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Wikipedia Distributing Child Porn, Co-Founder Tells FBI
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The parent company of Wikipedia is knowingly distributing child pornography, the co-founder of the online encyclopedia says...

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post Tue 27th April 2010, 10:21pm
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We have MSM pay dirt, with Moeller's greasy smile and pro-pedophile quote predominately featured.
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post Tue 27th April 2010, 10:35pm
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Tue 27th April 2010, 3:21pm) *

We have MSM pay dirt, with Moeller's greasy smile and pro-pedophile quote predominately featured.

WOW! I just liked Foxnews there for a second. Are the nerds at CERN firing up their atom mill again?
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post Wed 28th April 2010, 9:04am
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... and speaking of fired-up nerds...

lol

It's as stunningly idiotic as it is inevitable.
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post Wed 28th April 2010, 9:45am
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QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Wed 28th April 2010, 7:04pm) *

... and speaking of fired-up nerds...

lol

It's as stunningly idiotic as it is inevitable.


*LOL* Hive mind at work. It's just a matter of time when Dr. Sanger will get blocked. He's annoyed a fair few people on wikipeedia.
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post Wed 28th April 2010, 10:00am
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The bit about routinely blocking sincere critics (on specious and trumped up charges) is quite telling, ain't it?

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Blocking is commonly used on wikipedia to silence critics, so nothing new to see here. Malleus Fatuorum 01:16, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
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post Wed 28th April 2010, 1:20pm
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An unsurprisingly bad report from Fox News there, full of contradictions and inaccuracies. The foundation had this to say.
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post Wed 28th April 2010, 1:28pm
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QUOTE(Theanima @ Wed 28th April 2010, 9:20am) *

An unsurprisingly bad report from Fox News there, full of contradictions and inaccuracies. The foundation had this to say.


“a deliberate misrepresentation of reality” (ADMOR)™

The Wikimedia Foundation must defend its patent on that.

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post Wed 28th April 2010, 1:54pm
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QUOTE(Theanima @ Wed 28th April 2010, 8:20am) *
An unsurprisingly bad report from Fox News there, full of contradictions and inaccuracies.
[citation needed] There are minor inaccuracies (spelling errors, and the like) but I didn't see any glaring errors. Please point out the "contradictions and inaccuracies".
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post Wed 28th April 2010, 1:56pm
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QUOTE(Theanima @ Wed 28th April 2010, 1:20pm) *

An unsurprisingly bad report from Fox News there, full of contradictions and inaccuracies. The foundation had this to say.

And Moeller himself has a blog post about this now. Short version: "I have been misunderstood and I'm suing you guys."
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post Wed 28th April 2010, 1:58pm
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The story repeats serious falsehoods and offers information taken grossly out of context, resulting in what amounts to a deliberate misrepresentation of reality.

I suppose the same could be said about many of the BLPs found on Wikipedia (including several I personally worked to correct).
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post Wed 28th April 2010, 2:04pm
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QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Wed 28th April 2010, 10:04am) *

... and speaking of fired-up nerds...

lol

It's as stunningly idiotic as it is inevitable.


Beeblebrox. Big slap with a sh1t-filled stocking comes to mind.
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post Wed 28th April 2010, 2:07pm
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 28th April 2010, 2:54pm) *

QUOTE(Theanima @ Wed 28th April 2010, 8:20am) *
An unsurprisingly bad report from Fox News there, full of contradictions and inaccuracies.
[citation needed] There are minor inaccuracies (spelling errors, and the like) but I didn't see any glaring errors. Please point out the "contradictions and inaccuracies".


E.g. "The parent company of Wikipedia is knowingly distributing child pornography" then "Wikimedia has quite a bit of pornography on it and they had no idea." How can they "knowingly distribute" something they have no idea they have?
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post Wed 28th April 2010, 2:12pm
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Erik Moeller has posted a lengthy response on his personal blog, which is curiously entitled, Intelligent Designs.

I suppose when it comes to feeling defamed, Erik can anticipate some empathy from those who similarly felt defamed by their scandalous treatment at the hands of ethically challenged Wikipedians.
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post Wed 28th April 2010, 3:22pm
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Wed 28th April 2010, 8:12am) *

Erik Moeller has posted a lengthy response on his personal blog, which is curiously entitled, Intelligent Designs.

I suppose when it comes to feeling defamed, Erik can anticipate some empathy from those who similarly felt defamed by their scandalous treatment at the hands of ethically challenged Wikipedians.


Moeller is distancing himself from his earlier statements and spinning them to be more acceptable to normal society. He now says that he only meant to not condemn near-same-age statutory rape type of sex between young adults and their almost adult sexual partners. It is a good sign that he is running from his past unacceptable statements. Yet he still uses weasel words. He is now against "sexual violence against children" which leaves one to wonder if he is only talking about adult/child sex with additional use of violence or the adult/child sex as being a form violence itself.
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post Wed 28th April 2010, 3:58pm
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I suspect that Moeller will only ever have one employer willing to hire him and pay him more than $80K per year, and that is the Wikimedia Foundation.
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post Wed 28th April 2010, 3:58pm
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Wed 28th April 2010, 4:22pm) *

QUOTE(Moulton @ Wed 28th April 2010, 8:12am) *

Erik Moeller has posted a lengthy response on his personal blog, which is curiously entitled, Intelligent Designs.

I suppose when it comes to feeling defamed, Erik can anticipate some empathy from those who similarly felt defamed by their scandalous treatment at the hands of ethically challenged Wikipedians.


Moeller is distancing himself from his earlier statements and spinning them to be more acceptable to normal society. He now says that he only meant to not condemn near-same-age statutory rape type of sex between young adults and their almost adult sexual partners. It is a good sign that he is running from his past unacceptable statements. Yet he still uses weasel words. He is now against "sexual violence against children" which leaves one to wonder if he is only talking about adult/child sex with additional use of violence or the adult/child sex as being a form violence itself.

Yes, directly pointing to his "misrepresented response" is not particularly wise, because he does present a number of ideas which are, shall we say, challenging, including the idea that it is fine for pre-teens to have sex and that he can see no problem with that.

Actually, I notice that we have, even in 2001, evidence of an emergent Wikipedian mindset:

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post Wed 28th April 2010, 4:11pm
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QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Wed 28th April 2010, 4:58pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Wed 28th April 2010, 4:22pm) *

QUOTE(Moulton @ Wed 28th April 2010, 8:12am) *

Erik Moeller has posted a lengthy response on his personal blog, which is curiously entitled, Intelligent Designs.

I suppose when it comes to feeling defamed, Erik can anticipate some empathy from those who similarly felt defamed by their scandalous treatment at the hands of ethically challenged Wikipedians.


Moeller is distancing himself from his earlier statements and spinning them to be more acceptable to normal society. He now says that he only meant to not condemn near-same-age statutory rape type of sex between young adults and their almost adult sexual partners. It is a good sign that he is running from his past unacceptable statements. Yet he still uses weasel words. He is now against "sexual violence against children" which leaves one to wonder if he is only talking about adult/child sex with additional use of violence or the adult/child sex as being a form violence itself.

Yes, directly pointing to his "misrepresented response" is not particularly wise, because he does present a number of ideas which are, shall we say, challenging, including the idea that it is fine for pre-teens to have sex and that he can see no problem with that.

Actually, I notice that we have, even in 2001, evidence of an emergent Wikipedian mindset:

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Do we have a link to the original piece he wrote. Is he claiming that it was doctored or altered in some way? Was it doctored or altered in some way? I am confused.
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post Wed 28th April 2010, 4:24pm
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Wed 28th April 2010, 5:11pm) *

Do we have a link to the original piece he wrote. Is he claiming that it was doctored or altered in some way? Was it doctored or altered in some way? I am confused.

Original article
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I don't believe he is claiming that there is any issue with the original articles' form, just that other people have misrepresented what they say. Again, this is WikiWorld, so why should that be a surprise?
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post Wed 28th April 2010, 4:30pm
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QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Wed 28th April 2010, 5:24pm) *

QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Wed 28th April 2010, 5:11pm) *

Do we have a link to the original piece he wrote. Is he claiming that it was doctored or altered in some way? Was it doctored or altered in some way? I am confused.

Original article
His response to comments

I don't believe he is claiming that there is any issue with the original articles' form, just that other people have misrepresented what they say. Again, this is WikiWorld, so why should that be a surprise?


The main theme of the article and the response is that sexual between young children (but not between adults and young children) is OK. Is that the gist?
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