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MZMcBride
post Wed 10th March 2010, 12:25am
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I thought this was interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=348854665

The list was generated last month. It's looking at Levenshtein distances and ratios. The selected values for this specific list are rather arbitrary and there are some clear false positives. Still, interesting.
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QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Tue 9th March 2010, 4:25pm) *

I thought this was interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=348854665

The list was generated last month. It's looking at Levenshtein distances and ratios. The selected values for this specific list are rather arbitrary and there are some clear false positives. Still, interesting.

What are you hoping to do with this list, out of curiosity? I went through and PROD'd a couple and deleted one then I realized just how enormous it is. Sure they probably need a lot of work and double checking, but so do a lot of blps. unhappy.gif
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post Wed 10th March 2010, 7:40am
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QUOTE(Killiondude @ Wed 10th March 2010, 2:29am) *

What are you hoping to do with this list, out of curiosity? I went through and PROD'd a couple and deleted one then I realized just how enormous it is. Sure they probably need a lot of work and double checking, but so do a lot of blps. unhappy.gif

It's a rudimentary method of detecting potential conflicts of interest. I have no real intentions for the list.
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post Wed 10th March 2010, 8:24am
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QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Wed 10th March 2010, 8:40am) *

QUOTE(Killiondude @ Wed 10th March 2010, 2:29am) *

What are you hoping to do with this list, out of curiosity? I went through and PROD'd a couple and deleted one then I realized just how enormous it is. Sure they probably need a lot of work and double checking, but so do a lot of blps. unhappy.gif

It's a rudimentary method of detecting potential conflicts of interest. I have no real intentions for the list.


It's also a mean to find articles that need to be "rescued". I just sourced Lyn_Hancock. (#12 in that list) Thanks for doing the list, man.
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Great list. Just goes to show you how many editors will need to buy my e-book, "Your Business and Wikipedia"!
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QUOTE(Enric_Naval @ Wed 10th March 2010, 8:24am) *
It's also a mean to find articles that need to be "rescued". I just sourced Lyn_Hancock. (#12 in that list) Thanks for doing the list, man.


Ultimately a waste of time: your sources prove beyond a shadow of a doubt Lyn Hancock is completely non-notable.

Perusing a few of them at random, it seems most of these self-created, self-edited articles suffer from the same problem. Unsourced, or if sourced, non-notable.

But nooooooooo, we can't erase the Precious Content, no matter how useless it may be! So, Enric Naval, one down and one thousand, six huncred and eighty to go!
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QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Wed 10th March 2010, 12:25am) *

I thought this was interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=348854665

The list was generated last month. It's looking at Levenshtein distances and ratios. The selected values for this specific list are rather arbitrary and there are some clear false positives. Still, interesting.

Very nice. Is this more or less what COIbot does, except limited to articles identified as BLPs?
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QUOTE(taiwopanfob @ Wed 10th March 2010, 2:34pm) *

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So, Enric Naval, one down and one thousand, six huncred and eighty to go!


Let's be optimistic here: the bottle is full in almost a thousandth part. biggrin.gif
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post Wed 10th March 2010, 4:01pm
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Wed 10th March 2010, 9:29am) *

QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Wed 10th March 2010, 12:25am) *

I thought this was interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=348854665

The list was generated last month. It's looking at Levenshtein distances and ratios. The selected values for this specific list are rather arbitrary and there are some clear false positives. Still, interesting.

Very nice. Is this more or less what COIbot does, except limited to articles identified as BLPs?

Yep, looks pretty similar, though as you note, the list I made is only limited to pages in "Category:Living people". It's also only looking at page creators, not any subsequent edits, unlike what COIbot appears to be doing. This is one of the many reasons for a lot of false negatives in the list I generated, though I think it also helps substantially reduce false positives. RussBot being caught editing "Rudebox" in the COIbot list made me smile. smile.gif
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This is a great list. Thank you for creating it.

I clicked one at random and applied PROD. Many to follow, I'm sure.
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QUOTE(One @ Wed 10th March 2010, 1:05pm) *

This is a great list. Thank you for creating it.

I clicked one at random and applied PROD. Many to follow, I'm sure.


Busy, busy, busy. All in service to the big, open encyclopedia. Those who don't help are not patriotic. Three cheers for Wikipedians!
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This list identifies a fraction of the biographies that are started by the subject, a friend or a family member because the creator chose to use an account name that is similar to the article subject. Those accounts may have a "conflict of interest" as the phrase is defined by wikipedians but it would seem they are declaring that "COI" by their choice of user names. What is more disturbing are those users who do not disclose their conflicts and are actively deceptive about them.

Take for example Ash (T-C-L-K-R-D) , who likes to create and expand biographies of minor pornographic actors. On his user page he declares "I am not aware of any conflict of interest with regard to the articles I edit". This statement is demonstrably false. Ashley van Haeften helps maintain the database of Projet Volterra. Ashley wrote the wikipedia article on his husband Simon Corcoran (T-H-L-K-D), who is a fellow of Projet Volterra. He also wrote the articles on some of his other colleagues.
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post Thu 11th March 2010, 9:19pm
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QUOTE(tarantino @ Thu 11th March 2010, 12:12am) *
Take for example Ash (T-C-L-K-R-D) , who likes to create and expand biographies of minor pornographic actors. On his user page he declares "I am not aware of any conflict of interest with regard to the articles I edit"...

You'd think he wouldn't do so much work on porn actors, given the fact that he makes no secret of his identity... Though I suppose they'll probably delete that photo now that we've pointed it out to them. (I'm guessing he's also this guy? unsure.gif )
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I tried to stay away from the Ottava rima page. It was just so difficult.
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post Tue 29th November 2011, 9:24pm
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QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 11th March 2010, 4:19pm) *

QUOTE(tarantino @ Thu 11th March 2010, 12:12am) *
Take for example Ash (T-C-L-K-R-D) , who likes to create and expand biographies of minor pornographic actors. On his user page he declares "I am not aware of any conflict of interest with regard to the articles I edit"...

You'd think he wouldn't do so much work on porn actors, given the fact that he makes no secret of his identity... Though I suppose they'll probably delete that photo now that we've pointed it out to them. (I'm guessing he's also this guy? unsure.gif )


Weird how this all came back together in November 2011, isn't it?
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post Wed 30th November 2011, 1:09am
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QUOTE(tarantino @ Thu 11th March 2010, 6:12am) *

This list identifies a fraction of the biographies that are started by the subject, a friend or a family member because the creator chose to use an account name that is similar to the article subject. Those accounts may have a "conflict of interest" as the phrase is defined by wikipedians but it would seem they are declaring that "COI" by their choice of user names. What is more disturbing are those users who do not disclose their conflicts and are actively deceptive about them.

Take for example Ash (T-C-L-K-R-D) , who likes to create and expand biographies of minor pornographic actors. On his user page he declares "I am not aware of any conflict of interest with regard to the articles I edit". This statement is demonstrably false. Ashley van Haeften helps maintain the database of Projet Volterra. Ashley wrote the wikipedia article on his husband Simon Corcoran (T-H-L-K-D), who is a fellow of Projet Volterra. He also wrote the articles on some of his other colleagues.


By coincidence, Project Volterra, in the person of one Simon Corcoran, supplied a quote for The Guardian's article on how useful Wikipedia is to academics.
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post Wed 30th November 2011, 1:49am
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QUOTE(Eppur si muove @ Tue 29th November 2011, 8:09pm) *

By coincidence, Project Volterra, in the person of one Simon Corcoran, supplied a quote for The Guardian's article on how useful Wikipedia is to academics.


And from the Guardian article:
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The idea that the group would spend a lot of time just generally editing pages is "not realistic", he says, but with a specific need it made sense.


In other words, they put their own purposes for editing ahead of the "good of the project" overall. This is exactly the sort of conflicted editing that Jimmy Wales has vehemently opposed.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 30th November 2011, 1:49am) *

QUOTE(Eppur si muove @ Tue 29th November 2011, 8:09pm) *

By coincidence, Project Volterra, in the person of one Simon Corcoran, supplied a quote for The Guardian's article on how useful Wikipedia is to academics.


And from the Guardian article:
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The idea that the group would spend a lot of time just generally editing pages is "not realistic", he says, but with a specific need it made sense.


In other words, they put their own purposes for editing ahead of the "good of the project" overall. This is exactly the sort of conflicted editing that Jimmy Wales has vehemently opposed.


And the specific need involved creating Codex Gregorianus (T-H-L-K-D) where we are told "On 26 January 2010, Simon Corcoran and Benet Salway at University College London announced that they had discovered seventeen fragments of what they believed to be the original version of the code". The main editors are Ash and Benet Salway (T-C-L-K-R-D) . No conflict of interest there.

Is this going into your codex, Greg?

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QUOTE(Eppur si muove @ Wed 30th November 2011, 3:19am) *

Is this going into your codex, Greg?


Oh the irony :

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[edit] Welcome!
Some cookies to welcome you! Face-smile.svg

Welcome to Wikipedia, Benet Salway! I am Ash and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or by typing {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Introduction
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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Oh yeah, I almost forgot, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome!

Ash (talk) 10:27, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


My, that's awfully cozy to welcome your husband's colleague to Wikipedia....I suppose that Mr Salway was happy that Ash wrote his biography too...

Here they all are on the bottom of this page.

(Ash is confined to the footnotes....)

Ash also seems to have massaged the Michael Crawford (historian) article pretty well. The fourth guy doesn't have a Wikipedia article yet...
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 30th November 2011, 4:29am) *

QUOTE(Eppur si muove @ Wed 30th November 2011, 3:19am) *

Is this going into your codex, Greg?


Oh the irony :

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[edit] Welcome!
Some cookies to welcome you! Face-smile.svg

Welcome to Wikipedia, Benet Salway! I am Ash and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or by typing {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Introduction
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How to edit a page
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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Oh yeah, I almost forgot, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome!

Ash (talk) 10:27, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


My, that's awfully cozy to welcome your husband's colleague to Wikipedia....I suppose that Mr Salway was happy that Ash wrote his biography too...

Here they all are on the bottom of this page.

(Ash is confined to the footnotes....)

Ash also seems to have massaged the Michael Crawford (historian) article pretty well. The fourth guy doesn't have a Wikipedia article yet...


So do you think anyone was paid for any of these edits?
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