...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 5:57am
everyking   If participation in the above-described system be...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 6:07am
CharlotteWebb   Impossible. I'd be surprised if you could fin...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 6:18am
everyking   Impossible. I'd be surprised if you could fi...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 7:24am
Somey   If participation in the above-described system bec...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 7:06am
Doc glasgow   Community de-adminship is the basic solution to a...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 9:24am
Lar   Would I get de-admined by such a process? Highly ...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 11:46pm
GlassBeadGame   Community de-adminship is the basic solution to a...   Wed 24th February 2010, 2:06pm
Zoloft   Community... deadmin... pigs... flying... frozen.....   Tue 23rd February 2010, 8:49am
victim of censorship   Community... deadmin... pigs... flying... frozen....   Tue 23rd February 2010, 4:24pm
Apathetic   I haven't really reviewed this in great detail...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 5:04pm
RDH(Ghost In The Machine)   I haven't really reviewed this in great detai...   Wed 24th February 2010, 7:51pm
Kevin   The most insightful thing I read there was "W...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 10:14am
Abd   The proposal is not a rigid voting process, and di...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 4:22pm
Jon Awbrey   The basic problem here is common with communities...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 4:22pm
Malleus   I looked at the figures a couple of hours ago and ...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 6:53pm
Doc glasgow   I looked at the figures a couple of hours ago and...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 7:40pm
Malleus   I looked at the figures a couple of hours ago an...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 8:20pm
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='Doc glasgow' post='223114' date='Tue...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 8:28pm
Jon Awbrey   But I agree it is pointless for the real reason. ...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 8:40pm
Doc glasgow   [quote name='Doc glasgow' post='223114' date='Tue...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 8:45pm
Malleus   I will oppose this and it will not be fear of acc...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 8:52pm
radek   Voted against it, partly based on the expectation ...   Wed 24th February 2010, 3:02am
Malleus   I think there's some merit in the "let...   Wed 24th February 2010, 3:10am
Jon Awbrey   I think there's some merit in the "let...   Wed 24th February 2010, 3:38am
Malleus   I think there's some merit in the "let...   Wed 24th February 2010, 3:52am
Jon Awbrey   I think there's some merit in the "let...   Wed 24th February 2010, 4:08am
Jon Awbrey   I will oppose this and it will not be fear of ac...   Wed 24th February 2010, 11:56am
Eva Destruction   It's been pointed out many times here that if...   Wed 24th February 2010, 12:09pm
powercorrupts   It's been pointed out many times here that i...   Wed 24th February 2010, 3:12pm
Jon Awbrey   It's been pointed out many times here that i...   Wed 24th February 2010, 3:44pm
Abd   The point is that the advertised philosophy grossl...   Thu 25th February 2010, 3:47am
Jon Awbrey   The point is that the advertised philosophy gross...   Thu 25th February 2010, 4:10am
Doc glasgow   [quote name='Malleus' post='223129' date='Tue 23r...   Wed 24th February 2010, 2:46pm
Cock-up-over-conspiracy   It's been pointed out many times here that if ...   Wed 24th February 2010, 4:29pm
Jon Awbrey   [quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='223276' date='Wed ...   Wed 24th February 2010, 4:36pm
NuclearWarfare   Malleus, would you like to rerun your check, this ...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 8:52pm
Malleus   Malleus, would you like to rerun your check, this...   Tue 23rd February 2010, 8:55pm
MZMcBride   There's a balance to be struck. And arguably, ...   Wed 24th February 2010, 5:44am
powercorrupts   Nakon has created this script on the CDA results t...   Wed 24th February 2010, 10:43pm
Abd   The poll is intended to run for 28 days - I cant i...   Thu 25th February 2010, 3:21am
Jon Awbrey   The real problem is that the community has no ide...   Thu 25th February 2010, 3:32am
Abd   The real problem is that the community has no idea...   Thu 25th February 2010, 4:12am
Jon Awbrey   [quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='223401' date='Wed ...   Thu 25th February 2010, 4:16am
Abd   [quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='223401' date='Wed 2...   Thu 25th February 2010, 5:40pm
Trick cyclist   Nakon has created this script on the CDA results ...   Thu 25th February 2010, 1:02pm
SB_Johnny   [quote name='powercorrupts' post='223353' date='W...   Thu 25th February 2010, 2:12pm
Eva Destruction   [quote name='powercorrupts' post='223353' date='W...   Fri 26th February 2010, 7:14pm
Malleus   You have myself, Malleus, Johnbod and Mattisse in...   Sat 27th February 2010, 12:41am
EricBarbour   Don't look at me, man. If I had to clean up th...   Thu 25th February 2010, 3:28am
Malleus   Don't look at me, man. If I had to clean up t...   Thu 25th February 2010, 3:51am
Jon Awbrey   Tanks for yet another Abysmally Boring Digression...   Thu 25th February 2010, 5:52pm
Abd   Tanks for yet another [b][font=georgia]Abysmally ...   Fri 26th February 2010, 2:12am
Sxeptomaniac   Jon, many times you have "huffed" about...   Fri 26th February 2010, 6:54pm
Abd   [/quote]Big images, huge type, to mask a total lac...   Fri 26th February 2010, 2:46am
GlassBeadGame   Big images, huge type, to mask a total lack of co...   Fri 26th February 2010, 9:15pm
Jon Awbrey   What a ugly and nasty little rant that say nothin...   Sat 27th February 2010, 4:10am
Sxeptomaniac   I voted, partly as moral support for the idea that...   Thu 25th February 2010, 7:14pm
Jon Awbrey   So, what is the current count on MB socks, anyway?...   Fri 26th February 2010, 2:58am
Somey   So, what is the current count on MB socks, anyway?...   Fri 26th February 2010, 7:26pm
Jon Awbrey   So, what is the current count on MB socks, anywa...   Sat 27th February 2010, 3:38am
Eva Destruction   Oh, so you think that [font=georgia]Another [bots...   Sat 27th February 2010, 10:17am
Jon Awbrey   Abd is Abd ul-Rahman Dennis Lomax (dob 24 May 1944...   Sat 27th February 2010, 2:22pm
Eva Destruction   Oh, the irony.   Sat 27th February 2010, 3:16pm
thekohser   Oh, the irony. awwwWWWWkkk! Sick as a parr...   Sat 27th February 2010, 9:35pm
RMHED   [quote name='Eva Destruction' post='223750' date=...   Sat 27th February 2010, 9:41pm
Backslashforwardslash   That RFC, like all RFC's is an utter waste of...   Sun 28th February 2010, 1:00am
Jon Awbrey   Oh, the irony. [i][color=mediumvioletred][font=...   Sun 28th February 2010, 7:25pm
One   "Awbrey is opposed to consensus" Uh, ye...   Sat 27th February 2010, 9:47pm
Jon Awbrey   "Awbrey is opposed to consensus" Uh, y...   Sat 27th February 2010, 9:56pm
Abd   "Awbrey is opposed to consensus" Uh, ye...   Sun 28th February 2010, 7:43am
BelovedFox   Well, I would have voted in support of the proposa...   Sat 27th February 2010, 10:47pm
SirFozzie   Well, I would have voted in support of the propos...   Sun 28th February 2010, 12:37am
BelovedFox   Well, I would have voted in support of the propo...   Sun 28th February 2010, 3:50am
powercorrupts   [quote name='SirFozzie' post='223839' date='Sun 2...   Sun 28th February 2010, 9:28am
Abd   Believe it or not, written on an iPhone. Long. [qu...   Sun 28th February 2010, 8:25pm
The Joy   Why not just create an Administrator Ethics Commit...   Sun 28th February 2010, 3:53am
SDJ   I think every active administrator should have to ...   Sun 28th February 2010, 6:19am
GlassBeadGame   I think every active administrator should have t...   Sun 28th February 2010, 1:28pm
SDJ   [quote name='everyking' post='223888' date='Sun 2...   Sun 28th February 2010, 2:07pm
everyking   [quote name='everyking' post='223888' date='Sun ...   Sun 28th February 2010, 3:41pm
GlassBeadGame   Well golly, I should change my vote, huh? :rol...   Sun 28th February 2010, 4:07pm
Eva Destruction   I'd have to agree. There's no way I'd...   Sun 28th February 2010, 4:41pm
The Joy   I'd have to agree. There's no way I...   Sun 28th February 2010, 8:04pm
everyking   I'd have to agree. There's no way I...   Mon 1st March 2010, 3:28am
CharlotteWebb   Can you identify which admin actions I've tak...   Mon 1st March 2010, 6:10am
Doc glasgow   Can you identify which admin actions I've ta...   Mon 1st March 2010, 9:22am
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='CharlotteWebb' post='224029' date='M...   Mon 1st March 2010, 2:10pm
everyking   Can you identify which admin actions I've ta...   Mon 1st March 2010, 8:30pm
Doc glasgow   [quote name='CharlotteWebb' post='224029' date='M...   Mon 1st March 2010, 9:09pm
SB_Johnny   The only admins who would fail to get 35% of a vo...   Mon 1st March 2010, 9:47pm
Doc glasgow   The only admins who would fail to get 35% of a v...   Mon 1st March 2010, 10:01pm
taiwopanfob   Similarly, it's a lot of unnecessary trouble t...   Sun 28th February 2010, 2:26pm
SDJ   There are 888 active administrators, and about 900...   Sun 28th February 2010, 6:54am
SB_Johnny   Oppose #87: Nominators need to identify with th...   Sun 28th February 2010, 5:04pm
Eva Destruction   Nobody seems to have mentioned this little attempt...   Sun 28th February 2010, 7:11pm
Malleus   Nobody seems to have mentioned this little attemp...   Sun 28th February 2010, 11:27pm
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