CheckUser and Oversight elections Options

[Kevin]

So, how is the voting going?

Who cares?

Everyone reading here, I assume.

[Rick]

Daniel Brandt, could you please add the successful candidates to your Hivemind (and also add Tiptoety regardless of whether he wins)? You haven't updated that thing in a long time.

[Theanima]

Daniel Brandt, could you please add the successful candidates to your Hivemind (and also add Tiptoety regardless of whether he wins)?

Why are you posting private messages here? What is with your obsession with Tiptoety?

You haven't updated that thing in a long time.

Good.

[Rick]

What is with your obsession with Tiptoety?

How can it be an "obsession" when I don't even like the guy? Also, why do you think that not updating Hivemind is a good thing? It shows personal details of Wikipedia admins. As for the bit about posting private messages here, why do you think it is a private message? I *was* going to send it as a PM to Mr Brandt, but...

[Theanima]

What is with your obsession with Tiptoety?

How can it be an "obsession" when I don't even like the guy? Also, why do you think that not updating Hivemind is a good thing? It shows personal details of Wikipedia admins. As for the bit about posting private messages here, why do you think it is a private message? I *was* going to send it as a PM to Mr Brandt, but...

It is possible to have an obsession with somebody or something, even if you don't like the guy. For example, Thekohser has an obsession with Jimmy Wales, but obviously doesn't like him.

It's a good thing that Brandt keeps Hivemind out of date and inaccurate because we don't need more admins getting stalked and harassed because of it. See the related thread. Brandt doesn't always read Wikipedia Review.

This post has been edited by Theanima: Mon 24th May 2010, 2:19pm

[Moulton]

Perhaps the notion never occurred to you, but a lot of people get annoyed, stalked, or otherwise harrassed because of erroneous information in their BLPs. As I recall, one of the reasons Brandt created Hivemind in the first place was because WP admins couldn't be bothered to keep erroneous information out of WP BLPs.

[RDH(Ghost In The Machine)]

I can barely contain my excitement.

Damn secure polls have sucked most of the fun/drama out of the big elections.
Next to watching paint peel and Golf, nothing is more dull than orderly, uneventful elections.

[Rick]

Let's talk about the other candidates. JamesOfUr, for example, is doomed to fail, because 1) he became an admin just recently and 2) he has been an active user for less than a year. (He did register in November 2006, but he only made like six edits until August 2009.) MuZemike has also barely been a user for two years, and hasn't even been an admin for one year. So Amalthea is the only CheckUser candidate who has a decent chance of winning.

As for the Oversight candidates, well, I guess they all have good chances of winning.

What surprises me, though, is the lack of familiar users in the election. Heimstern Läufer, for example, as I said above, would make a great candidate, because he is also an admin on a non-Wikimedia wiki, as well as the forum for that wiki. X!/Soxred93 and JulianColton are also good users for the election, but unfortunately, they are both underage. PMDrive1061/Lucky 6.9 would also make a great candidate, because he frequently makes CU cases about the sockpuppeteer "MascotGuy" and has said in at least one case that he is sick of making cases and wants to "get CU privileges so [he] doesn't have to keep crying over [there]". But most of all, I'd like to also see candidates who have been users on EnWiki since its first three years.

This post has been edited by Rick: Wed 26th May 2010, 1:39pm

[Cock-up-over-conspiracy]

MuZemike has also barely been a user for two years, and hasn't even been an admin for one year.

MuZemike is a yet another typical Wikipedian repressive personality type with no ears (does not listen), a big ban hammer ... therefore he will definitely get the Super Powers!!!

A Napoleon complex by his own inference? ... he gets a potshot taken at him of being "an example of one clear Arabist, Islamist biased administrator” by an anonymous blog. I doubt it but it might be an interesting balance ... likes wrestling and Wii so I would say has all the right skills.

People Cannot Help Being Short
July 2, 2008 by muzemike

As a 5′ 4″ male adult, and it’s something I am not proud of.

I have been discriminated upon all my life. I cannot date women, participate in certain sports everyone else takes for granted like basketball or football, or be viewed favorably in a professional environment unlike my taller counterparts. I am often compared to despotic anti-Christ dictators such as Napoleon (5′ 6″), Josef Stalin (5′ 5″), Nikita Khrushchev (5′ 3″) and Kim Jong Il (5′ 3″). Short people like me have been the justification for genocide, like they have done in Rwanda and in Bosnia.

This is the life I live, which is a life in which I cannot enjoy basic things that others take for granted. There is no way for me to fly planes, become a politician or head of any company, even though I hypothetically be the most-qualified individual out there. Being short is not like being fat or being skinny or even being weak-willed. There is nothing that I can do to make myself taller and become complicit with everyone else in society. You can say it’s like being born black, hispanic, or Asian, even though I am white.

But I suppose all the tall people out there wouldn’t know that, since you people don’t have to deal with the bullshit I have to deal with. THAT’s why I’m not religious, anymore; because if God intended for everyone to be happy, He would have made everyone tall.

Mike ... don't do it.

Forget God, take down the blog, move to another country where the dames are shorter and you will get laid more often, and be happy. Do not fall into the habit of acting out your power fantasies as a slave laborer on the Porno-pedia please.

This post has been edited by Cock-up-over-conspiracy: Wed 26th May 2010, 4:56pm

[The Adversary]

MuZemike has also barely been a user for two years, and hasn't even been an admin for one year.

<snip>... he gets a potshot taken at him of being "an example of one clear Arabist, Islamist biased administrator” by an anonymous blog. I doubt it but it might be an interesting balance ... likes wrestling and Wii so I would say has all the right skills.

Yeah, well....FYI:that same anonymous blogger has me up as a Palestinian-Arab in Europe, part of the the "aggressive ‘Radical Arab-Islamic Lobby’ on wikipedia"

And I, who thought I was a 100% genuine troll

[EricBarbour]

MuZemike has also barely been a user for two years, and hasn't even been an admin for one year.

<snip>... he gets a potshot taken at him of being "an example of one clear Arabist, Islamist biased administrator” by an anonymous blog. I doubt it but it might be an interesting balance ... likes wrestling and Wii so I would say has all the right skills.

Yeah, well....FYI:that same anonymous blogger has me up as a Palestinian-Arab in Europe, part of the the "aggressive ‘Radical Arab-Islamic Lobby’ on wikipedia"

Charming blog. Let me guess....another angry Zionist editor offended at any attempt to make WP "neutral". With an angry blog that nobody reads.

Come to think of it, MuZemike is kind of a dick. He's a regular on SPI, where he helps to summarily ban people who may or may not actually be socks. I'm especially thinking of that General Tojo mess.

[Rick]

MuZemike has also barely been a user for two years, and hasn't even been an admin for one year.

<snip>... he gets a potshot taken at him of being "an example of one clear Arabist, Islamist biased administrator” by an anonymous blog. I doubt it but it might be an interesting balance ... likes wrestling and Wii so I would say has all the right skills.

Yeah, well....FYI:that same anonymous blogger has me up as a Palestinian-Arab in Europe, part of the the "aggressive ‘Radical Arab-Islamic Lobby’ on wikipedia"

Charming blog. Let me guess....another angry Zionist editor offended at any attempt to make WP "neutral". With an angry blog that nobody reads.

Come to think of it, MuZemike is kind of a dick. He's a regular on SPI, where he helps to summarily ban people who may or may not actually be socks. I'm especially thinking of that General Tojo mess.

LOL.

But anyway, we have just 12 hours before the election is over. Let's talk about other candidates, as well as the potential candidates I mentioned above.

[A Horse With No Name]

People Cannot Help Being Short
July 2, 2008 by muzemike

As a 5′ 4″ male adult, and it’s something I am not proud of.

I have been discriminated upon all my life. I cannot date women, participate in certain sports everyone else takes for granted like basketball or football, or be viewed favorably in a professional environment unlike my taller counterparts. I am often compared to despotic anti-Christ dictators such as Napoleon (5′ 6″), Josef Stalin (5′ 5″), Nikita Khrushchev (5′ 3″) and Kim Jong Il (5′ 3″). Short people like me have been the justification for genocide, like they have done in Rwanda and in Bosnia.

Is this sh*t a joke? Rwandan and Bosnia genocide was based on people being too short?

And who says shorter guys can't score babes? Hell, how many times was Mickey Rooney married?

[Milton Roe]

And who says shorter guys can't score babes? Hell, how many times was Mickey Rooney married?

I don't know if it counts how many times you're divorced. That's only a count of how many times some golddigger took you to the cleaners. However, Danny DeVito (married once and happily) is widely admired. Good for him.

Of course, having a crate of money and fame to stand atop, never hurt anybody. Even guys of average size.

[CharlotteWebb]

I am often compared to despotic anti-Christ dictators such as Napoleon (5′ 6″), Josef Stalin (5′ 5″), Nikita Khrushchev (5′ 3″) and Kim Jong Il (5′ 3″). Short people like me have been the justification for genocide, like they have done in Rwanda and in Bosnia.

Sounds a lot like Napoleon's soliloquy from 6:40 onward in this classic film clip.

[Eva Destruction]

Is this sh*t a joke? Rwandan and Bosnia genocide was based on people being too short?

Don't know he's got Bosnia from, but the Rwandan genocide was a pretty clear case of "tall tribe" v "short tribe". Wikipedia has a surprisingly good article on the physical differences between the ethnic groups of Rwanda and the various explanations put forward over the years to explain them.

[Ottava]

What is with your obsession with Tiptoety?

How can it be an "obsession" when I don't even like the guy?

If a hunter can stalk a deer, a guy who doesn't like someone else can easily do the same. Obsessions tend to be negative or end up with negative results.

[Kelly Martin]

PMDrive1061/Lucky 6.9 would also make a great candidate, because he frequently makes CU cases about the sockpuppeteer "MascotGuy" and has said in at least one case that he is sick of making cases and wants to "get CU privileges so [he] doesn't have to keep crying over [there]".

Speaking of Lucky 6.9: he sent me this email back in 2006:

Like a bad car wreck, I couldn't help but sneak a peek at good old Brainhell's user page. Both user and talk pages are pure evil aimed directly toward me. I'm now certain that I did the right thing by quitting Wikipedia. It's out of control.

I've saved the man the hassle of running me through the wringer thanks to your decision to unblock him. As you may have noticed, I deleted my user page as I wish nothing further to do with this project or any Wikimedia Foundation project and I have only logged on long enough to e-mail you to express my anger, shame and disappointment of having two years' work go up in smoke because of the bile of one person who seems to revel in the fact that he has utterly destroyed what I have worked so hard to build over a lousy deletion of a half-formed placeholder for an external link. Your decision to unblock him certainly didn't help.

In a way, he did me a favor by opening my eyes not only to literally billions of other sites but to the fact that I should direct my attention more towards my real life which, as of late, it taking a turn for the better and will require me undivided attention. I'm already posting more on other sites that are friendlier, less contentious and just plain nicer.

E-mailing that clown is useless and not worth the effort. He'll only post whatever I write on his talk page so lashing out will certainly do no good. I like to think that I am above such behavior. I won't lash out at you either, but I am bitterly and miserably disappointed in the outcome of this matter because of your decision.

I've e-mailed Jimmy Wales with a request for de-sysopping and deletion of my history. I'm glad to have contributed the articles and hope that they are of help, but I'd rather just disappear from this point forward. Angela Beesley and Danny Wool have expressed support but I haven't heard from either person regarding their decision...which at this point really doesn't matter to me.

Thanks for your time. Feel free to drop me an e-mail at any time.

Sincerely yours,
Ralph Squillace

A few months later he emailed Jimmy offering to return to Wikipedia in exchange for certain concessions from Wikipedia, mostly related to his ability to wage unrestricted warfare against Brainhell. He was told that he could have his tin badge back but not any of the "special concessions" he wanted; I don't recall whether he accepted that offer at the time, or came back later.

Seems like really high quality Wikipedia material.

[Rick]

Well, the voting is over!

I wonder who will win? I really hope Tyler doesn't win...

[Theanima]

Well, the voting is over!

I wonder who will win? I really hope Tyler doesn't win...

You don't say...