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| WordBomb |
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I'm told that all the recent tinkering with the article autobiography on Gary Weiss has put Weiss himself in a strange place, psychologically. He -- as Mantanmoreland -- has been begging many former allies for intervention and even asked ArbCom -- as Stetsonharry -- to be unbanned. Of course, Stetsonharry was shown the door, but not before expressing his deep, DEEP, red-faced, vein-bulging, scowling disappointment. Apparently it was Huldra's inspired addition of the Wikipuffery category that really set him off. If had a devious side, it might suggest that just a little more improvement of the article (and it could certainly use more than a little improving) would yield some really interesting Weissian fireworks.
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It's still happening. I was presented by email with a link to WordBomb's account of the whole affair, introducing me to the financial wizardry of NSS. I had previously paid little attention to this, just noticing the Mantanmoreland/Samiharris arbitration for its use of meticulously researched statistical evidence, never realizing that this was all necessary because massive and more direct evidence, surely known to Jimbo et al, provided by WordBomb, was suppressed under various excuses. (Whereas actually illegal evidence was cheerfully used in the EEML case.) Realizing that the Wikipedia story might be much darker than the AGF I'd been able to sustain, on the theory that setting up processes for mass consensus (very different from mob rule) was not well-understood, and that the chaos that is Wikipedia was, then, simply natural, I've started to look from a new perspective. That AGF is now disintegrating. The chaos is actively being maintained, because it's far easier to manage and control, where control is "important." Community processes that might eventually lead to broad consensus process were crushed, many times. Looks to me like Gary Weiss just edited, five days ago, Naked short selling. diff.. IP contributions showing multiple proximity to Mantanmoreland (Gary Weiss) establishing substantial presumption. Ban violation. But that's a technicality, what about the substance? Added text by Weiss in bold. QUOTE There has been speculation that naked short selling played a role in driving Lehman Brothers into bankruptcy, but a bankruptcy trustee report on Lehman proved the reports to be wrong. [reference:]"Don't Blame Shorts for Lehman Demise," by Rachel Beck, Associated Press, March 19, 2010 "Short sellers didn't bring down Lehman; company squashed itself through risk."The added text is deceptive, not confirmed by source. The source is referring to short selling, not naked short selling. Short selling is quite legitimate. Naked short selling amplifies the effect of short selling, with practically no limit. The trustee report is not cited as addressing naked short selling at all. The edit is blatant POV-pushing, as I immediately saw before looking at the source, because of the telltale word "proved." Quack!I'd revert the edit, and I'm under no ban to prevent me, except that my friends at ArbComm have, shall we say, "suggested" that I avoid all controversy. Sorry, friends, but I see blatant disregard of NPOV policy all the time, I'd have to stop looking at Wikipedia and what's related, entirely, and it's entirely too frustrating to see stuff clearly that is damaging the project and say nothing. I have no prior involvement here at all, but, having read the devastatingly deep research done by WordBomb, I do now have a POV, pending any kind of refutation based on, er, evidence. Pleased to meet you, WordBomb. Excellent work.
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sat 3rd April 2010, 11:41am)  QUOTE(Abd @ Sat 3rd April 2010, 10:29am)  Looks to me like Gary Weiss just edited, five days ago, Naked short selling. diff.. Geolocates to Glenside, Pennsylvania. Yep. Geez he must be getting pretty desperate. Probably a throwaway Starbuck's hotspot IP. Now this is interesting...that IP does not map to Pennsylvania, but Manhattan, and is clearly Weiss (most of his look like 151.202.x.x or 70.23.x.x). He seems to unplug his modem nightly, so his home IPs are highly dynamic, but almost always within that range. What's fascinating about this IP, however, is that it happens to be the same one he was assigned when he accidentally edited without being logged in nearly four years ago...just as I was beginning to put the pieces together on Weiss as Mantanmoreland. Looking at the edit history, you can see that IP edited the article on Gary Weiss and added references to him to a pair of other articles. By the way, I've not read all the other new posts on this thread yet. I sure hope I'm not simply restating something very obvious by now. If so, please don't holler at me.
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| Milton Roe |
Mon 5th April 2010, 7:04pm
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QUOTE(WordBomb @ Mon 5th April 2010, 12:01pm)  QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sat 3rd April 2010, 11:41am)  QUOTE(Abd @ Sat 3rd April 2010, 10:29am)  Looks to me like Gary Weiss just edited, five days ago, Naked short selling. diff.. Geolocates to Glenside, Pennsylvania. Yep. Geez he must be getting pretty desperate. Probably a throwaway Starbuck's hotspot IP. Now this is interesting...that IP does not map to Pennsylvania, but Manhattan, and is clearly Weiss (most of his look like 151.202.x.x or 70.23.x.x). He seems to unplug his modem nightly, so his home IPs are highly dynamic, but almost always within that range. So instead of I.P. Freely, he's I.P. Nightly. Childishly, MR
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Put him out of his misery and start an AFD on his... Sun 28th February 2010, 9:40am  CharlotteWebb
Pfft. That helped Cla's adminship get deraile... Sun 28th February 2010, 10:02am The Adversary
I'm told that all the recent tinkering with t... Sun 28th February 2010, 8:38pm   Milton Roe
[quote name='Abd' post='229983' date='Sat 3rd Ap... Fri 9th April 2010, 10:15pm    EricBarbour [i]Whose sock is this,
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On ArbCom... Sat 10th April 2010, 8:57am Somey Added text by Weiss in bold.
The added text is d... Mon 5th April 2010, 6:05pm  Abd [quote name='Abd' post='229983' date='Sat 3rd Apri... Mon 5th April 2010, 11:53pm   WordBomb WordBomb, you are an expert on this topic, by reas... Tue 6th April 2010, 1:41am    CharlotteWebb
Thanks, but I cheated, slightly. Looking at it, I... Tue 6th April 2010, 2:55am Abd I was asked to provide the URL of the blog post th... Sat 3rd April 2010, 9:31pm Jon Awbrey The Education — Or Not — of Wiki-Pollyanna
Yo... Sat 3rd April 2010, 9:36pm Abd The Education — Or Not — of Wiki-PollyannaYou ... Sat 3rd April 2010, 10:03pm  Jon Awbrey
[quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='229996' date='Sat ... Sun 4th April 2010, 12:28am   Milton Roe
[quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='229996' date='Sat... Sun 4th April 2010, 12:36am    Abd It's actually not that easy to figure out. Jim... Sun 4th April 2010, 2:29am     Jon Awbrey
Sure, there's always a next question —
Li... Sun 4th April 2010, 2:42am   Abd Next Question —
[b]Who wants it that way?
You... Sun 4th April 2010, 2:09am    Jon Awbrey
Next Question —
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Neither the account nor the IPs mentioned in that... Mon 5th April 2010, 7:55pm   CharlotteWebb
Neither the account nor the IPs mentioned in tha... Mon 5th April 2010, 10:35pm    WordBomb
[quote name='Milton Roe' post='230217' date='Mon ... Mon 5th April 2010, 11:09pm   thekohser
Neither the account nor the IPs mentioned in tha... Tue 6th April 2010, 2:40am  GoRight
JGZ is among that startlingly commonplace breed o... Tue 6th April 2010, 1:57am Jon Awbrey O, I C, you're still stuck on the individual m... Sun 4th April 2010, 12:38am Moulton If institutions have learning curves, then they ne... Sun 4th April 2010, 2:30am Abd If institutions have learning curves, then they ne... Sun 4th April 2010, 4:41am  Moulton If institutions have learning curves, then they ne... Sun 4th April 2010, 4:35pm Milton Roe
If institutions have learning curves, then they n... Sun 4th April 2010, 6:16pm  Moulton If institutions have learning curves, then they ne... Mon 5th April 2010, 6:18pm Abd Gary Weiss is still putting puffery into his artic... Sun 4th April 2010, 4:20am The Adversary Off protection, Bagley reverted to remove the stuf... Sun 4th April 2010, 4:31pm The Adversary If anyone wants to find out which article Matan ha... Sun 4th April 2010, 6:16pm gomi [Modnote: The posts on Martin Luther have been mov... Mon 5th April 2010, 5:26pm Floydsvoid Dammit Jim, I'm a programmer not an accountant... Tue 6th April 2010, 1:25am WordBomb
Dammit Jim, I'm a programmer not an accountan... Tue 6th April 2010, 3:01am  Cla68
All this is in my book, by the way...which better... Tue 6th April 2010, 4:21am   WordBomb [quote name='WordBomb' post='230278' date='Tue 6th... Tue 6th April 2010, 5:16am    EricBarbour [url=http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/A... Tue 6th April 2010, 10:08am    Cla68
[quote name='WordBomb' post='230278' date='Tue 6t... Wed 7th April 2010, 11:39pm     written by he who wrote it
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I can't wait to see how Weiss... Fri 9th April 2010, 12:40am      The Adversary
-- will protect the page, perhaps toss out a few... Fri 9th April 2010, 3:19am    Piperdown
I have PLENTY on this subject. In fact, it compri... Tue 20th April 2010, 12:56am  Floydsvoid
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