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post Fri 26th February 2010, 4:06am
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I'm told that all the recent tinkering with the article autobiography on Gary Weiss has put Weiss himself in a strange place, psychologically. He -- as Mantanmoreland -- has been begging many former allies for intervention and even asked ArbCom -- as Stetsonharry -- to be unbanned.

Of course, Stetsonharry was shown the door, but not before expressing his deep, DEEP, red-faced, vein-bulging, scowling disappointment.

Apparently it was Huldra's inspired addition of the Wikipuffery category that really set him off.

If had a devious side, it might suggest that just a little more improvement of the article (and it could certainly use more than a little improving) would yield some really interesting Weissian fireworks.
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post Sat 3rd April 2010, 5:29pm
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It's still happening. I was presented by email with a link to WordBomb's account of the whole affair, introducing me to the financial wizardry of NSS. I had previously paid little attention to this, just noticing the Mantanmoreland/Samiharris arbitration for its use of meticulously researched statistical evidence, never realizing that this was all necessary because massive and more direct evidence, surely known to Jimbo et al, provided by WordBomb, was suppressed under various excuses. (Whereas actually illegal evidence was cheerfully used in the EEML case.)

Realizing that the Wikipedia story might be much darker than the AGF I'd been able to sustain, on the theory that setting up processes for mass consensus (very different from mob rule) was not well-understood, and that the chaos that is Wikipedia was, then, simply natural, I've started to look from a new perspective. That AGF is now disintegrating. The chaos is actively being maintained, because it's far easier to manage and control, where control is "important." Community processes that might eventually lead to broad consensus process were crushed, many times.

Looks to me like Gary Weiss just edited, five days ago, Naked short selling. diff..

IP contributions showing multiple proximity to Mantanmoreland (Gary Weiss) establishing substantial presumption.

Ban violation. But that's a technicality, what about the substance? Added text by Weiss in bold.

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There has been speculation that naked short selling played a role in driving Lehman Brothers into bankruptcy, but a bankruptcy trustee report on Lehman proved the reports to be wrong.
[reference:]"Don't Blame Shorts for Lehman Demise," by Rachel Beck, Associated Press, March 19, 2010 "Short sellers didn't bring down Lehman; company squashed itself through risk."

The added text is deceptive, not confirmed by source. The source is referring to short selling, not naked short selling. Short selling is quite legitimate. Naked short selling amplifies the effect of short selling, with practically no limit. The trustee report is not cited as addressing naked short selling at all. The edit is blatant POV-pushing, as I immediately saw before looking at the source, because of the telltale word "proved."

Quack!

I'd revert the edit, and I'm under no ban to prevent me, except that my friends at ArbComm have, shall we say, "suggested" that I avoid all controversy. Sorry, friends, but I see blatant disregard of NPOV policy all the time, I'd have to stop looking at Wikipedia and what's related, entirely, and it's entirely too frustrating to see stuff clearly that is damaging the project and say nothing.

I have no prior involvement here at all, but, having read the devastatingly deep research done by WordBomb, I do now have a POV, pending any kind of refutation based on, er, evidence. Pleased to meet you, WordBomb. Excellent work.
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post Sat 3rd April 2010, 5:41pm
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QUOTE(Abd @ Sat 3rd April 2010, 10:29am) *

Looks to me like Gary Weiss just edited, five days ago, Naked short selling. diff..

Geolocates to Glenside, Pennsylvania. Yep. Geez he must be getting pretty desperate. Probably a throwaway Starbuck's hotspot IP.
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post Mon 5th April 2010, 7:01pm
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sat 3rd April 2010, 11:41am) *

QUOTE(Abd @ Sat 3rd April 2010, 10:29am) *

Looks to me like Gary Weiss just edited, five days ago, Naked short selling. diff..

Geolocates to Glenside, Pennsylvania. Yep. Geez he must be getting pretty desperate. Probably a throwaway Starbuck's hotspot IP.
Now this is interesting...that IP does not map to Pennsylvania, but Manhattan, and is clearly Weiss (most of his look like 151.202.x.x or 70.23.x.x). He seems to unplug his modem nightly, so his home IPs are highly dynamic, but almost always within that range. What's fascinating about this IP, however, is that it happens to be the same one he was assigned when he accidentally edited without being logged in nearly four years ago...just as I was beginning to put the pieces together on Weiss as Mantanmoreland.
Looking at the edit history, you can see that IP edited the article on Gary Weiss and added references to him to a pair of other articles.

By the way, I've not read all the other new posts on this thread yet. I sure hope I'm not simply restating something very obvious by now. If so, please don't holler at me.
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QUOTE(WordBomb @ Mon 5th April 2010, 12:01pm) *

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sat 3rd April 2010, 11:41am) *

QUOTE(Abd @ Sat 3rd April 2010, 10:29am) *

Looks to me like Gary Weiss just edited, five days ago, Naked short selling. diff..

Geolocates to Glenside, Pennsylvania. Yep. Geez he must be getting pretty desperate. Probably a throwaway Starbuck's hotspot IP.
Now this is interesting...that IP does not map to Pennsylvania, but Manhattan, and is clearly Weiss (most of his look like 151.202.x.x or 70.23.x.x). He seems to unplug his modem nightly, so his home IPs are highly dynamic, but almost always within that range.

So instead of I.P. Freely, he's I.P. Nightly. smile.gif

Childishly,

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WordBomb   Gary Weiss on the verge of a nervous breakdown   Fri 26th February 2010, 4:06am
Alison   I'm told that all the recent tinkering with t...   Fri 26th February 2010, 4:13am
WordBomb   [quote name='WordBomb' post='223546' date='Thu 25...   Fri 26th February 2010, 4:31am
One   Crap. That would be worse than asking the ex-girl...   Fri 26th February 2010, 4:35am
Herschelkrustofsky   :popcorn: The downside of being really successful...   Fri 26th February 2010, 4:31am
Mr. Mystery   I've never understood MONGO's relationship...   Fri 26th February 2010, 4:48am
RDH(Ghost In The Machine)   I've never understood MONGO's relationshi...   Fri 26th February 2010, 10:30pm
Piperdown   Gawy's prolly peeved that Word-B is now being ...   Fri 26th February 2010, 10:11pm
Cla68   It might be dawning on Weiss that he has lost cont...   Fri 26th February 2010, 10:33pm
taiwopanfob   It might be dawning on Weiss that he has lost cont...   Sat 27th February 2010, 1:53pm
Piperdown   Only Gary Weiss would hop back on the "Smear ...   Fri 26th February 2010, 10:33pm
Heat   Put him out of his misery and start an AFD on his ...   Sat 27th February 2010, 9:07pm
Mr. Mystery   Put him out of his misery and start an AFD on his...   Sun 28th February 2010, 9:40am
CharlotteWebb   Pfft. That helped Cla's adminship get deraile...   Sun 28th February 2010, 10:02am
The Adversary   I'm told that all the recent tinkering with t...   Sun 28th February 2010, 8:38pm
Abd   It's still happening. I was presented by email...   Sat 3rd April 2010, 5:29pm
Milton Roe   [quote name='Abd' post='229983' date='Sat 3rd Ap...   Fri 9th April 2010, 10:15pm
EricBarbour   [i]Whose sock is this, Whose ban indef, On ArbCom...   Sat 10th April 2010, 8:57am
Somey   Added text by Weiss in bold. The added text is d...   Mon 5th April 2010, 6:05pm
Abd   [quote name='Abd' post='229983' date='Sat 3rd Apri...   Mon 5th April 2010, 11:53pm
WordBomb   WordBomb, you are an expert on this topic, by reas...   Tue 6th April 2010, 1:41am
CharlotteWebb   Thanks, but I cheated, slightly. Looking at it, I...   Tue 6th April 2010, 2:55am
Abd   I was asked to provide the URL of the blog post th...   Sat 3rd April 2010, 9:31pm
Jon Awbrey   The Education — Or Not — of Wiki-Pollyanna Yo...   Sat 3rd April 2010, 9:36pm
Abd   The Education — Or Not — of Wiki-PollyannaYou ...   Sat 3rd April 2010, 10:03pm
Jon Awbrey   [quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='229996' date='Sat ...   Sun 4th April 2010, 12:28am
Milton Roe   [quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='229996' date='Sat...   Sun 4th April 2010, 12:36am
Abd   It's actually not that easy to figure out. Jim...   Sun 4th April 2010, 2:29am
Jon Awbrey   Sure, there's always a next question — Li...   Sun 4th April 2010, 2:42am
Abd   Next Question — [b]Who wants it that way? You...   Sun 4th April 2010, 2:09am
Jon Awbrey   Next Question — [b]Who wants it that way? Yo...   Sun 4th April 2010, 2:22am
Abd   There has been no clean-up. I noticed JzG's in...   Sun 4th April 2010, 12:18am
WordBomb   Wow. There's been a lot of action on this thre...   Mon 5th April 2010, 7:23pm
Milton Roe   Neither the account nor the IPs mentioned in that...   Mon 5th April 2010, 7:55pm
CharlotteWebb   Neither the account nor the IPs mentioned in tha...   Mon 5th April 2010, 10:35pm
WordBomb   [quote name='Milton Roe' post='230217' date='Mon ...   Mon 5th April 2010, 11:09pm
thekohser   Neither the account nor the IPs mentioned in tha...   Tue 6th April 2010, 2:40am
GoRight   JGZ is among that startlingly commonplace breed o...   Tue 6th April 2010, 1:57am
Jon Awbrey   O, I C, you're still stuck on the individual m...   Sun 4th April 2010, 12:38am
Moulton   If institutions have learning curves, then they ne...   Sun 4th April 2010, 2:30am
Abd   If institutions have learning curves, then they ne...   Sun 4th April 2010, 4:41am
Moulton   If institutions have learning curves, then they ne...   Sun 4th April 2010, 4:35pm
Milton Roe   If institutions have learning curves, then they n...   Sun 4th April 2010, 6:16pm
Moulton   If institutions have learning curves, then they ne...   Mon 5th April 2010, 6:18pm
Abd   Gary Weiss is still putting puffery into his artic...   Sun 4th April 2010, 4:20am
The Adversary   Off protection, Bagley reverted to remove the stuf...   Sun 4th April 2010, 4:31pm
The Adversary   If anyone wants to find out which article Matan ha...   Sun 4th April 2010, 6:16pm
gomi   [Modnote: The posts on Martin Luther have been mov...   Mon 5th April 2010, 5:26pm
Floydsvoid   Dammit Jim, I'm a programmer not an accountant...   Tue 6th April 2010, 1:25am
WordBomb   Dammit Jim, I'm a programmer not an accountan...   Tue 6th April 2010, 3:01am
Cla68   All this is in my book, by the way...which better...   Tue 6th April 2010, 4:21am
WordBomb   [quote name='WordBomb' post='230278' date='Tue 6th...   Tue 6th April 2010, 5:16am
EricBarbour   [url=http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/A...   Tue 6th April 2010, 10:08am
Cla68   [quote name='WordBomb' post='230278' date='Tue 6t...   Wed 7th April 2010, 11:39pm
written by he who wrote it   <snip> I can't wait to see how Weiss...   Fri 9th April 2010, 12:40am
The Adversary   -- will protect the page, perhaps toss out a few...   Fri 9th April 2010, 3:19am
Piperdown   I have PLENTY on this subject. In fact, it compri...   Tue 20th April 2010, 12:56am
Floydsvoid   Here's how it works: the manipulator buys ......   Thu 8th April 2010, 12:35am
Piperdown   Oh, and by the by, Gary surfaces with his old frie...   Tue 20th April 2010, 1:24am


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